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silverstone
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posted January 17, 2008 03:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Thor!

Thanks for posting. I like when you say, "DIFFERENT reptilians." That's part of my entire point.

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Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

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silverstone
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posted January 17, 2008 03:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thor,

quote:

time is the issue here. and even though its called another kind of love story...that doesn't mean to get wrapped up in just the LOVE STORY...goober z gets pretty dark in parts....why is that?

Exactly... not just a love story... that's why she said, "another kind of love story"

Gooberz.... Canto fourteen:

as though you missed her as much as I
and wished she hadn't been sacrificied to die upon the scarlet altar of the sin of pride

oh, God! was our selfish pride
the reason she died?

I glanced back at you, but you said nothing
.................... eyes cast down

you only sighed

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Gooberz, Canto Eighteen .........

Lucifer is Not Unlisted

I wait here
for the erotic thrill
of Satan's embrace
to obsess me

for the fiery chill of hell
to possess me

for the mad miracle
of insanity to claim me

to Satan, I pray

I am not afraid

I am not alone

The Devil, they say
takes care of his own

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Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

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ListensToTrees
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posted January 17, 2008 10:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe there is definitely something in it, but that Hashem guy (on the links, in SOME of the things he says, not all), IMHO, has a slightly distorted perspective......
I first came across him when he had these videos on Youtube of so-called "reptilian babies" who were actually DEFORMED as a result of the sick, evil war and its crimes against humanity.

The best way to defeat so called "evil" is not to feed it with fear, nor ANY other negative emotion. You should look it right in the face and show you are not afraid. Image a huge pillar of universal LOVE/LIGHT pouring into you, enveloping you and radiating from your entire being. Focus this love and light onto the entity.

THIS IS THE ONLY WAY "EVIL" can ever be truly defeated.

"ONLY LOVE CAN KILL THE DEMON".
-Quote from Natural Born Killers

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There is no real evil except ignorance itself- an amnesia, a desensitization of who we truly are- a part of the unity of all creation.

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ListensToTrees
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posted January 17, 2008 11:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ2Cg6koHPQ

We are a part of everything. Including any so-called Reptilians. They are a part of us too. The only way to defeat it is to understand it, to recognize the aspects of polarity in every part of creation, and ask ourselves what caused it in the first place.

The illusion of being separate.
If we realized we are not really separate, but One then we would real-eyes that to hurt another would be to hurt ourself.
Loving others doesn't mean we have to stop being worthy of love ourselves; on the contrary. Just as loving ourselves doesn't mean we can't love others just as much.

Ok, if there Reptilians do actually exist in the manner that Arizona Wilder and others have described them, then you can't get any more worse than that- they really are "seperatists" in every sense because the pain they inflict on others is so extreme, it's unbearable to believe or take in.

But by realizing that they too are a part of us, that they represent the darkest aspects of us that has got caught up in the matrix and its illusion, then we begin to realize the deeper clues and keys hidden in the mystery of this labyrinth.

A story goes that once we, all souls (from within all forms of being and life)- were once One.
We decided to create something, to experience creation in separate forms.
As time went on, this creation became more and more "real"- so much so that we became more and more hypnotized by our own dream, until one day we found ourselves in a total state of "amnesia".
Because we have forgotten who we truly are, we see the pain that is in the world.

Some of us are beginning to wake up.

Just through more and more of us waking up, we can actually affect the whole because this will have an impact on the "collective consciousness" we are all a part of. (Refer to "Hundredth Monkey Phenomenon".
http://www.spiritual.com.au/articles/stories/100monkeys_kkeyes.htm

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Thorshammer
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posted January 17, 2008 11:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
did you just quote from a movie called NATURAL BORN KILLERS!!!? you got something loving from that movie...lol. oh please...

Hashem, from what I have seen has never shown anything that wasn't meant to be seen and until you have proof, what is there. I mean if you can watch a show on Ghost hunters and talk about it later as if it is true...how can you say differently about what hes doing.

He made a movie about that group that said they cloned a baby named EVE and exposed them for what they really were, fake. I mean, the media couldn't even get in there and surprisingly they weren't trying to either, and thats odd for them, right?

He hasn't shown me anything that is really shocking me about the world we live in, but in fact hes showing the truth we really don't want to see, that our world isnt fairies and butterflys, because we don't make it that.

I think your world is being turned upside down, the one you love to imagine, its not here, its twisted because the powers that be don't want it to be, they can't have the world of Arthur and Stonehenge..theres no money to be made on it! LOL

YOU SAID:

"Ok, if there Reptilians do actually exist in the manner that Arizona Wilder and others have described them, then you can't get any more worse than that- they really are "seperatists" in every sense because the pain they inflict on others is so extreme, it's unbearable to believe or take in.

But by realizing that they too are a part of us, that they represent the darkest aspects of us that has got caught up in the matrix and its illusion, then we begin to realize the deeper clues and keys hidden in the mystery of this labyrinth."

I don't think the deeper clues and keys are hidden, i think they are right in front of your and my face, some people just don't want to believe them, can't face them...the truth.

oh well you can't show em all...

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silverstone
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posted January 17, 2008 11:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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ListensToTrees
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posted January 17, 2008 11:14 AM
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We are a part of everything. Including any so-called Reptilians. They are a part of us too. The only way to defeat it is to understand it, to recognize the aspects of polarity in every part of creation, and ask ourselves what caused it in the first place.


This is why the original Bible states, "Let us make man in our own image." This is a plural statement because it was a group project.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/002287-6.html


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Charlotte
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posted January 18, 2008 03:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THOR,
That was an *AWESOME*, post. I watched all of the links.
I did not see Passion of Christ. Everyone I know told me to go and see it; I just didn't feel comfortable with the idea of viewing it. It gave me the creeps in those clips! I didn't feel overwhelmed with love. I just felt sick!
I was disgusted with Apocalypto in the clip I just watched. I do not feel compelled to see that movie, but am glad I saw what I saw of it!
The last part was almost a command for us to give up hope, we cannot escape our destiny? my a**…

Fear cripples us; I do believe that with all that is me.
I also believe that not all reptilians are evil. The one I dreamed of wasn’t.
I had no idea that MG had chosen a woman to play the part of Satan.

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ListensToTrees
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posted January 18, 2008 05:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All I was trying to say and point out was that evil can only ultimately be defeated through love (because even when someone dies it is only the body that dies).

Often when we try to "destroy" evil, we only make it stronger by feeding into it with our negative emotions. (The very thing that Hashem mentions in the first video- other dimensional beings feeding off our negativity).


I didn't say Hashem hadn't done any useful research- I only said I would be slightly more objective when it comes to listening to someone who got a video of a deformed baby (due to the war chemicals) and paraded this poor victim across the internet as a "reptilian baby".

Ah well, he may have just made a mistake and realized this afterwards. It caught my attention last year when I was trying to find out as much as I could about these things.

As with all things though- you have to use your own discernment.

There is a vast difference between an opinion, an idea, a point of view and a fact.

So until we actually meet a reptilian for ourselves, we can only make an assumption based on the evidence we have, and there does seem to be something in it from where I'm standing although I realize that there is always the chance that a few of the "dots" may be a little off course.....then again they may not- who knows.

As for meeting reptilians in the astral- that is fair enough, but an entity in spirit can take any form it wants to. What we see in our dreams may be a reflection of our own subconscious and subconscious thoughts.

Who knows, the reptilian type entity in the part of our psyche might go all the way back to the early days of our evolution where we had to watch out for snakes and things, therefore we gradually fed all of these self-created "monsters" into the astral from our collective dreams and consciousness.
I have heard it said that we can actually create entities energetically with a certain amount of focus from our own minds.

Perhaps when members of the Illuminati and such dabble in secret occult rituals, they are simply tapping into a power of super-science, allowing for astral and physical to merge together somehow.

All in all, my guess is that it's all one big illusion- everything we see and experience in this world around us- it is all a result of us as co-creators- even the darker aspects of it.

Strip down the layers and there is no "them" and "us"- only infinite love.

It doesn't really matter if something I or anyone else says sounds flowery, naive or cliche. These opinions do not prove that what has been said is wrong.

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Thorshammer
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posted January 19, 2008 05:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Charlotte...so fascinating...no one ever sees its a woman. Gibson is very intelligent and sneaky, but one thing about it....people who have a purpose are patient people and the wait until the time is right.

from Mad Max, to Lethal weapon (playing someone that everyone thought was crazy but he really wasn't) to THE PASSION...shocked a lot of people.

SIGNS SIGNS no coincidences

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Charlotte
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posted January 19, 2008 05:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thors,
You are so right!!! I just did a little eeeekkk! Signs was right there in front of my face...

What is your take on M. Night Shyamalan?

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Charlotte
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posted January 19, 2008 05:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:All I was trying to say and point out was that evil can only ultimately be defeated through love (because even when someone dies it is only the body that dies).


LTT, very good point!

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ListensToTrees
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posted January 19, 2008 05:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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silverstone
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posted January 23, 2008 09:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL, Thor! They took it down again!

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Charlotte
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posted January 24, 2008 12:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
silverstone, I'm glad that I got to see it first...

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silverstone
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posted January 24, 2008 12:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Charlotte!

Write me an e-mail and I'll write to you where they have been reposted!

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Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

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Charlotte
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posted January 25, 2008 10:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Silverstone, I clicked the link to your name and it just takes me to yahoo mail.
Can you send me an email? I give Randall permission to give you my email addy...

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i have always found david icke's books fascinating, and at the same time wondered what his real agenda is - he also states, at the end of each long, involved exposition of facts and possible conspiracies, that the only way to defeat the reptilians is with LOVE. as they are us and we are they! after all, it is not just those in power who are related to them (assuming that this is not just one HUGE fantasy/paranoia. we are all related! and i have to agree that even if every word is true, the salient fact is that these beings feed on fear, paranoia, negative emotion of all kinds and thus it's only logical to assume that giving it too much attention of any kind is probably feeding into the whole scene/scheme. what you resist persists.

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posted January 25, 2008 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Katatonic!!!

Very insightful you are!!!

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ListensToTrees
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posted January 25, 2008 04:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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and i have to agree that even if every word is true, the salient fact is that these beings feed on fear, paranoia, negative emotion of all kinds and thus it's only logical to assume that giving it too much attention of any kind is probably feeding into the whole scene/scheme. what you resist persists.

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bellemalheur
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posted January 29, 2008 09:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
charlotte, the only thing that i really know about the pleiades is that in ancient astrology they are connected to sexuality--but it is not known HOW the greeks did that, just that they did. in modern astrology this has been kinda overshadowed/forgotten because of the UFO crowd.

i have not read through all 8 pages (yet) so i'm sorry if that's been discussed.

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Charlotte
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posted January 29, 2008 11:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bellemalheur, thanks! for the info and no it hasn't been discussed yet...

Char

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ListensToTrees
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posted March 19, 2008 02:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think human embryos are any more reptilian looking than any other creature's embryo. In fact, most embryos are remarkably similar. This suggests to me that its about time we learned, as Einstein wrote "Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature and its beauty.".

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ListensToTrees
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posted March 19, 2008 02:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"The R-complex is named for the most advanced part of the brain higher mammals share with reptiles. It is responsible for rage[1], xenophobia[1], and basic survival fight-or-flight responses[1]. Often, the R-Complex can override the more rational function of the brain and result in unpredictable, primitive behavior in even the most sentient of creatures, humans included. A well developed and healthy neo-cortex can monitor R-Complex activity in sentient beings. The Reptilian complex is the most ancient part of a very successful brain scheme, evolutionarily speaking".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilian_brain

This "R complex" is not something only humans share with reptiles, but other mammals too!

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ListensToTrees
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posted March 19, 2008 02:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I am, however very interested in finding evidence for the human-reptilian link which is more than speculative.

If anyone has any to share, please let me know. I don't want to here about psychic stuff or messages from ETS....I'm getting tired of all that because it is far from reliable and plainly clear than it is unclear as to exactly which sources can be trusted, amidst so many conspiracies!

This is the world of illusion!

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ListensToTrees
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posted March 19, 2008 03:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There definitely seems to be something going on with humans.
I don't know what.

We seem to be the only creature unable to maintain balance and harmony with ourself and with nature!

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