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salome
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posted May 13, 2006 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for salome     Edit/Delete Message
my belief as of the last decade or so, has situated honesty and truth, at all times, in all matters, as of supreme importance. i have striven to maintain as honest a disposition as possible...at times though, little white lies have escaped my countenance, eluded the ever ready radar i had constantly on the lookout for such things...these i try to correct, or hold as an example of what to avoid next time.

because, as i well know, lying, just little lies, is such an easy habit....any time it behooves you, it might seem, to fudge a little, in your daily interactions...you just do....or i did, and i know it took a concentrated, diligent effort to make myself always tell the truth, even if it cast me in a less than desirable light....and to go back and correct any little lie that did manage to pass my lips.

i have read as well that lying causes rips and tears in the aura...that if one treads a spiritual path, and endeavors to raise his or her vibration, that lying is a sure way to keep one's frequency pulsing at a lower rate...in muddier waters, so to speak. so i have thus made the effort...

however, as of late, i have found myself in a precarious position, surrounded with duplicity and ill intentions...and i have found that telling the truth, esp in matters necessary to keep private...i have determined that lying about certain things is a necessary action...in my thinking.

having turned this notion in every direction in my thoughts, i simply do not see a way to avoid doing so, without undermining my position. and at first it was very difficult to do so...heart beating so fast i thought it would burst from my chest...blood filling my face and lungs...almost so that i couldnt breathe...

to the point that i practice now, telling a lie, to be able to do so more smoothly, and without such a physical reaction. i've been scrupulous, however, not to do so with just anyone, just in the most dire of circumstances...

yet, i can't help but wonder, did i give up too easily? wouldnt the real test of spiritual fortitude require that i maintain my honesty even, and most especially, in the most trying of situations?

i honestly cannnot see my way around this one. i am on the verge of attempting to rectify the lies that i've told, and right my path again in the light...although i feel instinctively that this would sabotage my efforts, that doing so could only hurt my current position.

or would doing so place my position in the hands of a higher authority, so that my path would take me above the obstacles i see in my way at present? would a higher vibration protect me, or render protection unnecessary, were i to change course, and remain on the path of the brightest light?

what is the true of nature of a lie?

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Mannu
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posted May 13, 2006 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
Well, what was past is past. If you have hurt people because of the past then you might go and ammend it. If the people that is hurt is really evolved, he would have really forgotten the hurt you caused. They do not attach themselves to feelings of sorrow or joy for long.

Well you are the better judge of what really needs to be changed in the past.

What is true and lie? Its the same as what is you and what is your shadow? You fear your shadow. The lie is fear of truth.
Truth is something that gives you total peace. It is experienced, when you surrender to your higher self. When you realize that the concept of you itself is a lie? We have forgotten that human life is a gift from God. Suddenly theres a rush of infinite joy when this memory returns.
[You have been eating sugar for so long that you have forgotten the taste of honey - Paraphrasing from the movie Scent of a Woman ]


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salome
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posted May 13, 2006 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for salome     Edit/Delete Message
hi Mannu

that was a beautiful response...thank you.

i'm really talking about the present. i've been lying recently to protect myself and my son, or such is my thinking. and i feel that i must continue to do so.

i don't believe these lies have hurt anyone. i most certainly would avoid that at all costs...however, i'm not sure that they havent hurt me...and, yes, by engaging in a level of dishonesty, they do have an impact on the interaction with the other person involved, perhaps on a more subtle soul level.

blessings and love,
salome

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Mannu
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posted May 13, 2006 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know much detail about whats going on. But it appears to me that your mother instincts are trying to protect your child.
In my opinion they are never wrong, so don't worry much. That is intuition, a motherly/womanly quality is never wrong.
Reasoning (Masculine qualtities) can go wrong if the basic assumptions is wrong. But intuition , never.

Cheers.

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salome
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posted May 14, 2006 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for salome     Edit/Delete Message
intuition originates with the bond between
mama and babe.

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DancingStar
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posted May 15, 2006 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DancingStar     Edit/Delete Message
I agree that being truthful is important to our well being. I also feel however that certain things should be kept private and in that case all you have to do is say that you don't feel comfortable sharing whatever it is. It is not lying if you let the person know you need your privacy on certain issues. People may see you as mysterious but anyone who has chosen the spiritual way knows how necessary it is to keep certain things to yourself and will understand.

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salome
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posted May 15, 2006 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for salome     Edit/Delete Message
thank you for that wise answer Dancing Star. it helped me see a way of opening my heart and mind.

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Mannu
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posted May 15, 2006 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
I have also heard about two types of personalities exhibited by all humans. One shown public and the other shown to itself.

Guess which is true? Well most will say the inner personality is true but the answer is neither is true. The true you is what you appear to your higher self (God).

So the next question is once we know this true , how must we live in the present? Answer: By being aware, all the time, spontaneously.

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salome
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posted May 15, 2006 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for salome     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
how must we live in the present? Answer: By being aware, all the time, spontaneously.

indeed.

kinda reminds me of that old mystic Tolstoy...

love 'n light, salome

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raihs
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posted May 30, 2006 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raihs     Edit/Delete Message
yesterday's gone, tomorrow's not here today is a gift....that's why it's called the present!

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