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posted June 05, 2006 05:06 PM         

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Well,
Whether there is a bloodline or not...time will tell perhaps.
But for those of us who believe in reincarnation, there is a BIG difference between a physical bloodline and a soul connection.
Any descendents would be genetic only. Nothing here to do with the souls coming in.
Any soul of any type can enter into a physical bloodline. Were all royals in previous lives always royals?
I think not.
So while the idea of a "holy" genetic bloodline is popular, and some folks do hope for it to be so...
Well the physical/genetic is just a biological NOT a soul "bloodline".
As far as the "missing" years...MANY theories abound on that issue.

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posted June 05, 2006 10:36 PM         

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Wow!..well the soul-Spirit would know where to go for the bloodline..and the bloodline will be proven..for I have seen this..their blood has been preserved..along with the Emerald Tablets..

and it has not been preserved through any religion or cult. ...

Love and Respect for ALL..

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posted June 06, 2006 03:32 AM         

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I do not believe in preserving the royal bloodline too? Preserving the soul/spirit line is more important to me.

Da Vinci may have been comfortable with his feminine side. Although he was very secretive in nature I wonder what he was trying to convey from his bold implications.
From what I understand he was a man born ahead of his time and must have loathed the stupidity of people around him.

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posted June 06, 2006 09:06 AM         

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D for Defiant
You are welcome.
Well, I have only read LGs' Sun Signs and Love Signs. Both excellent books. Glanced at the others which did nothing for me.
And yes, we are all of God the same as Jesus(Yeshua). A body is a body. A vessel for a soul to experience being human in.

Mannu!
Yes! The soul lines are what matters! The physical is just that, biological/genetic, same for everyone.
Yes, DaVinci was indeed in touch with his feminine nature and loathed the fools around him. He had to be more cryptic than he wanted to with his Quatrains or risk persecution and worse, possible execution like many great minds did about his time.

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~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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posted June 06, 2006 03:47 PM         

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Hi Fayte

Are we not contradicting ourselves? What if one of soul/spirit is eternal? Why wud they need to procreate? So do we really require a flesh cloth? Can a soul or spirit die, just as a star such as our own sun is in danger of dying. Is that why Jesus may have made love to Magdalene? The gnostic bible speaks only of Jesus kissing Mary on the lip. Is he procreating spiritually only by that?

Just a thought.

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posted June 08, 2006 06:37 AM         

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Interesting.

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posted June 08, 2006 08:15 AM         

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Mannu
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Are we not contradicting ourselves?
ME:
No.
Mannu:
What if one of soul/spirit is eternal?
ME:
It is, the energy is. The identity can be deleted/erased. But what a waste!
Mannu:
Why would they need to procreate? So do we really require a flesh cloth?
ME:
To keep the physical species going, to supply vessels for reincarnating souls.
More learning can be done in the physical realm with its limitations imposed by the physical than can be learned in the non physical. At this point in time, yes, the flesh suits are needed to better facilitate growth and learning.
Mannu:
Can a soul or spirit die, just as a star such as our own sun is in danger of dying.
ME:
The pure soul energy cannot die. It has no identity, it is only energy.
When an aura and identity are attached to this pure identiless energy, it become a conscious complete soul. So technically a soul cannot die but an identity can be erased.
Our sun? Do you feel the sun has a soul? A consciousness?
Mannu:
Is that why Jesus may have made love to Magdalene?
ME:
No. They were two human people, a man and a woman, doing what comes naturally to people in love or grieving. So no matter what you believe about their souls, they were bodily human with normal human desires and needs and reactions to things. Did they not eat and drink wine? It would not stop there. Nowhere does it say anything to the contrary, to my knowledge. In fact there are many implications for intimacy.
Mannu:
The Gnostic bible speaks only of Jesus kissing Mary on the lip. Is he procreating spiritually only by that?
ME:
Why would it need spelled out? Do we need it to say they had sexual intercourse? Of course not. In some ways that could be seen as an invasion of their privacy.
I suspect it was said, but the various scribes "cleaned" the stories up to try to make them appear not as human as others. Makes for a nice neat story. Same for spiritual procreation. If one had spiritual procreation the child would not be a physical child.
Like the family tree "cleaners". An ancestor dies by hanging for a crime. It is listed in the family history as he died of neck troubles. An of course all shootings were accidents! And same for suicides.

Hope I made sense.

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posted June 08, 2006 12:58 PM         

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>>>>Our sun? Do you feel the sun has a soul? A consciousness?

I believe every atom has consciousness.
Richard Fayne the famous Australian scientist seems to have said the same.

Science is still struggling with how does energy recirculate. That is when a star dies and a black hole forms where does the energy go and how does the energy reappear (if it does)? Well thats cutting edge and I am behind with the mundane work I do these days

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Also as per your theory there is always energy present everywhere. Whats your opinion on Nothing. Do you think theres nothing called Nothing, because if there is nothing then if there is something, it must have come from Something and not Nothing..... hahahaha....

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A Nothing Perceived, is by that act of being Percieved, in Essence, Becomes, or is indeed a Something.

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~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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posted June 09, 2006 01:58 AM         

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Mannu,

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Do you think theres nothing called Nothing, because if there is nothing then if there is Something, it must have come from Something and not Nothing..... hahahaha

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Busy at the moment but will reply to this.....

Shootings being accidents..
I was referring to the family history "cleanups", changing the story to make it sound nicer.
Like a murder of one brother of another being changed in the family history to a tragic accident when it was really murder.
Or a person being hanged for a crime, but being written in the family history book as having died of just some vague kind of "neck" trouble.

As to making love during grief.
The easiest way for me to explain that is my own experiences. I was grieving once. I was in the arms of a dear friend, being comforted.
The hugs and crying led to kissing... and all that pent up grief was released in a torrent that expressed itself sexually. It was not about having sex. It was about that need to be intense. To let go completely and purge the grief.
I hope that made sense.

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The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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No it is not an invasion of my privacy. I met this person in 1969. The "comforting" happened many years later. We have been very close friends since 1969, and still are since that time I needed to feel safe to let go and purge my grief with a trusted dear friend. The episode only happened once. It was a special thing. Sacred and pure.
That special moment was a turning point in my life that I am so very grateful for.
I cherish it as the singular but precious thing it was.
A song here can explain it in some ways, even though it is told from a man's point of view.

Kris Kristofferson - Help Me Make It Through The Night Lyrics

Take the ribbon from your hair, shake it loose and let it fall,
Layin’ soft upon my skin. like the shadows on the wall.

Come and lay down by my side till the early morning light
All I’m takin’ is your time. help me make it through the night.
I don’t care what’s right or wrong, I don’t try to understand.
Let the devil take tomorrow. lord, tonight I need a friend.

Yesterday is dead and gone and tomorrow’s out of sight.
And it’s sad to be alone. help me make it through the night.

I don’t care what’s right or wrong, (yes, I do !)
I don’t try to understand.
Let the devil take tomorrow. lord, tonight I need a friend.

Yesterday is dead and gone and tomorrow’s out of sight.
Lord, it’s bad to be alone. help me make it through the night.

Reincarnation thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001432.html
Uni-versal Codes
Who were You?

I read "Many Lives, Many Masters" years ago.
Transmigration of souls? No I do not buy that theory. Animals stay animals, humans stay human. There are exceptions of course as a species becomes extinct the souls can then move into the next compatable bioform.
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~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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Thank you! D for Defiant
I agree with you also.

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The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
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