posted June 13, 2006 02:55 AM         

people who extract the worst elements of your being from you?

is this your soul, or higher s-elf, or some spiritual entity attempting to show you something to yourself?

is it a reflection of you?

how does one transcend these influences in one's life, and rise to a different level of being?

i've tried several, and such different paths....and i keep moving in circles....

what can i do to engender genuine, loving, real meaning amongst people in my life?

how do i go about effecting this? i'm at such a tremendous loss....kindness matters so much....

where...how...is to be found??

posted June 13, 2006 07:12 AM         

Keep smiling..and feel and generate Love to these people..eventually..you will over come the negative..get stronger and stronger..

forgive and Love. ...

posted June 13, 2006 05:06 PM         

but at times i ponder this perspective ~

if you feel that you must forgive someone, does that mean that you perceive yourself as a victim? perhaps seeing the situation in a different light, and not falling victim to a 'victim mentality'.....well, it's thought provoking anyway...

seeing people as 'having done things to you', rather than seeing yourself as a responsible participant in the scenario of your life....well, i wonder sometimes....

do i have to forgive myself, or simply learn to accept myself, and to try to be more aware? does goddess really need to forgive me -- doesn't she love me just as i am? i think so.

some thoughts that traverse my cerebral landscape...

love, salome

posted June 13, 2006 07:52 PM         

I hope what I said helps..I have a scar between my eyes..from my X..I see it everyday..I have forgiven..even though he has not changed..I pray..that he will find his way..and only wish the best for him. ...

posted June 13, 2006 09:36 PM         

but i spose my question is more about re-directing the path of my life...escaping this cycle of constant dysfunctional interaction with most of the people i find myself involved with.

where do i look, how do i begin....?

how do i raise my vibration and life to one of healthy and happy interaction with the people i find myself together with...fostering growth, love, support, discovery....regeneration and renewal...in a constant and ongoing fashion?

in what way may i find the answer to ending the dismal cycle in my life of finding myself amidst ill-meaning and destructive relationships?

posted June 13, 2006 09:45 PM         

See the colors..that are always there..We are Our Spirit..OverSoul..to HigherSelf Mind..we are in control..we make the choices..with Free Will..

How we accept our Being..and how we progress..as always been within..

Oh Salome..pray..ask and you shall receive..BElieve..and it will be..
the answers will come..and with that
strength to carry One..for Love..
First Mates(twinSouls) and
Peace on Earth. ...

You are so close..it's always darkest before the Dawn..

Chin Up..Gods' Light and Love is shining down on U..feel it..absorb it..BE it!

you get what you give..give Love
for surely it shall re-turn to U

and U and U . ...

I am sending you so much Love and Light..

posted June 15, 2006 01:55 AM         

This post caught my attn. I have wondered why I, a loving, giving & devoted person, always manage to find the most disfunctional people to give my heart to.

I haven't dated in a few years cuz I have "victim" written on my forehead. I kept wondering how "like attracts like" when I keep attracting users (friends,family or men.) After reading all that was said, I think I get it.

I have a great capasity to give my energy to others, but not to myself. That is an unhealthy additude. Health begets health, and unhealthy does the same.

I have been trying to learn how to create the positive energy that will attract healthy people & love/energy for myself. I have found a few clues from this site, and the messages I feed myself. Someone told me recently that when I feel unworthy, or I can't do something I want to (or need to), say to my brain-shut up! I keep repeating things like: I am healthy; my brain is catching up to that fact. "Just Do It". I can do anything I put my mind to... The trick is catching myself in a neg thought to counter it.

Thanks for the topic. I will send prayers for you. I know the pos energy will help us both.

posted June 15, 2006 12:57 PM         

when we were in Heaven,..before chosing this life that we would live now..we got to view many different..ones..and chose the one..that would suit US best for our Lessons..and Evolement..

we are always learning..the harder the path..the faster the learning..for pain and hardship..make you wonder and search for Truth..the Truth has always been within..each of US..to remember why..past lives..and to accept this life..and it's purpose..to undertake to do everything with LOve. ...

I am smiling and very Happy mOst of the time..hehe..once a month..those darn hormones..make me very emotional..

this stops the negative..you do not have to absorb it..you can neutralize it..and not let it affect you..by giving LOve..in ReTurn. ...
it gets easier with practice..but I can say..that people often comment to me..even on a daily basis..that I radiate GOodness..that I brighten a room..that when they see me..they actually start to smile..

Gosh..when they say things like that..I melt..and I feel all the LOve..and that makes you so strong..to realize the Goodness..that lies in each and everyOne of US. ...

Glad you're hear Kim..

posted June 16, 2006 03:40 AM         

I am a bit confused.

Quote:
this stops the negative..you do not have to absorb it..you can neutralize it..and not let it affect you..by giving LOve..in ReTurn. ...
it gets easier with practice.

I thought I was giving love in return Can you be more specific? Should I keep draining people in my life & practice unconditional love? Don't I need to learn to love myself first? Where does the love energy come from?

posted June 16, 2006 07:03 AM         

let's see if I can explain better..
Yes..you must LOve yourSelf first..otherwise you could not LOve anyOne else correclty..it would be co-dependent..
how you re-act to how people treat you..is laways up tp you..you can let it bother you..or roll off of you,,your choice..
then you can also still give Love..to towards the negative..to balance it..and help

The God Source is within..Mind to HigherSelf to OverSoul..to God..we exist here..in body and Mind..while our Soul..is always in Heaven..as above so below..
Now to Live with that knowledge and know..the connection..thus you have brought Heaven to Earth..through your OwnSelf..in this realization..God is always within..and always has been..and you never die..for truly..your SoulOver is the you..of YOu..the One of knowledge..

I hope this helps..off to work..
Later....

posted June 16, 2006 09:35 AM         

Salome, I think this is a really intresting thrread. One that we can all learn from. Let me knoe what you think.

OK, so this is my recent stoty which I was thinking of posting as its own thread, bur I am always a little shy, but when I can post in context, then thats a totally different ball game. I was on this bus right, and I sat next to a fairly attractive girl - a person that struck me immediately as one of "the popular" girls, I've alwats tried to escape labels and stigma, and hance you could call me a nerd Anyhow, this girl taught me a massive lesson about who I am. What she did was, she moved away from me. I never intentionally touch people on buses right, but don't mind if they touch me. Some people seem to maintain brushing the whole way, and some barely scrape a few times. Anyhow, this girl was the first to move away, like I had something. I had to move closer to allow someone to walk past me, and she almost fell out the window. Now, this might seem a rediculously stupid anecdote, but what I learnt was this: victims recieve negativity because they have a weakness. In this story, I am the victim that she was somehow taking energy from. Really, the event didn't phase me in the slightest, but I learnt this lesson. I am a 12 person right, and always wondered how I am a victim. In the past it was very noticable, but over the last 4 years I feel on top of the world, so am I still a victim? I learnt that yes, I am, but only mentally. I allow people to see my weakness and to exploit it without my knowledge. My sensitivity in the above tale is my achiles heel. Does this weakness make me strong? YES! I can view people from the way they treat me. I can filter unwanted attention as I feel it. Very difficult when its your family, but awareness is everything. Awareness allows you to learn from everything, and become stronger. To ignore is to be ignorant - to continue on the same path. You need to realise when people are trying to steal from you, and either let then, or move on. Either way, they can be beneficial learning experiences.

posted June 16, 2006 04:01 PM         

I've heard similar bits & pieces here & there, but I guess I'm at a place where I can put it together & put it into practice (and I do mean practice).

So basically, I need to keep a strong or constant contact with God, higher power, the universe... to let the energy flow. Then I need to be aware of the world around me, & learn to be able to deal with any situation accordingly using the knowledge to continue the growth & sharpen the senses

I can learn to love & forgive myself first, then others whether I choose to have them in my life or not have them in my life. I can also protect my sensitive nature from those who try to hurt me. Perceptions are my choice as are actions & energy flow (pos. or neg.).

What has been said really does help me clarify how I can protect myself, and improve my connection to God, myself & others.

This is a great thread; the topic was much needed. Thank you all.

"When the student is ready the teacher will appear".

posted June 16, 2006 04:15 PM         

all the people in my life certainly do not fit the description of this thread. i've been luckier than most in my interactions with these great individuals.

i requested that Sesame delete this thread because of its negative implications.

i suppose if it serves a purpose though that sesame will keep it here.

wishing love and light to everyone...

and adding that my gratitude and love for everyone who has touched my life, in whatever way, is tremendous, in that they are all part of me.

posted June 16, 2006 05:09 PM         

I too have people in my life that bring tons of goodies to the buffet, but at times & with some people I feel as you stated.

I think, like Lotus said, that sometimes we forget or missed a piece of the puzzle.

I don't think this thread had negative implications that would warrent deletion. We all get down now & then; that is why we try to give a hand up or learn a new concept. When we hurt it's hard to see or state the pos. I heard you venting & looking for some guidance or maybe just an ear.

It just so happened that I too was feeling the same or similar.

posted June 16, 2006 07:23 PM         

So much Love to EveryOne. ...

posted June 16, 2006 08:40 PM         

Not sure if this clarified anything, or created more mud

Heaps of Love,
Dean.

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I realized it for the first time in my life:
there is nothing but mystery in the world,
how it hides behind the fabric of our poor,
browbeat days, shining brightly, and we don't even know it.

Sue Monk Kidd, "The Secret Life of Bees", p79