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sesame
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posted May 02, 2006 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Hi guys,

I was always wondering why we shiver. I thought it was like animals where they shiver to trap the heat in their fur, but then we shiver on many occasions - not just chills. I finished the 2nd Harry Potter book, and while waiting until I obtain the next, found something else to read. I saw a book on a shelf called "Handbook of Natural Therapies" so took it. I read a note from my wife on one of the first pages that was quite touching and gave me shivers. She wrote it before we were married and the memories of everything surrounding that time and what we went through flooded through me. I then maintained the shivers as I looked through the index of all the things I was interested in and never got around to reading about like Reiki and colour therapies etc. A major aspect of this book is astrological inflences on health and how it was viewed as a major aspect of natural healing. I never really considered this, but Linda did mention it re Hypocrates etc. In any case, everything just washed through me and made me wonder about shivering as a form of vibrational healing. Vibrations are also mentioned in the book - and of course, relate to colour, and people could say, Astrology. So in essence, everything is vibrational, but when we have these shivers, I wonder if we are self-healing or allowing ourselves to strengthen or something according to these "soular" vibrations. It's like when something totally clicks, and you get that ah moment. I just wonder how it really affects us. I think we've talked along these lines before. What do you guys think?

Dean.

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fayte.m
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posted May 02, 2006 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
The body attempts to increase and conserve body heat by rerouting circulation and shivering

Vasoconstriction causes the blood to pool internally to conserve organ heat

Shivering causes the temperature to increase due to muscular activity

Individuals respond to cold stress by increasing muscular activity, wearing more clothes, or heating their living space

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sesame
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posted May 03, 2006 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Man, was that a scientific answer or what! Far out So, you don't think we shiver when we learn something Earth shattering or soular?

Dean.

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SunChild
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posted May 03, 2006 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
I think you're absolutely spot on Sesame, well that would explain it well enough for me.
I get a lot of shivers when I'm getting reflexology treatments, I'm totally warm, she even wraps me in a blanket before we start so I'm comfortable.
I tell her when I shiver if she hasn't already noticed and she said that's because she cleared a pathway on my meridian lines or something. I had a few blockages.

It's like I already know why I shiver but I just can't put it into words.

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fayte.m
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posted May 03, 2006 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
I do not consider those very nice "tingle shivers", hair standing on end, the regular "shivers".
So yeah, the other reason makes sense.
tin·gle:
v. tin·gled, tin·gling, tin·gles
v.intr.
1. To have a prickling, stinging sensation, as from cold, a sharp slap, or excitement: tingled all over with joy.



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~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
-NEXUS-

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BlueRoamer
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posted May 03, 2006 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
Shivers can also be induced by the emotion of awe. Lots of things can induce awe, including large buildings, music, art, a powerful figure, a religious experience. Emotional psychologists think that the emotion of awe started to allow groups to function under a leader.

Most physical products of an emotion are somehow tied in with an environmental adaptation. For example, crying serves to clear out the eyes. So when you're in pain, you cry. Also notice that when you're angry your lip curles back to expose your teeth (so you can bite your foes). When your disgusted your tongue sticks out (to spit poison out). A lot of these things are vestigial remnants of our primitive past. Most likely shivering has a similar origin.

Sensing ghosts, or having a spiritual experience can definitely induce awe. Awe is closely related to fear...we often fear things we can't comprehend, and sometimes are in awe of them (especially if they aren't harmful. Traditionally, a mammal experiences fear shivers to increase blood flow, and also gets goose bumps to erect its hair and make it look bigger and more threatening to a foe.

Ultimately, I think that shivers are a remnant of our more "primitive" past. Which is not to say we aren't still primitive.

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BlueTopaz124
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posted May 08, 2006 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
I understand what you're talking about, Dean. I get the shivers when I am talking to someone about something spiritual and having that shiver run through me (not because I'm cold, it has nothing to do with body temperature) as confirmation that this is true. It's just confirming what my higher self knows.

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sesame
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posted May 18, 2006 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Right on BlueTopaz124! And don't you think, that as the truths lead into other truths, and you start spiralling, that it feels as though you'll cry? It can be overwhelming, and I understand how shivers could arise for awe, but I think that awe is like looking into the face of God. You can't help but grow as an individual because of it. I honestly nelieve that shivers are an indication of growth, like de ja vus. In fact, do you get shivers from de ja vus? I rest my case

Dean.

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there is nothing but mystery in the world,
how it hides behind the fabric of our poor,
browbeat days, shining brightly, and we don't even know it.

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lotusheartone
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posted May 18, 2006 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
hehe..I just got shivers..like bees to a honey comb..

like the bee to the blossom..

all connected..like the internet..

the spritual web of life is constant. ...

Mastering this world of Illusion..
then creating the reality we want..with God MOther and Father..with Respect and Love for ALL..

there is no where to go..but within to your higherSelf to your OverSoul to GOD..
to know your spirit.. the you-of-you..the diamond that holds all the facets. ...

Know Thyself..

Love and Respect for ALL. ...

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