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silverstone
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posted May 01, 2006 05:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Gooberz page 821...

Linda states:

.... the letters of her name, Isis, eternally held within the letters of his name, Osiris forever inseperable ....

that these two created, through their love
not one child-- but three ?
Horus was their son... and Isis gave birth also to twins
who were named Mercury and Vulcan
Vulcan, the goddess-- not the god-- of thunder
for Vulcan is a female planet
then later, I promised myself
that I would someday sort out the tangled webs of false mythology

Only half serioususly, and more than a little sadly, because there were other truths I channeled after you left related to Greece, MT. Olympus... the Great Pyramid of Gizeh Egyptian secrets of Initiation and... yes, of Atlantis too... and the buried records.... Gooberz page 821...

I kept thinking about the below Myth of Osiris and Isis... I believe there is a relation to what Linda states in Gooberz...



The Myth of Osiris and Isis, and the Birth of Horus

From The Power of Myth by Joseph Campbell (1988, p. 220-223):

"Moyers: If we go back to antiquity, do we find images of the Madonna as the mother of the savior child?

"Campbell: The antique model for the Madonna, actually, is Isis with Horus at her breast.

"Moyers: Isis?

"Campbell: It's a complicated story. Indeed all of these get to be pretty complicated. But Isis and her husband Osiris were twins, born of the Goddess Nut. And their younger relatives were Seth and Nephthys, who were also twins born from Nut. One night, Osiris slept with Nephthys, thinking she was Isis - a kind of inattention to details, you might say. From that night's event, Anubis was born, Osiris' oldest son, but by the wrong wife. Seth, her husband, took this badly and planned to kill his older brother, Osiris. Secretly he took Osiris' measurements and had a beautiful sarcophagus made that would exactly fit him. And then, one evening, when there was a lively party in progress among the gods, Seth came in with his sarcophagus and declared that anyone whom it perfectly fitted could have it as a gift for his tomb. Everyone at the party tried, and of course when Osiris got in, the sarcophagus fitted him perfectly. Immediately seventy-two accomplices came rushing out, and they clapped the lid on, strapped it together, and threw it into the Nile. So what we have here is the death of a god. And whenever you have the death of such a god as this, you may next expect a resurrection.

"The death of Osiris was symbolically associated with the annual rising and flooding of the river Nile, by which the soil of Egypt was annually fertilized. It was as though the rotting of the body of Osiris fertilized and vitalized the land.

"Osiris went floating down the Nile and was washed ashore on a beach in Syria. A beautiful tree with a wonderful aroma grew up and incorporated the sarcophagus in its trunk. [Could this trunk be a symbol for a very large phallus?] The local king had just had a son born to him and happened at the time to be about to build a palace. And because the aroma of that tree was so wonderful, he had it cut down and brought in to become the central pillar in the main room of the palace.

"Meanwhile the poor goddess Isis, whose husband had been thrown into the Nile, started off on a search for his body. This theme of the search for the God who is the spouse of the soul is a prime mythological theme of the period: of the Goddess who goes in quest of her lost spouse or lover and, through loyalty and a descent into the realm of death, becomes his redeemer.

"Isis comes in time to the palace and there learns of the aromatic column in the royal palace. She suspects this may have something to do with Osiris, and she gets a job as nurse to the newborn child. Well, she lets the child nurse from her finger - after all, she's a goddess, and there's a limit to the degree of stooping to conquer. But she loves the little boy and decides to give him immortality by placing him in the fireplace to burn his mortal body away. As a goddess, she could prevent the fire from killing him, you understand. And every evening, while the child is in the fire, she transforms herself into a swallow and goes flying mournfully around the column in which her husband is enclosed.

"One evening the child's mother comes into the room while this little scene is in progress, sees her infant in the fireplace, lets out a scream, which breaks the spell, and the child has to be rescued from incineration. The swallow, meanwhile, has turned back into the gorgeous nurse and goddess, who explains the situation and says to the queen, "By the way, it's my husband there in that column, and I'd be grateful if you would just let me take him home." So the king, who has appeared on the scene, says, "Why, yes! Certainly." He has the column removed, turns it over to Isis, and the beautiful sarcophagus containing Osiris is placed on a royal barge.

"On the way back to the Nile Delta, Isis removes the lid of the coffin, lies upon her dead husband, and conceives. This is a motif that appears in the ancient mythologies all the time under many symbolic forms - out of death comes life. Then the barge has landed, the Goddess gives birth in the papyrus swamp to her child, Horus; and it was the figure of this divine other with her child conceived of God that became the model for the Madonna.

"Moyers: And the swallow became, did it not, the dove?

"Campbell: Well, the dove, the bird in flight, is a pretty nearly universal symbol of the spirit, as in Christianity, of the Holy Ghost -

"Moyers: - associated with the sacred mother?

"Campbell: With the mother as conceiving of the spirit, yes. But one more little detail here. The jealous younger brother, Seth, meanwhile, has usurped the throne of Osiris. However, properly to represent the throne, he should marry Isis. In Egyptian iconography, Isis represents the throne. The Pharaoh sits on the throne, which is Isis, as a child on its mother's lap. And so, when you stand before the cathedral of Chartres, you will see over one of the portals of the western front an image of the Madonna as the throne upon which the child Jesus sits and blesses the world as its emperor. That is precisely the image that has come down to us from most ancient Egypt. The early fathers and the early artists took over these images intentionally.

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I am wondering if Horus was actually Set's son... Set had to be in charge after the death of Osiris.... and Isis could have probably later had twins with Horus her own son(at one point her and Osiris were bother and sister (twins) and husband and wife) Horus is another name for Osiris....

Isis gave birth to 3... as Linda states... 1st Horus then twins: Vulcan (female) and Pan-Horus (Male).. Virgo ruling Vulcan and Pan-Horus ruling taurus... Does that sound right?

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posted May 01, 2006 06:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I could be wrong... any feedback?

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posted May 01, 2006 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Greetings...

No. Horus was NOT Set's child.

According to Linda, he was born of Isis by the Penis of Osiris (remember it was her task to find the scattered pieces, and she was, after all, a goddess.)

Linda read "Twins" to be Soul Mates or Twin Flames, not biological brother and sister. In her version of the Creation Myth, all children, before 'The First Sun-Set" were born as "Twins".

Hope that helps a bit.

In the Light...

A

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posted May 01, 2006 10:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the feedback, Aselzion... but than why does she mentioned in Gooberz, page 821: that these two created, through their love
not one child-- but three ?
Horus was their son... and Isis gave birth also to twins
who were named Mercury and Vulcan
Vulcan, the goddess-- not the god-- of thunder
for Vulcan is a female planet"


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posted May 02, 2006 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Greetings...

According to Linda, before the Fall ALL children were born as Twins. So in her version of the creation myth, Vulcan and Mercury were the first set of Twins.

After the Fall, when Isis conceived a child by means of the golden penis and magic, only one child was produced and that was Horus.

Prior to the Fall, children were not born in the same way (biologically or anatomically) as they were after the Fall, but this was a mystery that Linda did not include in Star Signs (to the best of my recollection).

So, there are your 3 children. Hope that helps.

Blessings...

A

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posted May 03, 2006 10:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Greetings Alzesion... thanks for your comments... it just hit me... Osiris did die

and before time..we enjoyed immortality..and yes creaton was different..
gold member..the next crown bearer..the golden serpent..
Horus is hours..when time began..
twins were born..
Osiris died...
Lotus and I are on this topic right now...

So Osiris was not the father of Horus... someone else was and it had to be SET

What do you think...?

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posted May 04, 2006 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Greetings...

According to my conversations with Linda, it was her belief that Isis conceived the Horus child by herself, with the penis of Osiris.

As the story goes, Set dismembered the body of Osiris and scattered the 14 pieces around the world. It was the mission (see the word ISIS in mission?) of Isis to gather those pieces to bring Osiris back.

One of the pieces that she found was the penis, which she transformed into gold after using it to impregnate herself. The penis belonged to Osiris, but technically he was not really in on the act as the rest of him was still scattered about.

So, in Linda's creation story, Horus was the son of Isis (and the penis of Osiris). But because he was the product of a sexual union AFTER the FALL <prior to that sex was different, according to Linda>.

This is my recollection of what she told me.

SET was NOT the father of Horus. Horus actually battled with Set to avenge the murder of Osiris.

Hope that helps.

In the Light...

A

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posted December 09, 2009 02:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverStone     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP

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posted December 09, 2009 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message
That sounds correct.

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posted December 14, 2009 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message
Isis and Osiris may have been reptilian gods.

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posted December 17, 2009 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAG     Edit/Delete Message
Hi LTT;
Why reptilian Gods?
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posted December 18, 2009 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverStone     Edit/Delete Message
Well, we all have reptilian DNA

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posted December 29, 2009 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting.

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posted December 29, 2009 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message
Because some people have psoriasis and psoriasis lexigrams into Isis and Osiris.

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posted December 29, 2009 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message
rofl!

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I read a book once called "The Phoenix Solution" which told the tale about two extra planets in our Solar (Soular) System (NB: the following is not a summary of the book, but other theories added to some in the book) - lets call them Vulcan and Pan-Horus. The theory went that a star came close to ours and destabilised our Solar System causing all sorts of issues such as moons rotating the wrong ways, and planets orbiting out of whack (such as Neptune sometimes orbiting further away than Pluto, etc). Now, Pan-Horus was a HUGE planet just past Vulcan - the planets went Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Vulcan, Pan-Horus, Jupiter, etc. Vulcan was about the same size as Earth, and Pan-Horus the smaller than Jupiter. Anyhow, the Egyptians (through Atlantis) knew about these events and made up the story about the explosion of Vulcan and Pan-Horus to be akin to the battle between Seth and Horus. The Egyptians talked of this epic battle of how Seth stabbed Horus in the eye and Horus cut off Seth's testicles. This battle took place as avengeance of Horus on Seth as to murdering his father. So, Horus cutting off Seth's teticles was Pan-Horus exploding and knocking a chunk off Vulcan, which eventually became our moon, while Vulcan exploding into Pan-Horus was Seth stabbing Horus in the eye. The book went on to say that there is evidence the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter could be formed by the remains of two planets - one a large water planet (perhaps where Atlanteans originated from before taking over their island?), and the other a small barren planet. In any case, I like how these theories could tie in so many ideas and beliefs, etc. I also like how Isis "divinely" gave birth to Horus (the first Earth born and mortal god) as Mary divinely gave birth to Jesus - the parrallels to Mary and Isis are many - both were carved hundreds of times holding their divine offspring, who was fathered by a non-living god. It's possible too that the explosion of Pan-Horus killed off the dinosaurs. These are all just theories though.

Heaps of Love,
Dean.

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posted February 01, 2010 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverStone     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting post, Sesame!

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Sesame:
Those are interesting theories, but I'm really confused here. Linda said that Vulcan and Pan-Horus were yet to be discovered, but how could they if they collided and resulted in the asteroid belt?

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