posted August 25, 2006 05:50 PM         

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They came to earth millions of years ago to spread the poison of hatred, war and catastrophe... They are still with us... Human history is a seemingly endless succession of bloody conflicts and devastating turmoil. Yet, inexplicably, in the light of astonishing intellectual and technological advancement, Man's progress has been halted in one crucial area: he still indulges the primitive beast within and makes war upon his neighbors.

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Furthermore, in his research, Bramley points to Sumerian texts that explain that humans were created by these "gods" to be slaves to the gods. Here is his basic thesis:

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Human beings appear to be a slave race languishing on an isolated planet in a small galaxy. As such, the human race was once a source of labor for an extraterrestrial civilization and still remains a possession today. To keep control over its possession and to maintain Earth as something of a prison, that other civilization has bred never-ending conflict between human beings, has promoted human spiritual decay, and has erected on Earth conditions of unremitting physical hardship. This situation has existed for thousands of years and it continues today. [18]

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Bramley refers to these alleged ET controllers as the "Custodians," and he views them as the ultimate source of the most deep-seated and perplexing evils that affect humanity. However, like all the rest, Bramley identifies Enki as a uniquely positive figure and as a "renegade" Custodian who has always tried to help mankind. This, despite the fact that Sumerian records state that Enki is the god who created mankind to serve as slaves in the first place. In fact, in the Sumerian language the word for "worship," avod, is the very same word used for "work." [19]

Sitchin and his immediate followers all view the ancient gods, as well as the modern UFO phenomenon, as visitations of physical entities whose origin is from other planets or galaxies. Dr. Jacques Vallee is a French-born scientist who has studied UFOs all his life and is one of the most highly-respected members of the ufological community. Vallee understands the "extra-terrestrial" premise that underlies so much of UFO research, but he disagrees with it completely. For Vallee, however, the entities that so many researchers refer to as "extra-terrestrial" are more properly described as "extra-dimensional." In other words, they are not purely physical beings, but are better understood as primarily spiritual. In his book Messengers of Deception, Vallee wrote that "what we see in effect here is not an alien invasion. It is a control system which acts on humans and uses humans." In his book Dimensions Vallee elaborates on this hypothesis:

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I propose that there is a spiritual control system for human consciousness and that paranormal phenomena like UFOs are one of its manifestations. I cannot tell whether this control is natural and spontaneous; whether it is explainable in terms of genetics, of social psychology, or of ordinary phenomena—or if it is artificial in nature, under the power of some superhuman will. It may be entirely determined by laws that we have not yet discovered. [20]

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If indeed the ancient "gods" are manipulating and controlling human consciousness from other dimensions then we can expect Enki to be playing a major role in this ongoing program. But is his role positive, as the Sumerians and modern New Age authors assure us, or is he the Great Deceiver and the greatest enemy of both God and man, as Judeo-Christian traditions have
warned from the beginning?
(Goodment 4,5)

Silverstone

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posted August 25, 2006 05:55 PM         

following a false evil God..the beast within..the dark side that each one of us carries...

This is the World of Illusion..

we are all one. ...

There is Only One true God. . .

RE-MEMBER

posted August 25, 2006 06:42 PM         

Gnostics hold that the world is flawed because it was created in a flawed manner. By beginning with the fundamental recognition that earthly life is filled with suffering, it becomes evident that all forms of life are living in a world which is flawed and absurd.

Gnostics blame the world’s failings not on humans, but on the creator. “Since -- especially in the monotheistic religions -- the creator is God, this Gnostic position appears blasphemous, and is often viewed with dismay even by non-believers.”

“The ancient Greeks, especially the Platonists, advised people to look to the harmony of the universe, so that by venerating its grandeur they might forget their immediate afflictions. But since this harmony still contains the cruel flaws, forlornness and alienation of existence, this advice is considered of little value by Gnostics.

“Nor is the Eastern idea of Karma regarded by Gnostics as an adequate explanation of creation’s imperfection and suffering. Karma at best can only explain how the chain of suffering and imperfection works. It does not inform us in the first place why such a sorrowful and malign system should exist.”

Of particular importance is the Gnostic concept of God, which unites and reconciles the recognitions of monotheism and polytheism, as well as of theism, deism, pantheism, and quite possibly humorism(?). Maybe even fundamentalism. Or just Ismism.

Gnostics believe there is a true, ultimate and transcendent God, a being who is beyond all created universes and who never created anything in the sense in which the word ‘create’ is ordinarily understood. Instead this God ‘emanated’ or brought forth from within Himself the substance of all there is in all the worlds, visible and invisible. However, much of the original divine essence has since been projected from their source and in the process has undergone some distinctly unwholesome changes in the process.

This process of change involves, in Gnostic myth, the existence of Aeons, “intermediate deific beings who exist between the ultimate, True God and ourselves. They, together with the True God, comprise the realm of Fullness (Pleroma) wherein the potency of divinity operates fully.”

Silverstone

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posted August 25, 2006 06:46 PM         

They created themselves in human form..of themselves and the Universe..
what has happened here
is what we have created

we cannot blame our maker..
for our mistakes..
for the laws were given
and we broke them

posted August 25, 2006 06:46 PM         

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This is the World of Illusion..

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The Buddhists had it right all along, this World is an Illusion.

Silverstone~

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posted August 25, 2006 06:53 PM         

Quote:
"we cannot blame our maker..
for our mistakes..."

The Gnostics blame the world’s failings not on humans... well, we were given free will. I think in many instances humans want someone to blame.

Silverstone~

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posted August 25, 2006 07:04 PM         

According to theories Humans are generally ignorant of the divine spark resident within them. This ignorance is fostered in human nature by the influence of the false creator and his Archons, who together are intent upon keeping men and women ignorant of their true nature and destiny. Anything that causes us to remain attached to earthly things serves to keep us in enslavement to these lower cosmic rulers. Death releases the divine spark from its lowly prison, but if there has not been a substantial work of Gnosis undertaken by the soul prior to death, it becomes likely that the divine spark will be hurled back into, and then re-embodied within, the pangs and slavery of the physical world. [emphasis added]

This aspect of Gnosticism is critically important, in that its description of “archons” is plausibly a direct reference to the Anunnaki, with Enlil being “the evil god of this world (who is identified with the god of the Old Testament) and Enki being the “higher more abstract God revealed by Jesus”

Silverstone~

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posted August 25, 2006 07:11 PM         

connected and waiting to meet in the Middle

posted August 25, 2006 07:22 PM         

According to the ancient Sumerian texts, the Sumerian god, Anu, the “supreme Lord of the Sky”, the currently reigning titular head of the Sumerian Family Tree, had two sons. They were Enki (Ea), Lord of the Earth and Waters (whose mother was Antu), and Enlil (Ilu), Lord of the Air and Lord of the Command (whose mother was Ki). These two half-brothers -- surprise, surprise -- did not get along.

Critical to their rivalry -- particularly from Earth’s viewpoint -- was the fact that Enki had been the first of the Anunnaki to hazard a trip to Earth to begin a mining operation for gold. When this effort did not apparently produce gold in sufficient quantities, Enlil was brought in, given command, and armed with a new plan (an early version of the New Deal). The revised program was to mine gold from deep mines in the Earth.

According to Sumerian texts (as detailed in Genesis of the Grail Kings [1]), during a visit by their father, Anu (the archetypal absentee landlord), the Anunnaki made a decision:

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“The gods had clasped their hands together,
Had cast lots and had divided.
Anu then went up to heaven.
To Enlil the Earth was made subject.
The seas, enclosed as with a loop,
They had given to Enki, the Prince of Earth.”

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Sounds fair; however, moreover, as Laurence Gardner illustrates:

“Enki was not happy about his brother’s promotion because, although Enlil was the elder of the two, his mother (Ki) was Anu’s junior sister, whereas Enki’s mother (Antu) was the senior sister. True kingship, claimed Enki, progressed as a matrilineal institution through the female line, and by this right of descent Enki maintained that he was the first born of the royal succession.”

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“I am the great brother of the gods.
I am he who has been born as the first son of the divine Anu.”

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If there is a philosophy of Enki, it manifests and explains itself in early Mesopotamian and Egyptian thought, where the true creator of the universe was manifest within nature, and that nature enveloped both the Anunnaki, and the humans. Nature, as the Great Mother, was still supreme, despite any patriarchal scheme to the contrary. Admittedly, Enki’s claim of his birthright, the one being based on a matrilineal succession -- essentially the mitochondria DNA link, which is wholly passed through the female line -- was in Enki’s best interests. But Enki was also the maternal grandfather who came to the aid of Inanna when things went badly during her Descent into the Underworld.

With the arrival of Enlil, however, who in his best interests must demean the matriarchal line of succession, and thus nature itself -- everything changed. The Great Mother was dethroned and replaced by a supreme male (as opposed to a male consort for the Queen). The idea of cooperation -- as exemplified by the council of Anunnaki making cooperative decisions -- was quickly replaced by competition, and harmony was forsaken in favor of subservience. The supreme god became abstract, and any physical connection with human or nature was lost -- and thus the link between nature and human also destroyed. When Enlil hit town, there was a whole new deal put into effect.

According to Laurence Gardner [1], “The dominant tenet of the new thought was based wholly on the utmost fear of Enlil, who was known to have instigated the great Flood [or else acquiesced in not warning the humans, or making any attempt to save them], and to have facilitated the invasion and destruction of civilized Sumer. Here was a deity who spared no mercy for those who did not comply with his dictatorial authority.

“Abraham had experienced the vengeful Enlil first hand at the fall of Ur, and he was not about to take any chances with his own survival. He was even prepared to sacrifice the life of his young son, Isaac, to appease the implacable God (Genesis 32:9).” “The oriental scholar Henri Frankfort summarized the situation by making the point that... ‘Those who served Jehovah must forego the richness, the fulfillment, and the consolation of a life which moves in tune with the great rhythms of the earth and sky.”

Bramley [3] has noted that, “We therefore find Ea [Enki] as the reputed culprit who tried to teach early man (Adam) the way to spiritual freedom. This suggests that Ea intended his creation, Homo sapiens, to be suited for Earth labor, but at some point he changed his mind about using spiritual enslavement as a means.”

From a Biblical perspective, it was Enki who (with the critical assistance of his half-sister, Ninki, aka Nin-khursag) created Adam and Eve. It was Enlil, on the other hand, who created “Edin”. Enki was the serpent in the garden, who urged Adam and Eve to eat of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil (which was infinitely beneficial to their spiritual growth). It was Enlil, who drove them out of Edin, while Enki was there to clothe them. It is worth noting that Zecharia Sitchin [2] claims that the biblical word for “snake” is nahash, which comes from the root word NHSH, and which denotes “to decipher, to find out.” In other words, Enki, the God of Wisdom.

In the time of Noah, it was Enlil who either created the Great Deluge/Flood as a means of wiping out mankind (because they supposedly made too much noise), or else refused to warn the humans or do anything to save them or help them to save themselves. Enki, on the other hand, apparently against orders of the Anunnaki (who Enlil now controlled), provided the boat plans for Noah to build his Ark, and thus save him, his family (and likely a fair number of helpful artisans and their families). Enki included as well the seed of other living things (a “natural” kind of thing to do).

In the Sumerian texts, we have the stories of Enki and Enlil, and for the most part there is portions devoted to each. But in Genesis, Enlil seemingly reigns supreme. Enlil knew early on, that a pound of good Public Relations effort is worth a ton of truth.

Abraham and his descendants served Enlil, and followed his precepts. The Egyptians, on the other hand, were Enki’s protégés, and based on food management practices during the devastating droughts around the time of Jacob and Joseph, were doing a lot better than Enlil’s followers. Obviously Noah backed the right horse in that Enki shared boat plans with the righteous fellow -- whom Enlil later claimed as his own.

But at one point, circa 2000 B.C.E., all hell broke loose. In an all out war of Enki’s humans against Enlil’s humans -- complete with all manner of diplomatic subterfuge in the mix -- Sodom and Gomorrah took the brunt of the action and were destroyed. By nuclear weaponry! They were A-bombed. The decision for this, however, was not, as you might have expected, due to Enlil’s instigation. Instead, it was due to the actions of his sons, Ninurta and Ningal. The (radioactive) fallout of their actions then resulted in the final destruction of the Sumerian civilization (circa 2000 B.C.E.). Curiously, this event in the Annals of Earth turned out to be something of a Waterloo for Enlil. Not that the guy (dba “God”) fled the scene, but thereafter, the idea of unilateral actions was a bit more constrained. Enlil was no longer the undisputed Lord of the Command among his peers.

Which might be just as well. As Laurence Gardner [1] phrased it: “This muddled and unparalleled concept of Jehovah being right when he was wrong, honest when he was dishonest, was born out of an inherent fear of his vengeful power and unbounded wrath. Whether as Jehovah (in Genesis) or as Enlil (in Mesopotamian record) it was he who had instigated the Semitic invasions which led to the ‘confusion of tongues’ and the fall of Sumer. It was he who had brought about the devastating Flood, and it was he who had leveled the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah -- not because of their wickedness, as related in Genesis (18-19), but because of the wisdom and insight of their inhabitants, as depicted in the Coptic Paraphrase of Shem. It was Jehovah who had removed the Israelites from their homeland and sending them into seventy years of captivity by King Nebuchadnezzar II and his five Babylonian successors down to King Belshazzer (545-539 BC).”

This latter event is critical as another turning point in the Enki and Enlil warfare, as it reflects a time, circa 600 B.C.E., when Enlil was stepping back from the overt control of Earth. (A fact which does not necessarily imply stepping back from covert control!)

Zecharia Sitchin [2] has taken a different, decidedly pro-Jehovah, pro-Enlil approach in his writings. While admitting to the complicity of Enlil’s sons in the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, Sitchin tends to blame the female (i.e. Inanna) for seducing King Shulgi of Ur (and thus destroying a once thriving civilization). Sitchin also charges Enki’s son, Marduk, who became the Babylonian god, with being perhaps the prime culprit of all the bad news that was extant in what Sitchin refers to as “The Fateful Century” (2123 - 2023). At one point in his book, The Wars of God and Men, Sitchin writes: “There was great jubilation in the land when the great temple was rededicated to Enlil and Ninlil [Enlil’s wife], in the year 1953 B.C.E.; it was only then that the cities of Sumer and Akkad were officially declared habitable again.”

And just guess who was responsible for their being uninhabitable in the first place!?

To appreciate the continuing sage of Enki versus Enlil, it is instructive to note their place in the Sumerian Family Tree, aka the “Grand Assembly of the Anunnaki”.

Marduk (who would become the god of the Babylonians) was Enki’s first born, and that of Enki’s wife, the goddess Damkina. Enki’s other wife was his half-sister, Nin-khursag (meaning “Mountain Queen”), the Lady of Life, also known as Nin-mah, the Great Lady.

Enlil was also espoused to Nin-khursag and their son was Ninurta (Ningirsu), the Mighty Hunter. By another wife, Ninlil (Sud), Enlil had a second son, Nanna (Suen), known as the Bright One. Nanna and his wife, Ningal, were the parents of Inanna (who was called Ishtar by the Babylonians), and who married the Shepherd King Dumu-zi (the latter given in the Semitic Old Testament book of Ezekiel 8:14 as Tammuz).

Another son of Enlil and Ninlil was Nergal (Meslamtaea), King of the Underworld. He married Eresh-kigal, the Queen of the Netherworld, the daughter of Nanna and Ningal (i.e. Inanna’s sister), and the mother of Lilith (who became handmaiden to Inanna, her maternal aunt). Lilith is also notorious as the first wife of Adam, but it was Lilith who rejected him (and thus incurred the wrath of every reject-worthy male on the planet).

By some accounts, Inanna was also the granddaughter of Enki (as well as Enlil). This strange situation was critical in Inanna’s classic tale of her Descent into the Underworld. (I.e. Enlil turned a blind eye, while Enki saved Inanna’s lovely little fanny.) Even more crucial to the plot was the fact that Inanna was also a favorite of the supreme Anu. Thus she was never, never at a loss as to what she thought she could do and get away with. Her story has been well told two books by Susan Ferguson: Inanna Returns and Inanna, Hyperluminal. (Ms. Ferguson does include Enki’s son, Marduk, as the bad guy, but on the other hand, keeps Enki as a favorite. She can do that. It’s her books.)

Speaking of Marduk, not only was he the arch-enemy of Inanna (thus explaining Susan’s plotting), but Marduk thoroughly angered just about everyone about him. Even his father, Enki, must have wondered where he went wrong in raising his first son -- a question not uncommon to any father. At the same time, it must be admitted, Marduk was without question a serious pain in the rear (and elsewhere) for Enlil, and thus Enki might have had moments of genuine pride.

Just as Enki may have been given temporary, overt control over the Earth during the Age of Pisces, Marduk, who was identified with the planet Mars, and thus the astrological sign of Aries, had assumed he would be in charge during the Age of Aries. Depending on the time allotted to each sign -- whether it is 1/12th, or more likely the actual time spent in the sign -- Marduk’s Age of Aries likely ran from roughly 2,000 B.C.E. to about 600 B.C.E. This was his time, therefore, and The Wars of Gods and Men told by Sitchin was in large part Marduk’s attempts to wrest control from Enlil, and the Anunnaki who supported the latter. The fact that it became a very messy war was not necessarily Marduk’s fault.

For the fact remains that, circa 1950 B.C.E., after Enlil’s son, Ninurta, had failed to rally the Anunnaki troops on his own behalf -- and thoroughly bombed on his venture to Sodom and Gomorrah -- Marduk finally got his chance.

“Lord Anu, lord of the gods who from Heaven came to Earth, and Enlil, lord of Heaven and Earth who determines the destinies of the land, Determined for Marduk, the firstborn of Enki, the Enlil-functions over all mankind; Made him great among the gods who watch and see, Called Babylon by name to be exalted, made it supreme in the world; And established for Marduk, in its midst, an everlasting kingship.”

Marduk, from Babylon, ultimately took vengeance on the Enlil supporters known as the Hebrews, who had opposed Marduk’s reign, and they thereafter spent seventy years in captivity. During this time, Enlil never raised a hand to assist them. In Enlil’s view, they were quite expendable. Obviously, someone -- unlike their ancestral patriarch, Noah, had failed to back the right horse.

For sometime (i.e. the Age of Aries), Marduk took over Enlil’s subjugation of the humans--politics of the slavery kind made strange bedfellows. But the Age of Aries (unlike the Age of Pisces) was mercifully short. And it had the decided advantage of prepping the Anunnaki for Enki’s take over about 600 B.C.E., when the Age of Pisces began.

Silverstone~

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posted August 25, 2006 07:35 PM         

some false...

Yikes!

posted August 25, 2006 08:23 PM         

Say that again? The guardian angel of the secret knowledge? Is not that the guardian of the Tree of Knowledge? Is not that the Serpent?

"WE ARE APT TO SHUT OUR EYES AGAINST A PAINFUL TRUTH...
FOR MY PART, I AM WILLING TO KNOW THE WHOLE TRUTH; TO KNOW THE
WORST; AND TO PROVIDE FOR IT." ---- Patrick Henry

Silverstone~

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posted August 25, 2006 08:38 PM         

"The truth will set you free, but first it will PI$$ you off."

posted August 25, 2006 08:39 PM         

ARRRR

posted August 25, 2006 08:51 PM         

"So, how does all this relate to Satan? Are you saying that Gnostics believed Jesus and Lucifer are somehow related?"

From a Gnostic-Egyptian standpoint, Jesus and Satan are end members of the same harmonic cycle. Like the Serpent of Egyptian mythology, they are duality in balance. Jesus said, "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end." Rev 21:6. In the Old Testament (Torah), "I am the Lord, and there is no other. I form light and create darkness, I make peace (weal) and create evil (woe), I am the Lord, who do all these things." Isa 45: 6-7. "I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god." Isa 44: 6.

When the Serpent bites its tail, it forms a circle or cycle, bringing its opposite ends together. This circular relationship, which is so heretical to a straight orthodoxy, can be expressed as a mathematical one:

Clues from Universal Harmonics Analysis:

Universal Harmonics Analysis is a method of decoding language to find the underlying Universal Order within the Whole. It is similar to Numerology, taking it to a higher level. The unique Diamond shape Math model (below) shows the relationship between any 2 or more subjects: that which they accomplish together, as well as the difference -- or that which needs to be balanced, as in unfinished business here on Earth.

CHRISTOS = PERFECTION = 111 = DNA TEMPLATE = HUMANITY

All four words/phrase resonate at the same UH frequency: 111.

DUALITY

Jesus = 74 = Lucifer
(10-5-19-21-19) = 74 = (12-21-3-9-6-5-18)
(Jesus/Lucifer are contractions of the fullness of GOD)

74 = 704 = 74

right handed left handed

Trinity: 7 + 0 + 4 = 11
(11 is a contraction of the fullness of the Trinity: 111)

Where 0 is the symbol for the Circle/Cycle and Alpha pi Omega.

10 = Isis and 11 = 10 + 1

10 is the symbol for Reproduction, and 1 is the Offspring.

Silverstone~

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posted August 25, 2006 09:00 PM         

Conjunction Conjunction..what's your function?

posted August 25, 2006 09:38 PM         

An Original Twist to an Old Sin

Many experts explain that the answer implied by the medical Caduceus, however, is that the Serpent represents Inserted DNA via genetic engineering through artificial conception. And what is the implication for Jesus? He too received a similar insertion of foreign (uncorrupted) DNA from the same extraterrestrial bloodline responsible for the "original sin." The "original sin" was not committed by Adam or Eve, or being born a woman, or being born a human, or being seduced by the Serpent in the Garden of Eden, but rather the intentional interference by an extraterrestrial race in the evolution of a humanoid life form on this planet, a violation of any Prime Directive and a certain qualification for the title, Fallen Angel. The double SS symbol is a direct reference to the DNA double helix. In the statue below the double SS is not only inverted, but also reversed.

From Rosslyn Chapel - a Templar legacy - Serpent rope backwards 'S's around fallen angel
(Wallace-Murphy, 1993)
left handed spiral

The best place to hide something is in plain view.

DNA of all life on this planet has a right-handed spiral. The implication of the medical Caduceus is for both a right-handed and a left-handed spiral.... The constant reference to Christ being at the Right Hand of God may in fact be a disguised reference to our DNA configuration, whereas the Serpent would be positioned at the Left Hand (side) of God. Wood (1986) thought that the Severed Hand myth referred to the Right Hand of the Goddess Isis, but if the Extended Pentagram is facing the observer, the Severed Hand would fall off her Left Hand, complementing the story of Lucifer and his Fallen Angels being cast down to Earth.

Note that the phrase 'being left handed' sometimes is meant as a reference to being deceptive.... If this was an intentional clue she was giving, it might have been an indirect reference to right- and left-handed isomers. Isomers are chemical compounds that have the same molecular formula. 'Isos' is Greek for 'equal', and 'Iso' is another name for Isis, implying equality. Left- and Right-handed DNA, if identical in molecular formula and connectivity, would be called StereoIsomers. They cannot be interconverted by rotation of bonds between atoms. If an isomeric difference exists between ET and human DNA, direct genetic reproduction between these species is impossible. Only through the mirror modification of the human genome in a laboratory could the transfer of ET genetic traits (not genes) be accomplished. A new human species would have to be created. It could be called a hybrid, but one where only a selected number of genes were added and/or modified. The alien abduction phenomenon and its surrogate mother counterpart that have received so much attention in the last decade or two may actually be an intentional revelation of this process, and an indication of how it worked in the past to create the Nephilim(Abdulla 93).

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posted August 25, 2006 09:46 PM         

Whose Sin: Nephilim or ET?

A persistent problem for both theologians and scientists has been the references to human-like beings called the "sons of God" (traditionally interpreted as angels), sent to Earth to mate with the daughters of men. The word used for their offspring is Nephilim, which in Hebrew means "fallen ones" or "his ones" or "those who fell." (In the King James version of the Bible, Nephilim is translated as "giants"). Authors such as Sitchin use this term for the "sons of God" or extraterrestrials, rather than for their children. The Genesis verses are ambiguous enough that either interpretation is arguable (Lewis, 1995). If the Talmud of Jmmanuel is correct, and Mary was impregnated by a distant descendant of the celestial son, Rasiel, then depending on how you interpret parents and offspring, Rasiel, his descendants, and Jesus all could be called Nephilim.

When men began to multiply on the face of the ground, and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were fair; and they took to wife such of them as they chose. Gen 6:1-2

The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men that were of old, men of renown. Gen 6:4

"According to Jewish legend, these fallen angels came from the ranks of the Grigori ("Watchers"), a superior order of angels whose proper place is either the 5th or 2nd heaven. They were said to look like human beings (except much larger), to never sleep, and to be forever silent. While there were both good and bad Grigori, most extant lore revolves around the evil Watchers who copulated with human women." (Lewis, 1995: p. 32).

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UFO, ALIENS, & ANTICHRIST
THE ANGELIC CONSPIRACY & END TIMES DECEPTION
"The Bible explains where Satan currently resides, and connects him with forces in the atmosphere. . . Paul says we wrestle not with flesh and blood, but with principalities and powers, with wicked spirits in high places, literally, "in the heavens" "in the aerial regions" Eph.6:12. Hence Satan is called "the prince of the Power of the air" "the prince of the aerial host" Eph.2:2. The confederation of rebel angels is seated in the atmospheric heaven in the spaces above and around our world. This fundamental of scripture contradicts many traditional concepts of "hell" as the domain of the devil and his minions. King David recognized this fully when he wrote:

"For who in the sky (the atmosphere),
shall be ranked with Jehovah,
who among the sons of the mighty
is like Jehovah? Psalm 89:6"

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Enters Science Stage Right: The human genome is so similar to that of chimpanzees and other primates that there is no doubt that primates represent the ancestral stock for human evolution. Because the difference in genetic makeup between chimpanzees and humans is so small (~1%), and race differences between humans cannot be resolved using current genetic techniques, for an extraterrestrial to produce viable offspring with humans would require that the extraterrestrial be human. Computer technology has taught us that without PERFECTION, CODE will not FUNCTION properly or at all, and that includes the DNA code. SETI scientists and engineers have hotly debated the possible nature and characteristics of ET, generally agreeing that it is astronomically improbable that a carbon copy of the human genome could evolve independently on another planet, given all the possible variations and permutations of planetary evolution, the intervention of God notwithstanding.

So, why the proliferation of stories in the Hebrew Torah, the Islamic Koran, and ancient Sumerian cuneiform tablets about ETs or angels or gods mating with human women?

Mythology is an allegory, or information put into story form so that the essence of what information is being conveyed will survive replication through time. People will remember and record a story about the fallen angels, Harut and Marut (e.g. the Koran), being overcome by desire for an attractive human woman, being caught in the act by a passer-by, and killing him so that no one could testify to their sin (Lewis, 1995). They will probably not remember or record a description of a genetic experiment conducted on humans by extraterrestrials.

How can the common father of Homo sapiens be only 59,000 years old, while our common mother is 143,000 years old? In order for one male genotype to dominate over all others, either the human population had to be reduced to near extinction levels, women had to be so few that competition for them favored certain dominant males, or all populations had to be invaded by men of a common origin to the extent that their genotype prevailed in future generations. If we can take scripture literally, was there an invasion of Nephilim or "sons of God" 59,000 years ago? Was this an attempt by extraterrestrials to create a worker class by introducing new genetic material into a hominid population? Had a selected male genome been modified by extraterrestrials, somewhere in the neighborhood of 233 genes added to increase our ancestor's intelligence, and then this over-sexed male genotype cloned and released on Earth to seek out women as mates?

It is highly unlikely that the genes introduced to enhance intelligence were sex linked, because that would mean that only men would gain the benefit and not women. Sitchin (1976) points out that Sumerian records complement the Genesis version that Adam (a male) was the first (genetically altered) human made in the image of God.

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"Scholars have surmised that references to Adapa as a "son" of Ea implied that the god loved this human so much that he adopted him. But in the same text Anu refers to Adapa as "the human offspring of Enki." It appears that the involvement of Enki's spouse in the process of creating Adapa, the "model Adam," did create some genealogical relationship between the new Man and his god: It was Ninki who was pregnant with Adapa!

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posted August 25, 2006 10:01 PM         

Creation took many tries..and we are all God's Creation..In His/Her Image
Image 10

The Wheel

posted August 25, 2006 10:18 PM         

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The only other sound's the sweep
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posted August 25, 2006 10:54 PM         

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The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

posted August 26, 2006 07:54 AM         

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"Creation took many tries..and we are all God's Creation..In His/Her Image
Image 10"

??? Explain?

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The only other sound's the sweep
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