posted February 17, 2007 06:26 PM         

But when is it too much?

posted February 18, 2007 05:31 AM         

1. Do both equally.
2. Do only one extensively and become a pro.
3. Do the other extensively and become a pro.
4. Do neither.

Of course, there is a massive amount of gray area between balance and neither. It all comes down to the choice. What do you want to spend your time on today, this week, this month, this year, decade, life? Every day etc could change.

posted February 18, 2007 08:26 PM         

I tend to panic when I get to that point and can't be alone at all for the next few days, I suck up interaction and store it for when I've unintentionally isolated myself again.

posted February 21, 2007 03:31 PM         

Listening for the Sacred

shhhhhh

please, stop

There is no Hearing

for the Noise

Voids

need not be filled

All and No thing

escape Us

See with your Soul

Hear with your Heart

Give leave

to your mouth,

your hands

and Listen.

Time births Understanding

that Moments

conjoin to Tell

For now...

Feasts for Our Eyes

and No thing more

Songs of the Heart

Illuminations of Cherish

Please...

not just yet.

I want to remain in this Garden a while longer.

posted February 21, 2007 03:36 PM         

Search for a start
An End
An IN between

Words are what I grasp;
tangibly
metaphorically
symbolicly

A Clarity
A renew
A Forgiveness...

Forgive me, Dear Friend
for Silence
for lack of Words
Restriction of the vehicle;
the means this time
portrays your blessed Aim.

Understanding is the Silent Space
Words unconvey

I choose words in trepedation; in awe
in Sacred-Rite-Ceremony
the Power in expression
the Power in devourment
Either raped or transformed
by perception
of differentiating Eyes
Taken to mean what they will
by a Seer from a different Space in Time
than the word's blood-dipped conception

I cherish words so in gratitude
for they gave me you!
A gift...they're a gift,
never meant for Spiraling
too far beyond One Pure Thoht
in Time

I wish I could say that
I let them flow naturally
Yet with Care,
with Care!
If I speak out at All from this Silence
I shall select with utmost care
A Purity that Nature shant
wield away
within/without needs, desires,
twisted limbs of humanity's vices

Are words meant for natural selection?
Only in a time and space
Free
from the Pollution of Gesticulation
the Smog of Greed and Self-Righteousness
that moves Voice and Pen
beyond Sacredness of Intent

the Purity of Silence
I prefer these days

Safe
in quiet, gilded space.

This is Evolution without Song
Without Word
Without definitions, confirmations
which ink would assuredly fail

this gift of Silence
I give to Thee
Untaintable
Unrapeable
Unavailable
for further astray

A Vision that began begot
One Silent Song
A Swan-Song, unfolding
kalaidescope expansion
from the most Visionistic
Inner Landscape of a Dream,
more precious than
a single Word> LOVE
could say

There they are.

Words.

A Life, force-thrown forth in letters
Tired breath, breathing ever beyond
stand-still time

Take them, if you will
Digest softly
the Divinity
of all
they haven't said.

A vision remaining, kept safe-guarded
Blown away in a hushing breeze
that circulates eternally back
to a first exclamation

Unspoken
Unwritten
Evolution

Flourishing Consciously Deep within.

for beloved Gregory~
soaring onwards and upwards,
November 23, 2004

posted February 22, 2007 01:25 AM         

Blue, you asked~

quote:

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But when is it too much?
How does the hyper sensetive person, the psychic, the mystic, the dreamer, find balance between isolation and integration?

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I think we can feel when isolation is becoming ICE-olation (Osho's term). For instance, I hermatized myself for a long time, but since my circumstance in life is a social one, it was done in all the other ways I could find. (...from current friendships, relationships, etc.)
But once isolated for some time, ironically, even though self-induced, I began to feel sad, thinking no one cared about me. Go figure.
I couldn't honestly feel sorry for myself for something I had brought about. But that time alone was necessary for me. I often wonder now at how helpful we are to others, when we urge them to share, to vent, when a stricter, more startling aloneness could be so much more benefitial to them. But everyone is as different as each moment of their lives is varied, with different timely needs. It's not our call, it's theirs. They will find an ear without us, if that's where they are compelled. What's important, I think, is acceptance.

We are alone in such a profound sense. Every experience we have is soley from these eyes, from this heart.
Even love, if you really think about it, is an emotion sprung from the virtual realms of our own hearts, aimed from within to without....why so often we can disillusion ourselves.
We are an island, there is no doubt,
but this island also belongs to the sea and without the Sea to surround it, the island would not be an island. (the outine sea in some ways pronouncing it's existance)

Intimacy=IntoMeSee.

It is a state of mind, I believe. We can live a social life, yet in any moment choose to be more listening/receptive, than active/forceful. We can even express from the Silent Source as we relate.

So, how do we find a balance?
I also liked what Osho wrote about not allowing ourselves to be a utility for others. Remain detatched just enough, to not make yourself 'useful'. Don Juan talks about this as well.

In other words (and especially helpful to Neptunian people)
when you cannot be manipulated and you aren't measured by what you have to offer, how much easier it is to simply Be.
There is a certain balance between detachment and attatchment that I'm always working on, hoping to just Be.

posted February 22, 2007 03:44 AM         

"A Vision that began begot
One Silent Song
A Swan-Song, unfolding
kalaidescope expansion"

I love your poetry, I'll have to read it again to discern more meaning. You stated that I have a strong need to be alone right now, which is probably true, but I always have a strong need to be alone. My alone time is valuable and precious and I will always need it.

Interesting that you should comment on being useful to others, our society would have us think that this is always a good thing, but you're right its not alway so. We're fixated on DOING things, instead of just being, which is about as natural a state as one can achieve.

I suppose the goal of the spiritualist, the meditator, the mystic, is to be able to sustain a meditative state while in the presence of others. Bringing the practice of being aware and present and detached into public is one of the greatest gifts we can give to the world, but it is quite challenging. But in isolation, it's sometimes easy to forget than humans are tribal and social animals. Funny how we're more connected on the internet and telephones, but we're more lonely and less interactive than we ever were. Living together in isolation, how Aquarian.

I've often thought about the soul's imprisonment in the body, fantasizing about living in someone elses body, or having my consciousness free altogether. I think perhaps as sagittarians we value freedom and change of pace above all else, and to be trapped in one body for so many years is something of a travesty. Sometimes I wake up in the morning, sigh, still in this body? Wishing to return to the dream worlds. But maybe, just maybe, we can bring the dream worlds to the real world?

Or perhaps it should be the opposite, embracing the world for what it is, and making the best of it, becoming so low and grounded that there's no desire to take off into fantasy. Is it possible to raise our energy level to the point where we are unphased, inside unphased, an immobile core of power, from which only positivity and good vibes eminate, even under the most dire of circumstances. A way to be centered despite moods, or pain, or social stress. But even greater, acutely aware of all energies, both physical and nonphysical, undercurrents and subconscious motives, and able to transmute negativity in others and the self into something beautiful.

posted February 24, 2007 03:17 AM         

gonna try and get back here soon, thanks.

posted February 24, 2007 04:45 AM         

quote:

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So, how do we find a balance?
I also liked what Osho wrote about not allowing ourselves to be a utility for others. Remain detatched just enough, to not make yourself 'useful'. Don Juan talks about this as well.

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quote:

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There is a certain balance between detachment and attatchment that I'm always working on, hoping to just Be.

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Wise words~

Someone once told me.... "Be open to everything and attached to nothing"

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The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.

posted February 24, 2007 05:00 AM         

Snow falling and night falling fast, oh, fast
In a field I looked into going past,
And the ground almost covered smooth in snow,
But a few weeds and stubble showing last.

The woods around it have it--it is theirs.
All animals are smothered in their lairs.
I am too absent-spirited to count;
The loneliness includes me unawares.

And lonely as it is that loneliness
Will be more lonely ere it be less--
A blanker whiteness of benighted snow
With no expression, nothing to express.

They cannot scare me with their empty spaces
Between stars--on stars where no human race is.
I have it in me so much nearer home
To scare myself with my own desert places.

Robert Frost~

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The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.

posted February 25, 2007 03:08 AM         

Lets talk of isolation of a group first to understand isolation of individual self.

Don't we all have high school reunions. Isn't it fun really? How about company taking a day off for picnic. Well don't you wish you had picnic often

Same with individual self. Its a time to reflect to connect to the sea, letting go of our boundaries. It charges us. Sure.

And is there a limit? Once you are enlightened (or a realized soul for some), there is no need to be isolated. Wherever or however you are , you have been there and you will always know how to act/react. But just as a sword kept like that for years loses its sharpness, so does our mind need to sharpen itself after certain time. We must always meditate and ask for guidance. Set aside time daily to reflect on our deeds.

Life ain't a destination but a journey. And a journey is a continuos learning process providing us perspective from our experiences.

Anyways those were my 2 cents.
Cheers,
M