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steelrose
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posted April 17, 2006 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message
Hi all,

Any thought on how to protect yourself of someone sucking your energy? A friend and I have noticed that being close to someone both know makes us feel miserable and helpless, depressed… while he appears to revive… As if he was draining us…

Not that we specially talk about any depressing topics. But last time I got back home sinking, very anxious and with such a heavy weigh on my chest that breathing was difficult. I was so tired, so sad, as if I was being strangled…

Any kind of talisman or charm I can wear when I go near him?

Thanks!!!


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sesame
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posted April 17, 2006 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
I would suggest three things:

1. You could say into a mirror "Mirror, from now on, you will receive all of the energy this person is aiming towards me. Everything will be reflected!"

2. Say out loud "Divine Spirit of my higher self, please protect me from all dark energy sources. I ordain this now and in grace, thank you."

3. Act cheerfully and clearly around him. He might be consciously taking your energy from the environment he creates. By being clear, you are preventing this. By being positive, you may even reduce his desire to take your energy as he may become higher.

If all else fails, don't hang around him. The world is hard enough to put up with without people who intentionally steal more energy.

Just some things to try.

Heaps of Love,
Dean.

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Iqhunk
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posted April 17, 2006 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iqhunk     Edit/Delete Message
The 3 steps told by Dean + Visualize an amethyst shade of violet coloured bubble completely around yourselves.

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steelrose
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posted April 17, 2006 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, guys!!!

Shall I do 2 when in front of him or at any time? Avoiding him completely is not that simple, he’s been a friend of mine for 20 years. He treats me nicely, it’s just the fact that I feel completely drained, especially when he physically touches me. Last time conversation was light and he still drained us…

For some reason I must have sensed this a few years ago because I distanced myself from him quite successfully. At some point our relationship became strangling, a heavy burden… I suppose it was his mere presence stealing my energy… So I kept him at a safe distance. My friend wasn’t so lucky (or so clever… ).

You just can’t say “Stay away” to someone you have been friends with for so long without an apparent reason. Especially, as it is the case of my friend, when he has been her agony aunt for years… Curiously, she always said talking to him was of no use or good for her… But I suppose, while I was abroad, he was better than nobody…

I heard than white quartz is a good talisman for that… What about amethyst? I bet it’s better… Purple plates???

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13anshee
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posted April 17, 2006 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 13anshee     Edit/Delete Message
or just not talk to them
i dunno, sounds cold but the best thing for the world for you to do is what's best for you, why treat the effect when you can stop the cause?

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13anshee
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posted April 17, 2006 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 13anshee     Edit/Delete Message
and what does it matter if you have known him 20 years?
whats 20 years to an immortal?
moreso why weight friendship on length in years
i thought friendship and love was all about quality not quantity
sorry if i sound dictating or something like that, i'm just tryin to help

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steelrose
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posted April 17, 2006 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message
I know you are...

20 years mean that he's been most of my life around... Trying to help I suppose even when he doesn't quite manage... because he only ends up helping himself...

I don't think he does it intentionally... Is it egoism? Self-importance? Why is he so out-of-tune and steals instead of sharing?

Does he deserve to be chastised by the whole world? Wouldn't it be better to keep him at a safe distance and allow him our company but avoiding his drainage???

Poor thing... What if we are wrong anyway? Can't we help him without being sucked in?

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funkyaquarianpixie
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posted April 17, 2006 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for funkyaquarianpixie     Edit/Delete Message
labradorite and black tourmaline is a good combo for such things, black tourmaline blocks negative energy and labradorite acts as empathic shield.

some form of sheilding visualisation is a good idea also.

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amisha121877
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posted April 17, 2006 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amisha121877     Edit/Delete Message
if you are familiar with stones - then you could go ahead and use them.

but, if you are not, i really like the mirror exercise - mentally placing a mirror from you towards the person who is the "emotional vampire" so they can feel/see their own reflection - it's blocking in that it won't pass the mirror onto you.

i also read somewhere that if you mentally imagine yourself backing out of the same room as the person (don't turn your back and walk away) then that will help you let go of the person.

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ScarlettSoul
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posted April 18, 2006 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScarlettSoul     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Steelrose,

I have known people like this. In my experience, it's not just a person's aura that needs to be considered, it's often the person's mental attitude. I think these people create this with their negative, "downer" demeaners and their low thoughts.

I think that if you can't have an honest talk about how the negativity is sometimes difficult to be around, then I think you need to deepen your level of friendship with this person. There's a way to make someone aware of this without being hurtful or critical. You might really help him change his negative thought forms in the process.

Bottom line - you are what you think. If he's negative, and you're working to keep things light and positive, of course there's nothing else left to do but be drained. You're pouring your lifeforce into a bottomless pit that you can never fill on your own.

Crystals and stones may help, but I think they can only do so much. I think you should be honest with your friend.

Just my two cents!

Scarlett

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silverstone
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posted April 18, 2006 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Ok... Has your friend always drained you? Is it just happening now?

My best advice... and I cannot say much here other than stay away from this person... He/she can be taking your energy... and he/she knows that...

Wear crystals quartz, amathyst. when you are around this friend! You have to understand that you must go with your gut feeling... trust me on this... if you are being drained it is not good and it will get very-very-very worse.

Also, is there water around you, such as a river... if so, carry the crystals with you in your pocket, etc... than, throw the crystals into the river after seeing your friend. Not water in your home.

Stay away from negative energy-- always, especially if you do not know how to help them-- if there intentions is not to harm you--- again what does your gut tell you? That is all I can say here...

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~*Silverstone~*

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steelrose
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posted April 18, 2006 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message
Ohhhh!! Thank you so much… I’ll do the visualisation technique next time I have to go near him. I’ll try and get labradorite and black tourmaline. Stones give me an anchor… They give me a physical start point to imagine the shield around me… So I’m sure they will help…

I’ll talk to this friend of mine who is also affected by his drainage… She sees him more often… He is an expansive Leo, very outgoing, a social freak and an extrovert… He is not especially negative about himself… But he does tend to discourage others and negativize other people’s situation, or diminish its importance. He has trouble empathising as if he couldn’t see much further from his own nose. Maybe he needs to be told to stop putting others down and dramatising about his situation to start trying to feel and understand the pain of others, to stop being selfish.

But how do you make someone supportive if he’s not? Maybe that’s why he is draining. Because he dismisses your needs while demands your attention constantly. Could it be a solution to stop giving importance to his never-ending demands, just half ignoring what he says?

I always had the impression that he wanted to control me. To have me. He likes me. And he senses I slip between his hands. With my friend is different. I think he doesn’t consider her as good enough. But she is always there when he needs her.

He was always there, he knows me well… but I feel oppressed by him so I tend to keep the distance and not tell him everything… It was worse in the past when we used to see each other everyday. I still kind of see him as a brother… one you have enough of with a couple of visits a year…

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thebigeliza
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posted April 18, 2006 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thebigeliza     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Steelrose,
I dont know if it is just a coincidence but a few of my Leo friends are being the same way lately,going on and on about how life is worthless and I am wasting all my energy trying to help them,and just end up getting drained.I have been using the visualization tecnique Iqhunk told you about the violet,and it really helps.Ive also been carrying a clear quartz crystal my father gave me a few years back. Im finding the more I protect myself from emotional vampires,the more they are surrounding me and becoming louder and more "in your face" or something so I am now spending alot more time alone with nature.I am pretty lonely,but at least I am feeling full of life again and beginning to really care about myself.I am 20 years old,I had to stop hanging out with a friend who Ive known for 10 years because of this,and yes I miss the good times and him very much,but now I am finally beginning to see,all these people I have been surrounded with are draining me of my happiness and peace by doing and saying negative things,then I become negative and they become "happy and peaceful" and tell me that I am a negative and angry person. They are trying to hurt me,whether they know it or not,I Know It,and I am going to rid it from my life because when I am alone I feel such peace,then around others that wont leave me alone with my peace,they keep attacking me in ways,then when I get upset,they seem happy.So I am choosing to be alone,but more so I am choosing have complete control over myself so no one else can.I know I may come off as "agressive" about this,but I have recently realized everyone around me has been doing this because I didnt know and wasnt properly protected.So continue with the violet surrounding you,if your friend doesnt want to change,you cant change him,all you can do is hope for him to find happiness,and continue on your path.Sending love and light to you Eliza Libra/Scorpio/Aquarius

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steelrose
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posted April 19, 2006 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Eliza!!! Thanks for your words. I think you are right to keep yourself away from those selfish takers around you. I try to do the same. Unconsciously, I’m not much in touch with him. The word to define him is DRAINING, that is…

I got a pair of black tourmaline pendants and gave one to my friend, we’ll see if they do any good when we go near him… (Thanks, Funky, for your suggestion… )

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Black tourmaline - Deflects and repels negative energy, especially psychic attack. Protects against microwaves, radiation, "spells," and ill-wishing. Grounds spiritual energy, increases physical vitality. Defends against debilitating disease, strengthens immune system. Treats dyslexia and arthritis. Earth chakra.

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Sun_Scorpion
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posted April 23, 2006 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sun_Scorpion     Edit/Delete Message
Good luck SR! Ive had a bit of experience with an 'emotional vampire' but for me the relationship was far more emotional and fiery, so getting out of it completly was a real relief!! I think they felt suprised I wasn't keen to be around them anymore, maybe noticing the difference in energy or something..?
Anyways, white light and strength to you, you've got some good advice there!

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steelrose
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posted April 24, 2006 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, SunScorp!!!

My friend told me she used the black tourmaline I got for her. I asked her to imagine she was inside an impenetrable egg of light when he was around him...

And she said it worked... She wasn't depressed when she got back home...

I'll see how it goes for me...

Thanks again to everyone for all your lovely suggestions...

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Girl of the Water
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posted May 12, 2006 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Girl of the Water     Edit/Delete Message
Is there any you can tell if you yourself are an emotional vampire?

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BlueTopaz124
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posted May 13, 2006 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Steelrose, this made a lot of sense to me:

"He is not especially negative about himself… But he does tend to discourage others and negativize other people’s situation, or diminish its importance. He has trouble empathising as if he couldn’t see much further from his own nose. Maybe he needs to be told to stop putting others down and dramatising about his situation to start trying to feel and understand the pain of others, to stop being selfish.

But how do you make someone supportive if he’s not? Maybe that’s why he is draining. Because he dismisses your needs while demands your attention constantly. Could it be a solution to stop giving importance to his never-ending demands, just half ignoring what he says?"

A Leo woman whom I sit near at work is like this - I see it quite a bit in a few other Leo natives I know. It's almost as if unless the subject pertains to them, they couldn't care less about it, not interested. My sister, a Leo, is like this. Not to say all Leo natives are, but the few I know are. An Aquarius ex-boyfriend was married to a Leo and he said exactly the same thing about her...

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zeldatiara
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posted May 28, 2006 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zeldatiara     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, I'm new to this board, I'm usually just at the astro board, but decided to branch out. I saw this topic and it jumped out at me.

I used to be an emotional vampire magnet! (and i bet i was a bit of an EV too because it was part of how i understood we related to one another) The environment I grew up in had too many alcoholics (I'm being facetious, one is too many, I know, I know, but we have to have a sense of humor about these things!) which creates an energy imbalance anyway, but it also seems to me that almost all of us were 'emotional vampires' to one another! (Does that make any sense to anybody?)
Anyway, once I started going out into the world, I seemed to attract these types like flies to honey! So, in my experience:
1. there are several degrees of this energy sapping behavior
2. there are different reasons why EVs are like this
3. some EVs choose their targets (consciously or subconsciously) and are very good at hiding their skills from those they know will challenge them

This especially got my attention:

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I always had the impression that he wanted to control me... but I feel oppressed by him.

I think he does want to control you. Listen to your gut, your intuition.

I realized that trusting my intuition versus others' ideas and opinions on who I was, what I should do, etc. really galvanized me. I had to drop some folks from my life, and it was terrifying at first, but like any positive change, after time it felt healthier and healthier.

A while ago I would have suggested you simply cut this guy out of your life, but it does not sound like you are ready to take that step, and you may not have to.

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He is not especially negative about himself� But he does tend to discourage others and negativize other people�s situation, or diminish its importance. He has trouble empathising...

You mentioned he was a Leo. In my experience with fire signs, this trait can come out when they are truly angry at themselves.

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But how do you make someone supportive if he�s not? Maybe that�s why he is draining. Because he dismisses your needs while demands your attention constantly.

Classic! Of course you will feel drained if you feel you must constantly be defending yourself but also trying to be a friend to a drama-king.

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Could it be a solution to stop giving importance to his never-ending demands, just half ignoring what he says?

I've finally gotten to where I can now do this, though it took time, and some EVs can be dealt with this way, and others cannot. It's all about the level of severity.

For now do the things you feel comfortable with, and personally, amethyst, topaz, and labradorite have been extremely helpful.

Good luck!

~ Zelda

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steelrose
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posted June 26, 2006 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, girls, thanks for your comments. I just saw your replies!!! I often don’t have much time so I fly over the forums I’ve recently posted to… So I overlooked them…

I agree, I tend to get that impression with fire signs… I must say that one of my two closest friends is a Leo male, which is the most supportive guy I’ve ever known…

Welcome, Zelda Sorry to hear you’ve grown up in such an environment… I guess you are surrounded by EV not because you are one but because you are energetically vulnerable. You sound very brave, a real fighter…

This friend I was on about, my particular EV, is a true drama-king. I haven’t cut him off in consideration of all the years he’s been around, but I keep him at a distance. At a certain point in my life I ignored him deliberately because I needed to breathe so he stuck like glue to my best friend. She has taken years to realise she is being used… He needs his public, his particular agony-aunt… but he doesn’t give that attention back when required…

I tried the black tourmaline and it was fine… But what I think it really made the difference was a change in my attitude.

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posted December 15, 2006 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sugarlightning     Edit/Delete Message
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