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firelights
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From: india
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posted September 19, 2006 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for firelights     Edit/Delete Message
hello everyone
a bat visited me today.
he suddenly plopped onto my bed from somewhere and lay there...
i rolled the sheet over him and hung it outside so he could fly away...he did...
he wasnt scary...and i thanked him for coming...
i want to know why he was here...any ideas?

ps:ltho ive seen bats flying around here, this is te first ive seen em enter a room...

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Hexxie
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posted September 19, 2006 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hexxie     Edit/Delete Message
Hi there! I thought you might like to read this. Seems like Bat had a message for you:

42 - Bat: Rebirth

Steeped in the mystery of MesoAmerican tribal ritual is the legend of Bat. Akin to the ancient Buddhist belief in reincarnation, in Central America, Bat is the symbol of rebirth. The Bat has for centuries been a treasured medicine of the Aztec, Toltec, Tolucan, and Mayan people.
Bat embraces the idea of shamanistic death. The ritual death of the healer is steeped in secrets and highly involved initiation rites. Shaman death is the symbolic death of the initiate to the old ways of life and personal identity. The initiation that brings the right to heal and to be called shaman is necessarily precede by ritual death. Most of these rituals are brutally hard on the body, mind, and spirit. In light of today's standards, it can be very difficult to find a person who can take the abuse and come through it with their balance intact.
The basic idea of ancient initiations was to break down all the former notions of "self" that were held by the shaman-to-be. This could entail brutal tests of physical strength and psychic ability, and having every emotional "button" pushed hard. Taunting and spitting on the initiate was common, and taught him or her to endure the duress with humility and fortitude. The final initiation step was to be buried in the earth for one day and to be reborn without former ego in the morning.
This ritual is very similar to the night of fear practiced by natives of Turtle Island. In this ritual, the shaman-to-be is sent to a certain location to dig his or her grave and spend the night in the womb of Mother Earth totally alone, with the mouth of the grave covered by a blanket. Darkness, and the sounds of animals prowling, quickly confront the initiate with his or her fears.
As the darkness of the grave has its place in this ritual, so does the cave of Bat. Hanging upside-down is a symbol for learning to transpose your former self into a newborn being. This is also the position that babies assume when they enter the world through the womb of woman.
If Bat has appeared in your cards today, it symbolizes the need for a ritualistic death of some way of life that no longer suits your new growth pattern. This can mean a time of letting go of old habits, and of assuming the position in life that prepares you for rebirth, or in some cases initiation. In every case, Bat signals rebirth of some part of yourself of the death of old patterns. If you resist your destiny, it can be a long, drawn out, or painful death. The universe is always asking you to grow and become your future.
To do so you must die the shaman's death.

Contrary
If Bat is still hanging upside-down in the cave and immersed in darkness, you have met its contrary medicine. This position leads to stagnation of the spirit and a refusal to acknowledge your true destiny - which is always to use the talents you have to the fullest. Is there some area of your life that has dammed up and therefore stopped your desire to create? If so, look at surrendering to the death of that stagnation.
Bat can also imply that in the reversal of your natural cycle of rebirth you are trying to go at life in a backwards mode. This is a breech birth, in a sense. This type of occluded understanding of how to go about freeing yourself can lead to a stillbirth if you struggle too long in the birth canal. The final outcome can be death of the body. Some people think themselves into a corner with obstacles that are illusionary. By the time they decide what to do, the opportunities are gone and old age is upon them. All of their dreams have passed they by. Reversed Bat says to use your mind, courage, and strength to insure an easy labor and quick delivery into your new state of understanding and growth. Surrender to the new life you have created from thought and desire, and bravely greet that dawn.
If you are concerned with today and tomorrow but not much further, you may forget to see further down the road. Tribal teachings say that you are responsible for future generations because you are the ancestors of the future. Whatever you do today will affect the next seven generations. Every decision, every thought, is to create a state of stagnation or rebirth for those that follow you on the Good Red Road. If you are blocking yourself, you may be blocking the generations to come.
Bat flies at night, and in the night are born your dreams. These are the dreams that build future civilizations, so nourish them well.

Overview
The bat is an animal steeped in mystery, and one which arouses unease in some humans because it is related to darkness and the unknown. Some are afraid of it, perhaps because of its association in horror movies with the supernatural and with ritualistic death.
The bat lives in a cave or a dark place; this is symbolic of the womb, and the animal's position hanging upside down parallels that of the unborn self, immersed in darkness. To encounter Bat as a power animal, therefore, signifies the process of initiation - the ending of an old way of life and a rebirthing into a new life pattern. Bat is there to help you to let go of old habits and a previous way of life, and to face a new dawn. You cannot make progress by hanging on tightly to the very things that are holding you back. So, confront your fears head on, and they will flee from you.
Bat is there to help you see in the darkness and to find your way to a new understanding. Face your fears.

Be flexible. Prepare for rebirth. The time is now, the power is you.
*Source: Sams, Jamie and Carson, David. Medicine Cards


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`Who are you?' said the Caterpillar. This was not an encouraging opening for a conversation. Alice replied, rather shyly, `I--I hardly know, sir, just at present-- at least I know who I WAS when I got up this morning, but I think I must have been changed several times since then.'
~Lewis Carroll

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Yang
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posted September 19, 2006 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
How romantic ( in a sort of vulgar ( the way bats look) way!

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fayte.m
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posted September 19, 2006 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
When I was 16 I woke to find a bat on my bed cover. Poor frightened little fellow.
Another time one flew around for days and I finally scatted him out a window. My saddest bat experience was this:
I kept hearing a squeeking and chirping. I thought a bird had built a nest in my wall or ceiling somehow.
I tried to locate the source of the chirping. But when I got close to the sound it would stop.
Finally after a few days it stopped mysteriously. A month later I was dusting my vase collection.
A large vase with a narrow top had something rattling in it.
I shook it out. There he was, the poor mummified little guy.
I wish I had known he was in the vase so I could have rescued him.
I feel so sad at the days he suffered.

Oh yeah...bats do indeed get caught in hair!
My hair was about 40 inches long at the time. The bats were dipping and soaring one evening and a rather steady breeze was going. My hair was blowing about and lifted at times. Suddenly I had a bat screeching his head off because he had became entangled in my hair!
Either his radar was off or the whispy flyaway hair section was just enough to entangle him but not dense enough to set of his radar!
I had someone run for a towel which we used to pull my tangled hair off the bat.

I wear a hat and braid my even longer hair now before bat watching!

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Age is a State of Mind. Change Your Mind!
~I intend to continue learning forever~Enigma
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.~Enigma
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.~NEXUS
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.~Enigma
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
-NEXUS-

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fayte.m
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posted September 19, 2006 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting bat legends.
My life has drastically/dramatically/amazingly changed since my last bat encounter!

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hippichick
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posted September 19, 2006 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
Hexxie

That is COOL!

Firelights

I have always been intrigued by bats. The hospital I used to work at had the ICU on the 6th floor and from time to time a window or 2 were opened. Occasionally a bat would fly in, in the broad of daylight, swoop over some of the sickest patients before being carefully comandeered by the guys on the unit and set to freedom.

Interesting little creatures they are!

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firelights
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From: india
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posted September 24, 2006 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for firelights     Edit/Delete Message
thanks for your replies everyone. i came up with similar info about rebirth and renewal and facing your fears when i searched on the net.
tht and the solar eclipse of day before... at 29 degress of virgo...
definitely some letting go happening...
i was thinking about what i need to let go of and what i can think of is letting go of any bad health habits and adopting new health routine...
also ive beein trying to let go of the estrogen pill tht was prescribed to me for PCOS and my biggest fear of letting it go is the return of acne which ive faced throught my teens and into my twenties...
ive reduced my dose to one fourth..gradually...and for the last three days ive been experiencing headaches...
i hope the bat helps meto renew my body...

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