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sue g
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posted January 16, 2007 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
...about this shift we talk of....the raise in consciousness, one step closer to heaven so to speak...?

Well I have three people close to me who are all going through some kind of breakdown/breakthrough

They are all very hesitant in a spiritual way...dismissive or frightened to "reach out" to a higher being

One doesnt believe in God or the afterlife

The second one dittos the first one

And the third person is not sure what they believe in...has always been very slow to get help with problems, remains quite closed and tends to focus on the outer stuff rather than the inner.

Do you think this is God/the Univers'es way of encouraging these souls to "wake up"

I love all of them... I can see they are all in pain...

Am trying to help..

But it is quite difficult to reach them

Any words of wisdom, or any insight would be appreciated.

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lotusheartone
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posted January 16, 2007 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Sue, I think you need to talk first with them of what they are experiencing..for in this..is what is causing them to be in pain and uncomfortable..they are at a point where they have no choice to start to believe in God and an afterlife, if we choose Death...

Time for them to read Star Signs
Gooberz
The Girl with the Blue Eyes
and so on , and so on

we learn from experience...perhpas sharing your experiences...

Sue, I know you will figure it out...
and if you ever need a reading, or for me to pull a card..just ask me in the thread you accidently started in OOber Galaxy..maybe it wasn't an accident afterall, hehe

LOts of LOve to ALL. ...

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Zingi
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posted January 16, 2007 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zingi     Edit/Delete Message
Sue,

I think this may give you some insight.
http://www.michaelteachings.com/soul_age_index.html

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You are not a human being in search of a spiritual experience. You are a
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sunshine9
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posted January 17, 2007 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message
Sue, You lovely healer, you already know how to reach them... your very concern for them will help, and loving, healing thoughts & prayers you send their way will enable you to get through to them!

Do you work with crystals much, dear? I've used rose quartz wands in the past to send healing love energy, and I think it has helped... I've felt a shift in the ether, though at the time, I didn't have a way of really verifying it. A few times, I tried meditating with the crystals in tandem with a friend who did the same from her end (we did it long-distance, and we both felt the energy). Perhaps we can find the right crystal for you to use with these folks, depending on where their distress / crisis of faith is coming from (i.e. if it is due to some disappointment from their past, or troubles with relationships, etc.)... If you share the source, perhaps we can find one. And if you'd like, I'll lend my thoughts/prayers to join yours & help these folks...


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sunshine9
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posted January 17, 2007 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message
p.s. Just thought of one other book that is a beautiful read, and helps reaffirm one's faith (esp. when life's circumstances are tough); it's Conversations with God by Neale Donald Walsch...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Co nversations-God-Uncommon-Dialogue-cover/dp/0340693258/sr=1-1/qid=1169011428/ref=sr_1_1/203-5305863-4767930?ie=UTF8&s=books


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mezzoelf1
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posted January 17, 2007 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mezzoelf1     Edit/Delete Message
Sue - this is very difficult as these poor souls are so vulnerable! Too much too soon can be damaging but I am sure you know this all too well! Small steps, kindenss, love, prayers, music (especially sacred choral music) - they are all healers.

Something I often do when I am worried about someone is to light a white candle, focus my enegry through that light to the person in question and just try and send them healing.

Another thing - check their diets. On a more mundane level some simple lifestyle changes can make a big difference. Get them doing yoga - time and time again this can be the key for them to seek something more!

Love, blessings and peace x

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sue g
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posted January 17, 2007 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you kind souls so much for the links and suggestions...

Yes I love crystals and use the rose quartz one often!

The challenge I have is, these people are all family members and there is some very negative stuff going on so, to some extent, I have to detach...

The "talking" doesnt work....so I work behind the scenes so to speak

Maybe I ask for healing and then step back a little....

Thanks again guys


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thirteen
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posted January 17, 2007 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
Pray to spirit guides, or god, or avatars and gurus ( whatever you call it) to show you what you need to know to help them with the situation. I have found this helps for me and usually by a day or two later i get flashes of insight that are helpful. I think you have hit the nail on the head with exactly what is going on. Its happening in my family too. Sometimes i just think what a mess!

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Ghammer
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posted January 18, 2007 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ghammer     Edit/Delete Message

Hi Sue, Some people move into spirituality easily. It is there acceptance of what "is". There surrender to a belief they feel and are comfortable "knowing"
Some are fearful, confused and in denial. They are scared, they have seen sign's, had glimses of a higher power. A lot of what they know or believe now, is in question.
The unknown is a fear driven place for some.

I was part of the later group.

Just a thought, maybe a more "new age" approach would work better for those who don't believe in God.
Everyone has the ability to access God, Higher Power or Life force/Source.
Most times we just have to get our selves out of the way (ego's), in order to access it.

If you've planted the seeds, all you can do is let them make up there own minds. Be there for support, as it sounds you already are, and guidance for when and if they have questions.

Keep on Giving

Ghammer

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Randall
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posted January 19, 2007 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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sue g
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posted January 19, 2007 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks guys, very much....

I hear what you say

And its very appreciated...

Ghammer...i love the universal approach and i also like the God one too...

In Ireland, cos its a catholic country, people say God a lot..."thanks be to God" "please God" etc...

I aint religious at all...cant stand it tbh, but I do like the thought of God...

It brings me comfort....hope my family find the same comfort one day..

Thanks

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hippichick
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posted January 19, 2007 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
I have had people cross my path in this way as well, and I respect the path they have chosen for themselves and am cautious to offer help, unless asked for~~~kind of like an alcoholic or drug addict...they can not truely recieve help unless they ask and truely WANT help~~~

I tend to send people on all paths peace, love and light in many ways without them knowing what I am doing...

SUe, you are a gifted healer and an wise woman and it is NO coincidence that these folks have crossed your path~~~

Blessings

Terri

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Ghammer
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posted January 20, 2007 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ghammer     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Sue, just a thought, do you know any Reiki people? In the course of reason, Jesus was the Original Reiki man, laying on of hands, power of Intention and Love to all. I'm not religious either, more spiritual than anything. Reiki and Energy healing has been around for 3 to 5 thousand years. It is the oldest proffesion. lol
Anyway, just another thought that might be useful.
Have a great weekend.

Love and Light

Ghammer

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