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silverstone Knowflake Posts: 1521 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted March 28, 2007 03:32 AM
TWO SUNS THE CONNECTION TO 11:11 by Joe Mason and Dee Finney http://www.greatdreams.com/twosuns.htm (Nostradamus) C4, Q29: "The hidden Sun eclipsed by Mercury will be placed only second in the heavens. Hermes will be made the food of Vulcan, the Sun will be seen pure, shining and golden." (Nostradamus) C2, Q41 The great star will burn for seven days, The cloud will make the sun appear double: The large mastiff will howl all night When the great pontiff changes his abode. Pink Floyd Two Suns In The Sunset in my rear view mirror the sun is going down sinking behind bridges in the road and i think of all the good things that we have left undone and I suffer premonitions confirm suspicions of the holocaust to come the wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in gives way and suddenly it's day again the sun is in the east even though the day is done two suns in the sunset hmmmmmmmmm could be the human race is run like the moment when your brakes lock and you slide toward the big truck and stretch the frozen moments with your fear and you'll never hear their voices and you'll never see their faces you have no recourse to the law anymore and as the windshield melts my tears evaporate leaving only charcoal to defend finally i understand the feelings of the few ashes and diamonds foe and friend we were all equal in the end The Music on this page is the midi file of this song~ .... the DOUBLE SUN ....
For what is in two suns but more than MODERN MAN ...... in Suns of time ... UNTIME twain not separated from the each the two .... what world ... a world ... worlds twain the two .... For when is future already occurred .. and the past is yet to unfold .... For in the two suns .... a gleam of ray upon the citadel of steps ..... climb the steps of two suns and you will see .... for in a land of people neglected .... comes a story of UNTIME TIME .... a time when MAN and the flying ones talked to each other ..... For oft upon the MILKY WAY .... a shimmer of two suns can be seen at times UNTIME .... a MILK across the sky .... a place a thing a city ... a MIRROR ... a mirror upon this earth ... two suns ..... BEHOLD ..... Amozonia ... and the southeast USA ... one and the same .... MIRROR upon MIRROR ... what reflection gaze upon the future that has already occurred and the past yet to be ..... upon the golden streets of Eldorado .... a canal .. a ocean ... a deep ..... but just a step .... and out .... for when is a GREEN stone placed upon which bowl .... one shall bring nothing .... the other shall OPEN the GATE .... two suns ... important upon the MARK of a FAMILY .... twain Milky Way and here ..... was ... is ... always be .... two suns .... the road of a path of grain of sand upon the sea of Milky Way ..... and a ROSE of the CHEROKEE ... CHEROKEE ROSE .... for red the flower of the MILKY WAY .... and two suns to LIGHT the way .... Furby TROX
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lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 10349 From: piopolis, quebec canada Registered: Jul 2005
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posted March 28, 2007 03:34 AM
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silverstone Knowflake Posts: 1521 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted March 28, 2007 03:52 AM
The Secret Teachings of All Ages Manly P. Hall THE THREE SUNS. From Lilly's Astrological Predictions for 1648, 1649, and 1650.) The following description of this phenomenon appears in a letter written by Jeremiah Shakerley in Lancashire, March 4th, 1648:--"On Monday the 28th of February last, there arose with the Sun two Parelii, on either side one; their distance from him was by estimation, about ten degrees; they continued still of the same distance from the Zenith, or height above the Horizon, that the Sun did; and from the parts averse to the Sun, there seemed to issue out certain bright rays, not unlike those which the Sun sendeth from behind a cloud, but brighter. The parts of these Parelii which were toward the Sun, were of a mixt colour, wherein green and red were most predominant. A little above them was a thin rainbow, scarcely discernible, of a bright colour, with the concave towards the Sun, and the ends thereof seeming to touch the Parelii: Above that, in a clear diaphanous ayr, [air], appeared another conspicuous Rainbow, beautified with divers colours; it was as neer as I could discern to the Zenith; it seemed of something a lesser radius than the other, they being back to back, yet a pretty way between. At or neer the apparent time of the full Moon, they vanished, leaving abundance of terror and amazement in those that saw them. (See William Lilly.) THE THREE SUNS The solar orb, like the nature of man, was divided by the ancient sages into three separate bodies. According to the mystics, there are three suns in each solar system, analogous to the three centers of life in each individual constitution. These are called three lights: the spiritual sun, the intellectual or soular sun, and the material sun (now symbolized in Freemasonry by three candles). The spiritual sun manifests the power of God the Father; the soular sun radiates the life of God the Son; and the material sun is the vehicle of manifestation for God the Holy Spirit. Man's nature was divided by the mystics into three distinct parts: spirit, soul, and body. His physical body was unfolded and vitalized by the material sun; his spiritual nature was illuminated by the spiritual sun; and his intellectual nature was redeemed by the true light of grace--the soular sun. The alignment of these three globes in the heavens was one explanation offered for the peculiar fact that the orbits of the planets are not circular but elliptical. The pagan priests always considered the solar system as a Grand Man, and drew their analogy of these three centers of activity from the three main centers of life in the human body: the brain, the heart, and the generative system. The Transfiguration of Jesus describes three tabernacles, the largest being in the center (the heart), and a smaller one on either side (the brain and the generative system). It is possible that the philosophical hypothesis of the existence of the three suns is based upon a peculiar natural phenomenon which has occurred many times in history. In the fifty- first year after Christ three suns were seen at once in the sky and also in the sixty-sixth year. In the sixty-ninth year, two suns were seen together. According to William Lilly, between the years 1156 and 1648 twenty similar occurrences were recorded. Recognizing the sun as the supreme benefactor of the material world, Hermetists believed that there was a spiritual sun which ministered to the needs of the invisible and divine part of Nature--human and universal. Anent this subject, the great Paracelsus wrote: "There is an earthly sun, which is the cause of all heat, and all who are able to see may see the sun; and those who are blind and cannot see him may feel his heat. There is an Eternal Sun, which is the source of all wisdom, and those whose spiritual senses have awakened to life will see that sun and be conscious of His existence; but those who have not attained spiritual consciousness may yet feel His power by an inner faculty which is called Intuition." Certain Rosicrucian scholars have given special appellations to these three phases of the sun: the spiritual sun they called Vulcan; the soular and intellectual sun, Christ and Lucifer respectively; and the material sun, the Jewish Demiurgus Jehovah. Lucifer here represents the intellectual mind without the illumination of the spiritual mind; therefore it is "the false light. " The false light is finally overcome and redeemed by the true light of the soul, called the Second Logos or Christ. The secret processes by which the Luciferian intellect is transmuted into the Christly intellect constitute one of the great secrets of alchemy, and are symbolized by the process of transmuting base metals into gold. In the rare treatise The Secret Symbols of The Rosicrucians, Franz Hartmann defines the sun alchemically as: "The symbol of Wisdom. The Centre of Power or Heart of things. The Sun is a centre of energy and a storehouse of power. Each living being contains within itself a centre of life, which may grow to be a Sun. In the heart of the regenerated, the divine power, stimulated by the Light of the Logos, grows into a Sun which illuminates his mind." In a note, the same author amplifies his description by adding: "The terrestrial sun is the image or reflection of the invisible celestial sun; the former is in the realm of Spirit what the latter is in the realm of Matter; but the latter receives its power from the former." In the majority of cases, the religions of antiquity agree that the material visible sun was a reflector rather than a source of power. The sun was sometimes represented as a shield carried on the arm of the Sun God, as for example, Frey, the Scandinavian Solar Deity. This sun reflected the light of the invisible spiritual sun, which was the true source of life, light, and truth. The physical nature of the universe is receptive; it is a realm of effects. The invisible causes of these effects belong to the spiritual world. Hence, the spiritual world is the sphere of causation; the material world is the sphere of effects; while the intellectual--or soul--world is the sphere of mediation. Thus Christ, the personified higher intellect and soul nature, is called "the Mediator" who, by virtue of His position and power, says: "No man cometh to the Father, but by me." What the sun is to the solar system, the spirit is to the bodies of man; for his natures, organs, and functions are as planets surrounding the central life (or sun) and living upon its emanations. The solar power in man is divided into three parts, which are termed the threefold human spirit of man. All three of these spiritual natures are said to be radiant and transcendent; united, they form the Divinity in man. Man's threefold lower nature--consisting of his physical organism, his emotional nature, and his mental faculties--reflects the light of his threefold Divinity and bears witness of It in the physical world. Man's three bodies are symbolized by an upright triangle; his threefold spiritual nature by an inverted triangle. These two triangles, when united in the form of a six-pointed star, were called by the Jews "the Star of David," "the Signet of Solomon," and are more commonly known today as "the Star of Zion." These triangles symbolize the spiritual and material universes linked together in the constitution of the human creature, who partakes of both Nature and Divinity. Man's animal nature partakes of the earth; his divine nature of the heavens; his human nature of the mediator. THE CELESTIAL INHABITANTS OF THE SUN The Rosicrucians and the Illuminati, describing the angels, archangels, and other celestial creatures, declared that they resembled small suns, being centers of radiant energy surrounded by streamers of Vrilic force. From these outpouring streamers of force is derived the popular belief that angels have wings. These wings are corona-like fans of light, by means of which the celestial creatures propel themselves through the subtle essences of the superphysical worlds. True mystics are unanimous in their denial of the theory that the angels and archangels are human in form, as so often pictured. A human figure would be utterly useless in the ethereal substances through which they manifest. Science has long debated the probability of the other planers being inhabited. Objections to the idea are based upon the argument that creatures with human organisms could nor possibly exist in the environments of Mars, Jupiter, Uranus, and Neptune. This argument fails to take into account Nature's universal law of adjustment to environment. The ancients asserted that life originated from the sun, and that everything when bathed in the light of the solar orb was capable of absorbing the solar life elements and later radiating them as flora and fauna. One philosophical concept regarded the sun as a parent and the planers as embryos still connected to the solar body by means of ethereal umbilical cords which served as channels to convey life and nourishment to the planets. Some secret orders have taught that the sun was inhabited by a race of creatures with bodies composed of a radiant, spiritual ether not unlike in its constituency the actual glowing ball of the sun itself. The solar heat had no harmful effect upon them, because their organisms were sufficiently refined and sensitized to harmonize with the sun's tremendous vibratory rate. These creatures resemble miniature suns, being a little larger than a dinner plate in size, although some of the more powerful are considerably larger. Their color is the golden white light of the sun, and from them emanate four streamers of Vril. These streamers are often of great length and are in constant motion. A peculiar palpitation is to be noted throughout the structure of the globe and is communicated in the form of ripples to the emanating streamers. The greatest and most luminous of these spheres is the Archangel Michael; and the entire order of solar life, which resemble him and dwell upon the sun, are called by modern Christians "the archangels" or "the spirits of the light. THE SUN IN ALCHEMICAL SYMBOLOGY Gold is the metal of the sun and has been considered by many as crystallized sunlight. When gold is mentioned in alchemical tracts, it may be either the metal itself or the celestial orb which is the source, or spirit, of gold. Sulphur because of its fiery nature was also associated with the sun. As gold was the symbol of spirit and the base metals represented man's lower nature, certain alchemists were called "miners" and were pictured with picks and shovels digging into the earth in search of the precious metal--those finer traits of character buried in the earthiness of materiality and ignorance. The diamond concealed in the heart of the black carbon illustrated the same principle. The Illuminati used a pearl hidden in the shell of an oyster at the bottom of the sea to signify spiritual powers. Thus the seeker after truth became a pearl-fisher: he descended into the sea of material illusion in search of understanding, termed by the initiates "the Pearl of Great Price." When the alchemists stated that every animate and inanimate thing in the universe contained the seeds of gold, they meant that even the grains of sand possessed a spiritual nature, for gold was the spirit of all things. Concerning these seeds of spiritual gold the following Rosicrucian axiom is significant: "A seed is useless and impotent unless it is put in its appropriate matrix." Franz Hartmann comments on this axiom with these illuminating words: "A soul cannot develop and progress without an appropriate body, because it is the physical body that furnishes the material for its development." (See In the Pronaos of the Temple of Wisdom.) The purpose of alchemy was not to make something out of nothing but rather to fertilize and nurture the seed which was already present. Its processes did nor actually create gold but rather made the ever-present seed of gold grow and flourish. Everything which exists has a spirit--the seed of Divinity within itself--and regeneration is not the process of attempting to place something where it previously had not existed. Regeneration actually means the unfoldment of the omnipresent Divinity in man, that this Divinity may shine forth as a sun and illumine all with whom it comes in contact. THE MIDNIGHT SUN Apuleius said when describing his initiation (vide ante): "At midnight I saw the sun shining with a splendid light." The midnight sun was also part of the mystery of alchemy. It symbolized the spirit in man shining through the darkness of his human organisms. It also referred to the spiritual sun in the solar system, which the mystic could see as well at midnight as at high noon, the material earth bring powerless to obstruct the rays of this Divine orb. The mysterious lights which illuminated the temples of the Egyptian Mysteries during the nocturnal hours were said by some to he reflections of the spiritual sun gathered by the magical powers of the priests. The weird light seen ten miles below the surface of the earth by I-AM-THE-MAN in that remarkable Masonic allegory Etidorhpa (Aphrodite spelt backward) may well refer to the mysterious midnight sun of the ancient rites. Primitive conceptions concerning the warfare between the principles of Good and Evil were often based upon the alternations of day and night. During the Middle Ages, the practices of black magic were confined to the nocturnal hours; and those who served the Spirit of Evil were called black magicians, while those who served the Spirit of Good were called white magicians. Black and white were associated respectively with night and day, and the endless conflict of light and shadow is alluded to many times in the mythologies of various peoples. The Egyptian Demon, Typhon, was symbolized as part crocodile and part: hog because these animals are gross and earthy in both appearance and temperament. Since the world began, living things have feared the darkness; those few creatures who use it as a shield for their maneuvers were usually connected with the Spirit of Evil. Consequently cats, bats, toads, and owls are associated with witchcraft. In certain parts of Europe it is still believed that at night black magicians assume the bodies of wolves and roam around destroying. From this notion originated the stories of the werewolves. Serpents, because they lived in the earth, were associated with the Spirit of Darkness. As the battle between Good and Evil centers around the use of the generative forces of Nature, winged serpents represent the regeneration of the animal nature of man or those Great Ones in whom this regeneration is complete. Among the Egyptians the sun's rays are often shown ending in human hands. Masons will find a connection between these hands and the well-known Paw of the Lion which raises all things to life with its grip. SOLAR COLORS The theory so long held of three primary and four secondary colors is purely exoteric, for since the earliest periods it has been known that there are seven, and not three, primary colors, the human eye being capable of estimating only three of them. Thus, although green can be made by combining blue and yellow, there is also a true or primary green which is not a compound. This can he proved by breaking up the spectrum with a prism. Helmholtz found that the so-called secondary colors of the spectrum could not be broken up into their supposed primary colors. Thus the orange of the spectrum, if passed through a second prism, does not break up into red and yellow but remains orange. Consciousness, intelligence, and force are fittingly symbolized by the colors blue, yellow, and red. The therapeutic effects of the colors, moreover, are in harmony with this concept, for blue is a fine, soothing, electrical color; yellow, a vitalizing and refining color; and red, an agitating and heat-giving color. It has also been demonstrated that minerals and plants affect the human constitution according to their colors. Thus a yellow flower generally yields a medicine that affects the constitution in a manner similar to yellow light or the musical tone mi. An orange flower will influence in a manner similar to orange light and, being one of the so-called secondary colors, corresponds either to the tone re or to the chord of do and mi. The ancients conceived the spirit of man to correspond with the color blue, the mind with yellow, and the body with red. Heaven is therefore blue, earth yellow, and hell--or the underworld--red. The fiery condition of the inferno merely symbolizes the nature of the sphere or plane of force of which it is composed. In the Greek Mysteries the irrational sphere was always considered as red, for it represented that condition in which the consciousness is enslaved by the lusts and passions of the lower nature. In India certain of the gods--usually attributes of Vishnu--are depicted with blue skin to signify their divine and supermundane constitution. According to esoteric philosophy, blue is the true and sacred color of the sun. The apparent orange-yellow shade of this orb is the result of its rays being immersed in the substances of the illusionary world. In the original symbolism of the Christian Church, colors were of first importance and their use was regulated according to carefully prepared rules. Since the Middle Ages, however, the carelessness with which colors have been employed has resulted in the loss of their deeper emblematic meanings. In its primary aspect, white or silver signified life, purity, innocence, joy, and light; red, the suffering and death of Christ and His saints, and also divine love, blood, and warfare or suffering; blue, the heavenly sphere and the states of godliness and contemplation; yellow or gold, glory, fruitfulness, and goodness; green, fecundity, youthfulness, and prosperity; violet, humility, deep affection, and sorrow; black, death, destruction, and humiliation. In early church art the colors of robes and ornaments also revealed whether a saint had been martyred, as well as the character of the work that he had done to deserve canonization. In addition to the colors of the spectrum there are a vast number of vibratory color waves, some too low and others too high to be registered by the human optical apparatus. It is appalling to contemplate man's colossal ignorance concerning these vistas of abstract space. As in the past man explored unknown continents, so in the future, armed with curious implements fashioned for the purpose, he will explore these little known fastnesses of light, color, sound, and consciousness. SURYA, THE REGENT OF THE SUN.
From Moor's Hindu Pantheon. Moor describes this figure as follows: "The cast is nine inches in height, representing the glorious god of day-holding the attributes of VISHNU, seated on a seven-headed serpent; his car drawn by a seven-headed horse, driven by the legless ARUN, a personification of the dawn, or AURORA." (See Moor's Hindu Pantheon.) THE SOLAR FACE. From Montfaucon's Antiquities. The corona of the sun is here shown in the form of a lion's mane. This is a subtle reminder of the fact that at one time the summer solstice took place in the sign of Leo, the Celestial Lion. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IP: Logged |
naiad Knowflake Posts: 846 From: Registered: Sep 2006
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posted March 28, 2007 04:00 AM
wow.....very nice silverstone!  IP: Logged |
lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 10349 From: piopolis, quebec canada Registered: Jul 2005
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posted March 28, 2007 04:00 AM
so 666 we are the Beast, we are lucifer, you see..Earth is hell, until you overcome...and tbe Holy Ghost, she's the Most, is the Mother. ... There are not three Suns. ... 2 will become One again... . Vulcan is hiding behind Mercury, by the Sun... Soon we will See. . . IP: Logged |
silverstone Knowflake Posts: 1521 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted March 28, 2007 04:08 AM
NOTE~ I added more to the second post~------------------ The only other sound's the sweep Of easy wind and downy flake. The woods are lovely, dark, and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 434 From: the capricious clouds Registered: Jul 2005
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posted March 28, 2007 04:15 AM
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fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 6435 From: Registered: Mar 2005
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posted March 28, 2007 10:13 AM
sun dog; or dogs of war: These two colorful and luminous spots, at roughly 22 degrees on both sides of the sun, are caused by refraction of sunlight through ice crystals. Sun dogs are most common during winter in the middle latitudes.>>>>see...I thought it was odd to get them in summer and fall.<<<<<<<<<<<<< Sundogs (parhelia, mock suns) are, with the 22º halo, the most frequent of the halos. Look for them, especially when the sun is low, at each side and about 22° away. This is the same distance or more** than the common circular halo.
The ones I saw looked like 3 full suns in a neat row!!!!!! All the same!!!!!!! this one is good...but still not the ones I saw; Why "HOLY BIBLE" in ASCII* Code = 666 http://www.greaterthings.com/home.htm#Web_Overview http://www.greaterthings.com/Word-Number/666/index.html http://www.greaterthings.com/Word-Number/index.html#Alphabetics ------------------ ~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~ ~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~ ~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~ }><}}}(*> <*){{{><{ ~~~ ~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~ ~~~~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ IP: Logged |
lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 10349 From: piopolis, quebec canada Registered: Jul 2005
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posted March 28, 2007 09:20 PM
Two Suns....One MOon, MOther, MOther created a Man, son, husband...then created HerSelf... then Father Sun, and MOther MOon, had a Son... Two Suns. ... this is symbolic... . LOts of LOve to ALL. . . IP: Logged |
InLoveWithLife Knowflake Posts: 1173 From: Wonderland Registered: Aug 2006
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posted March 29, 2007 06:23 PM
i don't know if this is relevant to the discussion, as i guess it is the symbolism behind it that is being discussed. but i just thought it was a weird coincidence that i shud come across this article.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6506081.stm http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/videos/spitzer/spitzer20070329/ IP: Logged |
Lialei Knowflake Posts: 1407 From: Registered: Jul 2005
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posted March 29, 2007 07:00 PM
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fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 6435 From: Registered: Mar 2005
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posted March 29, 2007 07:50 PM
I dream of a system with 3.------------------ ~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~ ~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~ ~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~ }><}}}(*> <*){{{><{ ~~~ ~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~ ~~~~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ IP: Logged |
lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 10349 From: piopolis, quebec canada Registered: Jul 2005
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posted March 29, 2007 07:54 PM
Did they have three of them, in that TV show, Land of the Lost? I am showing my age, lolIP: Logged |
silverstone Knowflake Posts: 1521 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted March 30, 2007 04:32 PM
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lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 10349 From: piopolis, quebec canada Registered: Jul 2005
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posted April 06, 2007 02:01 AM
did they have three suns?IP: Logged |
silverstone Knowflake Posts: 1521 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted April 16, 2007 08:35 PM
This is interesting:The Mayans believed that that sun had died and been reborn 4 times previously and that we are now in the time period which ends the 5th sun in 2012. In Mr. Harts research, he keeps bring us back to Vensus, because the Mayans were not just obsessed about the sun and its cycles but Venus and its cycles as well. If the reader recalls the Golden Mean number of 8 is the ratio between the orbits of the Earth and Venus as they both revolve around the sun, is it surprising to find that a very important event called the Vensus Transit just happens to end in 2012? This event happens in two parts with an 8 years span between, which is this case was 2004. Traveling back in time and seeing events that happened on earth during the 8 year intervals of the other Venus transits, a very important pattern emerges involving the solar output. One cannot only talk about the sun and earth and leave out Venus. In the 8 years between 1518 and 1526, Cortez conquered the Aztecs. In the eight years between 1771 and1769, the American Revolution occurred. The Mayans placed Venus in a very important position in their belief system and its crucial to understanding the solar cycle. The Long Count which ends in 2012 began with what they called “The Birth of Venus.” The cycles of Venus and the cycles of the sun are timed to be markers and that is why the Mayans focused on not just one but both. The transit of Venus across the sun causes a perfect harmonic relationship between the three spheres. The Mayans kept within their calendar many cycles all built on the root of 13. 13,000 years ago the end of the last ice age occurred and the planet has been gradually warming ever since that time, even taking into consideration the small cold intervals. This is the real answer to why there is global warming and why the ice is melting all over the planet. The sun is heating up and so is the earth. This heat causes instability and earthquakes, volcanic activity and erratic weather patterns. December, 2012, the solstice sun will line up with the center of the galaxy. This point is right in the center of a part of the galaxy, which resembles a female vagina, called the dark rift. This is the birthplace of new stars and is the perfect symbol of new birth. This is the womb. The Mayans considered this the birth canal of the Great Mother and that sun would be the birth of the Great Father which would appear to emerge from her birth canal on 12 /21/12 at 11:11. The symbolic nature of these events will be left to each reader to put meaning into, but the elaborate time keeping was even encoded into their sacred buildings and temples such as the temple of the sun, similarly to the Great Pyramid at Giza, both alignment clocks, which use Orion and Venus to line their site on one date, 2012. Patrick Geryl, author of “The World in Catalclysm in 2012”, states that Venus is the key to al mysteries. In Mayan belief, Venus is considered the companion of the sun. The earth and Venus have a common point of contact. The orbit period lasts 25,920 years (A great year on earth) but 243 days in Venus time. When 243 is multiplied by 60 the result is 25,920, which is the length of one Great Age, or the time in earth years it takes to move from one sign of the zodiac to another. On the equinoxes, the sun crosses a center point and makes an exact 90 degree angle over the Pyramid of Kuklakan at the sacred site of Chichen Itza on Mexico’s Yucatan penninsula (a place that represents the turtle’s head on the continent known as Turtle Island or North America.) The Pyramid of Kukulcan has nine levels, each one maps a different era in human evolutionary history. Researcher Ian Lundgold has done much research on this. The Egyptian Book of the Dead records that in the year 9727, the sun came up on a new horizon and Orion, then called Osiris. This was due to crustal displacement and a change in the direction of the rotation of the earth. There are only two other times in twelve thousand years that this same astronomical configuration of Osiris is seen in the sky after that date. One is 3114, which is the beginning of the Mayan Calendar, and 2012, the end of the Mayan Calendar. It is only at these precise times that the planet Venus makes a loop which takes it across the top of the constellation Orion (Osiris). So now we have an answer to why the Mayans included Venus is such a prominent part of their cosmology and why the Egyptians included Orion (then Osiris) in theirs. It is noteworthy that both cultures are known for the pyramids. The astronomical Orion (Osiris) if of importance and is a marker for this event. Put that together with the fact that the planet Venus makes a retrograde loop above Orion near the twins (Gemini) but only at these times. Since the earth is at the end part of the cycle, Venus made the retrograde in 2004 and will make the next pass over the sun in 2012 at the time of the birth of the 5th sun. Not just warming of the planet but magnetic reversals of the sun are tied in the transit of Venus, because when the previous times of transit are researched it is shown that during these eight year periods, solar energy output is increased dramatically. The sunspot cycle is eleven years in duration and it is these rising solar maximums that are also the times of disasters, and wars, volcano activity and earthquakes, and human activity follows the rising and falling of these sun spot cycles. Add to this that the earth has been warming for 13,000 years and global warming does not seem so surprising. These events are tied in with this stronger solar output. Could this also be why the Bible as part of the ‘signs’of the end gives wars and earthquakes as things to look for? It is of note that scientists have been waiting for the next sun spot cycle which has been announced as having just begun, and builds with 50% more activity between now and 2012, which is the peak time. The case has been made that Venus is a sign of this increase of sun spot activity. According to researcher Will Hart, the last Venus transit was in 1882 before the electromagnetic revolution in technology. He believes such times of solar output, disrupts the normal flow of energy increasing solar flares to the point where they will knock out communications. He contends civilization will be in for some nasty surprises in the next few years. Who gave the Mayans the knowledge of the Golden Mean ratio and the harmonic relationship between The Earth, Venus and the Sun? To say they just stumbled upon it would be to stretch credulity. Was such knowledge transmitted and impressed upon them so that they encoded it in their entire society even in the games they played? The advanced knowledge of the Mayans as well as the Egyptians is not fancy but fact, and is not happenstance but provable, only how they came by their information is subject to conjecture. If we take into consideration that the Egyptians and the Mayans, both were based around reverence for the Sun, and that both had great pyramidal structures, and both kept time counts based on advanced astronomical calculations, then the following information may not seem so far out. A group known as the RA group, transmitted a message regarding the changes in the earth and in humanity in 1981 that may shed some light on where the Mayans and the Egyptians got their information. Here are some quotes from that material. RA: We are those who are of the Law of One, of Unity. We have walked your planet and seen the faces of your peoples. We now feel a great responsibility of helping remove certain distortions that have been given to the law of One. We, as social memory complex or group soul, made contact with a race on your planet which you call Egyptians. We spoke to one who heard and understood, and was in a position to decree the law of One. (Based on the Edgar Cayce Readings, we can see that this was the entity Ra-Ta, who helped Ra design the Great Pyramid with Hermes and much later reincarnated as Cayce himself). However the priests and the peoples of that era quickly distorted our message, robbing it of the compassion with which unity is informed. We are part of the social memory complex that voyaged outward from a planet in your solar system, the one you call Venus. We are a race old in your measures. When we were at the 6th dimension our physical beings were what you call golden. We were tall and somewhat delicate. The covering of our physical body complex had a golden luster. In this form we decided to come among your peoples. Your peoples were much unlike us in physical appearance. Thus we did not mix well with the population and were obviously other than they. Our visit was relatively short. This was when we built the pyramids. We did not want to be worshipped as builders of a miraculous pyramid. Thus it appears to be made, not thought. Eleven thousand years ago, we came to two of your planetary cultures which at that time were closely in touch with the Creation of the One Creator, It was our naive belief that we could teach by direct contact. These cultures were already closely aligned with an all-embracing belief in the live-ness or consciousness of all. We came and were welcomed by the peoples we wished to serve. We attempted to aid them in technical ways having to do with healing of mind/body/spirit complex through the use of the crystal. Thus were the pyramids created. However, it turned out that those in power reserved this technology for themselves. This was not intended by the law of the One. We left your peoples. The 1st attempt to aid your peoples occurred about 75,000 years ago. Next help was given to those of Mu about 58,000 years ago. Next, help was offered to Atlantis about 13,000 years ago. The next attempt was to help the Egyptians [and to some in South America] about 11,000 years ago. About 3500 years later [7500 years ago] help was offered again to some in South America. We attempted to contact (mentally) the rulers of this land (Egypt). In the 18th dynasty we were able to contact a pharaoh, Aten or Ikhnaton. He was a wanderer. This entity became convinced that the vibration of One was the true spiritual vibration and thus decreed the law of One. But his beliefs were accepted by few. When he fell, the polarized beliefs in many gods came into their own. The RA group explains that the entire solar system has not moved to a new locality in the galaxy and that not just the earth will go through changes but all of humanity will also. This may be the missing piece of the puzzle, however each reader will have to determine that for himself, in any case. RA calls this the dimensional shift and says they have been the ones leaving clues so that now they could be discovered and that the earth, the people and the solar system is in the midst of a great awakening. Sources: http://www.lunarplanner.com/HCpages/Venus.html http://www.spiritofra.com/Ra-section%201.htm ~Tree Hugger http://www.thirdeyeconcept.com/forums/index.php?page=127 The only other sound's the sweep Of easy wind and downy flake. The woods are lovely, dark, and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost IP: Logged |
lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 10349 From: piopolis, quebec canada Registered: Jul 2005
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posted April 16, 2007 08:50 PM
wow, read my last post to Thosa, in this forum, Silverstone, and then, under cat71 28:01, and then I posted about 12-21-2012 and then, in pilgrim's progress under The Bermuda Triangle, and this is what MY MIND is SEEing, amazing...did you know the outer cog*edit- long count* of the Mayan calendar started on August 13, 3114? IP: Logged |
silverstone Knowflake Posts: 1521 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted April 16, 2007 08:57 PM
I just read it, cool  Align and gate jumped at me when I read your post from your lexi. ------------------ The only other sound's the sweep Of easy wind and downy flake. The woods are lovely, dark, and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost IP: Logged |
lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 10349 From: piopolis, quebec canada Registered: Jul 2005
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posted April 16, 2007 09:04 PM
Atlantis is off the east coast, and Mu is off the west coast...wonder if there is some kinda of triangle, in the Pacific????IP: Logged |
lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 10349 From: piopolis, quebec canada Registered: Jul 2005
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posted April 16, 2007 09:12 PM
Oh, and in Pilgrim's Progress, right under, Raj's topic, time travel, I wrote about the womb/vessel...my last post. ...  IP: Logged |
silverstone Knowflake Posts: 1521 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted April 16, 2007 09:26 PM
Also,Here's some other interesting stuff: Something is Wrong With Our Sun Kev Peacock has just produced an eBook that summarises all his research findings, some of which were previously on the "Geomagnetic" page of his website (see Beyond 2012 item 42). The book is called Something is Wrong With Our Sun. Kev is an Australian amateur radio operator, or "ham", who set out to study how earth's atmospheric and weather conditions affected his radio signal. He became immersed in a detailed investigation of the solar cycle, sunspots, solar flares, interplanetary magnetic flux, solar wind, and more. One of the first things he noticed is that the graphs of solar activity show a clear incline over the last few hundred years since the records began (see also diagrams at Beyond 2012 item 3). This means that solar activity has been steadily increasing for a long time. When he noticed that the Earth's geomagnetic activity was also increasing, along with earthquake activity, he contacted government agencies, who denied any increases and said that any apparent increases were due to more advanced instrumentation over the years. Kev re-checked and found that the official explanation did not explain the data. For example, in the case of earthquakes, he only counted major quakes, and the tally of these would not be affected by new equipment. Next, Kev started corresponding with a Malaysian UFOlogist called Ahmad Jamaludin, who had discovered a pattern to UFO sightings that fitted in with the solar cycle. Jamaludin, (who has a "source x" theory to explain it), provided maps of UFO sightings that followed Earth's tectonic plate junctions. Kev went on to examine reports of alien abductions and cattle mutilation. He came to the conclusion that the details show that, in the case of humans, the glandular examinations by the abductors, plus sampling of skin, blood, sperm, ova, and hair, is exactly the kind of tissue sampling that would be needed to show effects of increased radiation. In the case of animal mutilation, there is even more evidence of an interest by the perpetrators, in checking on an increase in carbon 14 from solar radiation. A rise in carbon 14 may, says Kev, be connected to the rise in cancer over the past century. Kev concludes that, in July-August 2011, there is a possible coincidence of 4 factors that could, if they occur at the same time, endanger the Earth. These are the 4 factors: 1. The height of summer in the Northern hemisphere in June 2011 (summer solstice is June 21st), when the Earth's magnetic North pole is closest to the Sun. 2. There will be three eclipses that occur in June 2011, causing geomagnetic effects (NB earthquake in Turkey following the eclipse in August 1999). 3. The solar maximum is due at this time, when the sun's magnetic field reverses (every 11 years on average). 4. The possible peak of a solar mega-cycle, or long-term sunspot cycle indicated by the incline in graphs of solar activity ( see here for more on solar mega-cycle, and here ). Kev says the result of these 4 factors coinciding will cause the Earth's magnetic field to collapse and reverse, and the "resulting earthquake and volcano activity bringing about the end of our civilisation by the end of 2012". A new ice-age would probably follow, due to a global temperature drop as volcanic ash cuts out sunlight. However, the last solar polar reversal cycle (11-year sunspot cycle) was a year later than expected, lasting 11 years, 10 months, and reversing in February 2001 (see Whats New item 18). That brings the next expected peak to February 2012, but it is variable - between 8 & 14 year periods have been recorded in the past. So, if the current cycle is a little less than 11 years, we could be in big trouble, according to Kev's theory. This, says Kev, explains why the goverments have been hushing up the alien presence - because they're here to study the effects of a solar mega-max; an event (possibly in combination with the other factors), that only occurs, says Kev, every 65 million years, & wiped out the dinosaurs last time. Kev brings up some very interesting points in the book, and it is well illustrated with graphs showing correlations between solar, geomagnetic, and earthquake increases, UFO & tectonic plate coincidences, plus bovine excision pics. -'98 West Kennett "Mayan" Crop Glyph Explained In May 1998, a crop formation appeared near West Kennett Long Barrow, opposite Silbury Hill, Avebury, Wiltshire, UK. It became known as the Beltane Wheel. Photographer Steve Alexander dates its discovery as 5th May 1998 (Lucy Pringle dates it at 4th May). There was soon a rumour circulating that the crop glyph was the same as the Mayan Sun glyph. Since the Mayan Sun glyph is called Ahau, and doesn't look like the crop formation, I wondered where the information came from. Now I have found out - Aluna Joy Yaxk'in, a new-age speaker and author, who works with the Mayan calendar (the Arguelles version). Aluna, (whose website is called Center of the Sun), discovered the formation on May 4th 1998 while at the 1998 Mayan Dreamtime Festival in Glastonbury. She predicted finding a "sun" crop circle shortly before seeing it, and it connects to the Mayan calendar since there are "33 solar petals" on the formation, and the Mayan Tzolk'in uses a combination of 13 numbers and 20 day signs, which she calls "sun glyphs". Read the whole story at Crop Circles and Mayan Time . http://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/new3.htm#sun ------------------ The only other sound's the sweep Of easy wind and downy flake.
The woods are lovely, dark, and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost IP: Logged |
lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 10349 From: piopolis, quebec canada Registered: Jul 2005
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posted April 16, 2007 09:40 PM
I was just meditating about the cow mulitlations, for this breaks my heart...the reason the cows are treated in this manner, is because, of what they have seen done to them in the slaughter houses, our lack of respect for the cows, is imitated by them. ... if more treated animals with reverence, then this would not happen, they figured this would not seem out of place to Us, gosh, that is sad... this is still, the world of Illusion... we can change this, if we want too!  IP: Logged |
Lialei Knowflake Posts: 1407 From: Registered: Jul 2005
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posted April 17, 2007 11:43 PM
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lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 10349 From: piopolis, quebec canada Registered: Jul 2005
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posted May 02, 2007 05:36 PM
More good stuff!IP: Logged |
silverstone Knowflake Posts: 1521 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted May 03, 2007 12:10 AM
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