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Lei_Kuei
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posted March 13, 2006 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2006-03-02-gospel-of-judas_x.htm
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11655998/from/RL.4/

^^^This Guy says its a Dud!

You have probably heard of this allready!

But I was flicking through the news paper yesterday I an article about this Gospel that national geographic is gonna release soon that is set to cause an up roar within the catholic church as to the portrayal as Judas as more of a hero than the villain of the Jesus story the paper said!

Well its coming out soon anyways... Interesting stuff indeed


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fayte.m
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posted March 13, 2006 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with James M. Robinson's comments on it.
And..there were several others in those days....there is I believe a big mix up..confusing many men by the names of Judas..Jude...Judah and so forth.
Even the presumed writer of the Gospel of Thomas was known as Thomas JUDAS Didymus.
Now take that a step farther and read the Biblical accounts again...

QUOTE:
“He was thought to be insane by his own family and neighbors in ‘when his friends heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself…And the scribes said, He hath Beelzebub…’ (Mark 3:21-22 –The Greek existemi translated beside himself, actually means insane and witless), The Greek word ho para, translated friends, also means family. On another occasion, the crowd claims “…He hath a devil, and is mad…” (John 10:20). The Greek word mainomai translated mad, also means manic, raving, and insensate” (7)

>>>>>>So I submit..why would a man ..a wealthy man...sell out to people he was not in agreement with for a paltry 20 pieces of silver?
He would not.
But certain "concerned or worried" friends or family would. Insanity would mark him as an untouchable..not a good Jew. So any family or friends who followed the Jewish "laws" would be impelled to turn him in hoping to have him locked up "for his and their protection" especially during the Passover in Jerusalem which was not his or their home.
Thinking he would not be put to death but instead exiled or restrained as the insane were usually handled. The Romans were not in a habit of executing insane folk.

Too many discrepancies.
Too many 2nd. century and even later writings to know the actual events or the correct naames of those involved.

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fayte.m
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posted March 13, 2006 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
I will however read the book to see if there is a remote possiblity of gleaning something useful from it.
Here is a a book by Mr.Robinson.

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