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Topic: So a ghost, huh?
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Eleanore
Moderator Posts: 1278
From: North Carolina
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted April 08, 2006 07:25 AM
 
Okay, some of you here may be familiar with my previous posts in regards to the "paranormal".
Anyhoo, we moved into this house in January of last year. It's housing on an air force base and, with that in mind, it's a nice place for now. The only thing that has ever bothered me here is the stairwell, landing, and ocassionally the bathroom upstairs.
I get that creepy, someone's watching me feeling. I keep looking over my shoulder as if someone were actually there. I've heard the floor boards creek as though someone were walking up the stairs or in my bedroom at night but no one is there ... amongst other things. At least, that's what I tell myself. I've come to loathe going upstairs which is unfortunate since my son needs his diaper changed every couple of hours.
But all this time I've overlooked it. I'm just being paranoid, I tell myself. The house is old, it makes funny noises. It is highly unlikely that both my recent homes have had "something" strange going on. I've also hoped that, since my husband has been working nights for most of the time we've been, I'm just over-reacting to being alone most of the time. You know, the silence is loud, etc.
But this morning, as luck would have it, I can no longer attribute my ill feelings to my imagination.
I was on the landing, calling to my husband to come upstairs and finally get to bed. (We have lots to do and, since he keeps his work-at-night schedule on the weekends, nothing will get done if he isn't in bed by 6am ... it was already 7am when I called to him.) I was calling in a whisper because I didn't want to wake the baby and my husband usually hears me that way. I called out 3 times. Then a voice answered, in what can only be described as a shouted whisper, "Yeeesss". Unfortunately, that voice was not my husband's. I whistled for him, spoke to him for a second, and ran into bed. Tried to go back to sleep but could not. So, here I am.
I've received lots of lovely advice here before. I am very grateful for it. 
Sadly, though, it hasn't really worked for me here. Any ideas?------------------
"To learn is to live, to study is to grow, and growth is the measurement of life. The mind must be taught to think, the heart to feel, and the hands to labor. When these have been educated to their highest point, then is the time to offer them to the service of their fellowman, not before." - Manly P. Hall IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted April 10, 2006 10:26 AM
Ok...just a theory.
Is it possible your husband is an unconcious telepath and astral projector? Some folks during intense deeply mental work...can bi-locate like that. Be in essence, unconciously two places at once, physically and astrally. Do you feel any danger from the one who said yessss as you called out to your husband? Or was your fear simply because it was weird and unexplainable to you?
Tell more please.
The one thing that concerns me is the whispered "yesss".
I get that during eurekas when I say..."I got it!" Which is often followed by that whispered "yesss". Also the "death" character personified in "Meet Joe Black" often said..."yesss".
Have you seen or reciently seen that movie?
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Eleanore
Moderator Posts: 1278
From: North Carolina
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted April 10, 2006 03:23 PM
Hi, fayte.m.
Thanks for your response.
I suppose it is possible that my husband is like that (I do suspect he is quite psychic but either not interested in it or just unaware of it). He was playing one of his on-line RPGs and is usually maddeningly focused on it when he plays.
However, the "Yesss" was very sinister sounding and chilled me to the bone (literally shivers ran from my forehead down to my tailbone) instantly. I did feel threatened ... in fact, I actually, I am ashamed to admit, staggered backwards and clutched at my chest.
I've heard and seen other "strange" things and have *usually* remained inexplicably calm about them. But not this.
I saw "Meet Joe Black" a number of years ago but do not really remember the "death" character saying "yesss". Perhaps I should watch it again?------------------
"To learn is to live, to study is to grow, and growth is the measurement of life. The mind must be taught to think, the heart to feel, and the hands to labor. When these have been educated to their highest point, then is the time to offer them to the service of their fellowman, not before." - Manly P. Hall IP: Logged |
Nephthys
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From: California
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted April 10, 2006 10:03 PM
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It is highly unlikely that both my recent homes have had "something" strange going on.
No, it is NOT unlikely, especially if you are a medium (yes, you and/or your husband probably are), you are sensitive, and these spirits have probably followed you from previous houses/homes. Believe me, I have read/studied/watched documentaries on this type of phenomenon all my life, and it's the most likely possibility.
You need to surround your home in white light, and ask angels to protect you and your family. You need to ask any spirits to kindly depart the premises. Affirm it, and thank them for doing so.
  Good luck 
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Nephthys
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posted April 10, 2006 10:06 PM
Also, nothing can hurt you unless you give your power away to it. Don't be fearful. Fear attracts negativity. Negative = negative. Positive = positive. Think, BE positive. Feel positive. Affirm positive thoughts. IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
Moderator Posts: 3472
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted April 11, 2006 12:22 AM
On a purely practical way, after figuring out the heebie geebies come specifically from going upstairs to change angel's diaper....Grab yourself a basket of supplies you can keep on the lower level, and replenish it daily.... so you don't have to confront that feeling when obligated to change his diaper. Avoidance can work, and strictly from a standpoint of convenience...
grab the necessary things, a diaper changing pad to protect surfaces, all the supplies needed, and change his wittle bum where it's convenient for you, the busy, freaked out momma.
You are definately a gifted person.
The 'yesss' would flip me out beyond belief as well..... confront it when you are strong and confident, not when you are emotionally involved and unstable. Build up to it, until then.. avoid that circumstance. Love and light to you.
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Eleanore
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From: North Carolina
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted April 11, 2006 11:27 AM
Hi Nephthys. Thanks for those kind words.
What you quoted me on is what I try and tell myself so that I don't panic. LOL, clearly it's not working very well. And you're right, I know it can happen. I was just hoping that it wasn't happening to me.
I'm having trouble with basic visualizations lately. Even picturing white or golden light is difficult for me now whereas before it was very easy. I keep getting pretty disturbing images flashing in my mind, not just when I try to visualize or meditate but even when I try to pray. It's a bit unnerving because I've never before (except once in our old apartment) had trouble praying and visualizing positive things. I've asked the angels for protection, and I've asked for the spirits to leave and thanked them ... the house feels fine for about a day and then it all starts up again. I really don't know what to do anymore. I've burned incense and kept water glasses. And even fresh cut flowers I bring in here have been dying in a few hours. They used to last for a couple of weeks. The only plants/flowers alive now are in the kitchen and they're right above the sink ... I think it's because I do most of my positive thinking there as I was dishes or cook meals.
I know nothing can hurt me unless I let it. But I can't help being afraid. I don't know how else to describe it. I've never been a nervous or fearful person generally. When any (except for one that occurred at our previous residence) emergencies or psychic phenomena have happened in my past I've been the one who remains calm, confident, and acts instinctively. Not anymore. Now there is just this feeling of utter horror and dread, followed by panic and nasty mental images or feelings that I have to literally fight out of my head/heart.
I sound like a nut.
I'll keep trying to think, feel and be positive. I really am trying. 
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Hi pixelpixie. Thanks to you, too.
I know what you mean about avoidance and I tried that the first day (brought all the diaper stuff downstairs and didn't go back up until it was time for his bath/bed routine) but that just made it harder to go back up there. Gosh, I feel like a little kid scared of the closet. I've even been having trouble sleeping and, for the first time in my life have had to sleep with the tv on. How bad is that? But knowing that what I may be hearing is coming from the tv makes it easier to sleep.
This is just ridiculous. I almost can't believe this is happening.
What else bothers me is that I know Mathias is seeing something, too. When I'm feeding him (the dining room has a direct view to the stairwell) he occasionally looks over to the stairs and either laughs and then stops abruptly or just stares off and starts yelling. Then, when I'm rocking him to sleep, he'll jerk awake and look towards the landing and start talking and shaking his little fist. He'll do that a few times and then go to sleep. I have no idea what he is saying since he's only 9 1/2 months old. He also sometimes just looks around me (like he's looking at me above my head or next to me) and starts talking to something or crying. It's upsetting enough for me, but thinking that perhaps whatever it is can access him too is unbearable. 
What to do, what to do ...
I'll stick with positive thinking and push my way through my prayers. There's gotta' be something more, though. Please, tell me there's something more. <sigh>
Enough.
Thanks for all your resposnes. It means a lot to know there are people I can talk to who won't judge me and who understand. 
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"To learn is to live, to study is to grow, and growth is the measurement of life. The mind must be taught to think, the heart to feel, and the hands to labor. When these have been educated to their highest point, then is the time to offer them to the service of their fellowman, not before." - Manly P. Hall IP: Logged |
TINK
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From: New England
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted April 11, 2006 12:27 PM
I've been here, Eleanor. And I know it ain't pretty. The best advice I have is to stay as far away as possible from anything of an spiritual/esoteric nature. Prayer not included of course, however I would practically plead with you not to meditate. There's a line I've always remembered from a book I found to be very helpful, although unfortunately I found it after the fact. (Dion Fortune's Pyschic Self-Defense. I think I maybe mentioned it to you once?) In it, the author says the safest place for a person under attack is in a movie theater watching a Charlie Chaplin movie. These things rarely bother closed off sorts. It's just too difficult to get thru to them. It was awfully hard for me to put away my books, meditations, fasting etc. and amuse myself with the strictly mundane and ordinary, but it worked. Keep cultivating that protective white light too. I'm with you in thought. and Randall has my e-mail, if you would like. There are many things about that experience I wouldn't even discuss here. IP: Logged |
Eleanore
Moderator Posts: 1278
From: North Carolina
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted April 11, 2006 12:55 PM
Tink!
I was hoping you'd respond.
Yes, I have Psychic Self-Defense. But even her visualizations are hard to keep up now. I used to do them just fine ...
And trust me, I haven't been able to meditate for a while and am frankly a bit afraid to try again.
It's so funny that you say that ... since I found out I was pregnant I stopped reading most of my books and actively pursuing anything occult. Then things got strange. I know I wrote about it here before. When we moved in here, I felt a little strange but it's just gotten stronger. I've done one tarot reading for a friend (something I've been doing since I was 12) here and things got stranger after that, though I won't discuss it here.
I've taken that advice to heart (Dion Fortune's) and have put away most of my books except for astrology and some of Steiner's books (Heaven help me but I can't keep away from Steiner, lol) ... but even those are basic books and one is one Waldorf schooling.
I don't watch movies or read fiction books with occult phenomena anymore either. I haven't fasted in a very long time.
I'm trying to relate to the mundane but I'm finding that difficult too ... it's just so boring and uninteresting to me. I kind of feel like my life is being taken away from me slowly ... all the things I've always read and done and known are just slipping away because of whatever-the-bleep-this-is.
And yet things still come through. I know there are ways to shut yourself off but everything I've come across involves some form of visualization/meditation.
I've been getting more into gardening and cooking, looking into picking up some old crafts, and getting almost obsessive about the housework ... lol, and yet here I am with this. What's even stranger to me now, though, is that talking with hubby a little while ago he "suddenly remembered" that he did answer me that morning with a "yes". He swears he said it outloud but not in a sinister way. But I didn't hear it in his voice or coming from downstairs at all. It was coming from the third bedroom directly in front of me and it was definitely not hubby's voice. If I thought my hubby was capable of resonding to me with such malice and negativity ... he would not be my hubby.
I want to believe him but part of me thinks he's saying it so I won't be afraid anymore. But he seems sincere ...
Circles never end.
I'll contact Randall. Thanks so much. ------------------
"To learn is to live, to study is to grow, and growth is the measurement of life. The mind must be taught to think, the heart to feel, and the hands to labor. When these have been educated to their highest point, then is the time to offer them to the service of their fellowman, not before." - Manly P. Hall IP: Logged |
salome
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posted April 11, 2006 01:01 PM
dearest Eleanore ~it appears that protecting and clearing your home from these energies is what you are in need of doing. please please try to get this book...diane stein knows whereof you speak...she describes just what you are experiencing and very specific and effective methods to manage this type of situation. and her methods WORK...i know this personally.  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1580910904/sr=8-1/qid=114477 3623/ref=sr_1_1/002-1822882-9295243?%5Fencoding=UTF8 http://www.dianestein.net/ if you're interested, i'd love to help you with a few other methods that would effect some relief for you. these include utilizing some flower essences and asperges for your home. please email me at salome_nu@yahoo.com if you'd like. i'd be happy to relate some of the relevant passages of the above book. i agree with Tink also...i remember something from dion fortune's book as well...she says when you feel overwhelmed in a psychic way, always resort to the spiritual tradition with which you grew up and are familiar...it doesnt matter what it entails...as long as it is something ingrained in you as spirituality. for me, having grown up as catholic, attending mass and catholic school regularly, it was the lord's prayer. i hadn't recited this prayer in decades...literally...but reading her book at a very intense and appropriate time for me, well, this little directive had an enormous and positive impact on an otherwise ground shattering roller coaster ride that life threw at me... it was the most imperative and powerful action i had available and it did save me. well, anyway, much love and light to you beautiful lady...i'd also be happy to send protective and healing energy to you if you so wish... love and blessings from salome IP: Logged |
26taurus
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From: the stars
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posted April 11, 2006 01:23 PM
Sorry, didnt have time to read the whole thread. Wanted to say hello, Eleanore. Know that youre protected. IP: Logged |
salome
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posted April 11, 2006 01:36 PM
hi again Eleanore  i was just thinking...i can send that book to you if you wish... and here are a few things that have strong magic ~ wear or carry a black tourmaline crystal with you, and place one in your room. this crystal repels entities. draw a pentagram of light above your head, the room you're in, and around your babe -- you will feel this! then, if you wish, feel the light from this shape extend down and all around you. wear or draw these protective amulets and place in your room ~ buckle of isis  eye of horus  IP: Logged |
Nephthys
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From: California
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posted April 11, 2006 04:43 PM
Eleanore,So sorry to hear that nothing is really helping. You just have to keep trying, keep praying, keep affirming the positive. Play positive, happy, upbeat music.  If worse comes to worse and you can't move, you might have to get some priest, psychic or mystic to come into your home and clear out the negative spirit(s). IP: Logged |
BlueTopaz124
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From: Portland, OR
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posted April 11, 2006 09:25 PM
Eleanore, Bless you and your family. You are protected, and I agree, when you feel vulnerable or threatened, resort to reciting prayers that will instantly calm and soothe you. For me, it is the Lord's Prayer. Also, I ask for protection of The Light of God and Jesus to surround me and protect at that moment. It has never failed me. My sense about this is that something feels threatened by your presence and is either protecting their 'territory' or just knows you're someone who is aware of these kinds of energies. Love and light sent your way right now. Laura IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
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From: Ontario Canada
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posted April 11, 2006 11:04 PM
Wonderful outpouring of support.
to you and yours. IP: Logged |
26taurus
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posted April 12, 2006 01:20 PM
Indeed. Try not to give the entity any fear to feed upon. Surround yourself in a protective White Light. IP: Logged |
Eleanore
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From: North Carolina
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted April 12, 2006 03:24 PM
Thanks for all your advice and positive thoughts. I really appreciate it. I don't know what else to say.
I've been making a concerted effort to be as positive as I can be as often as I can. (Not that I'm not normally positive but, you know, being extra positive now.  ) Nothing super creepy has happened again, just the same old stuff, so I'm feeling better.
If anything changes, I'll be sure to update. Though I really hope you won't be hearing from me again about something like this.  ------------------
"To learn is to live, to study is to grow, and growth is the measurement of life. The mind must be taught to think, the heart to feel, and the hands to labor. When these have been educated to their highest point, then is the time to offer them to the service of their fellowman, not before." - Manly P. Hall IP: Logged |
sesame
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posted April 20, 2006 11:12 AM
Well, a bit belated, but I just wanted to suggest the salt idea - sprinkle some in all corners and entrances. Hey, do ants like salt? Hmm, that could be an added nuisance, but hopefully not.Best of Luck Eleanore! Dean. ps. I can't go without stating one of Linda's mantras in the likeliness of "Divine Spirit of my Higher Self, Rid this house from all negative Spirits and unwelcomed entiies. I ordain this Now and in Grace, thank you". IP: Logged | |
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