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ListensToTrees
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posted July 03, 2007 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I don't want to make this a really Moon in Libra long-winded rambling thread!

I have been thinking a lot about Yin and Yang lately.

The way I see it, a lot of problems in the world are caused by people not feeling at harmony or at peace with the duality in life, which is in all things.

As for evil, the way I see it, there is no evil except ignorance itself.....meaning evil stems from having forgotten who we truly are; our spiritual eyes are blinded; our souls desensitized.....as if a part of us inside....our true selves....are asleep.

I don't see how the 'Devil' can be the source of all evil and pure negativity. If he really was this evil, sadistic being, surely he would be doing it despite himself.....Because all things beautiful, all true joy; all of this- stems from God. Therefor, there would HAVE to come a Time when the Devil would real-eyes this and would want to redeem himself!
Therefor, it makes more sense to me that the Devil is not the source of all evil but is (if you believe in any of that) a part of this plan or experiment (that we all chose to experience); his role being God's right-hand man. That's all.

The only real evil is ignorance itself- that's what I feel.


My theory is that yin and yang exist because we are born into this world to experience duality.

What my QUESTION is right now is:
MUST WE ALWAYS BE AT THE MERCY OF OUR ENVIRONMENT? OF the never-ending 'karmic' cycles of life, SEASONS of life....JOY and SADNESS....pain and pleasure?

Is there any living human who has overcome the susceptibility and vulnerability we must ALL experience, no matter who we are?

I used to think that if someone became 'enlightened', then that is what would happen to them......but now I'm not so sure.


"You know the day destroys the night, night divides the day, try to run, try to hide, Break on through to the other side! Break on through to the other side!"

Try to run, try to hide- that's what people do when they are not at harmony/ peace with the duality. Maybe there is nothing to fear, one day it'll all become clear.
Break on through.....Is this what we can do? Can we overcome our circumstances/environmental influences to become 'invincible'?
Maybe no HUMAN can......Maybe we can only try our best?

I know this last part sounds 'far out' but I was wondering whether the 'Ascended Masters' have achieved such a thing? Hmmmm...

Well....I tried not to be too much of a long-winded Moon in Libra this Time

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ListensToTrees
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posted July 03, 2007 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
A few lines of this poem were use in the film "A.I.- Artificial Intelligence".

The Stolen Child

WHERE dips the rocky highland
Of Sleuth Wood in the lake,
There lies a leafy island
Where flapping herons wake
The drowsy water rats;
There we've hid our faery vats,
Full of berrys
And of reddest stolen cherries.
Come away, O human child!
To the waters and the wild
With a faery, hand in hand,
For the world's more full of weeping than you can understand.

Where the wave of moonlight glosses
The dim gray sands with light,
Far off by furthest Rosses
We foot it all the night,
Weaving olden dances
Mingling hands and mingling glances
Till the moon has taken flight;
To and fro we leap
And chase the frothy bubbles,
While the world is full of troubles
And anxious in its sleep.
Come away, O human child!
To the waters and the wild
With a faery, hand in hand,
For the world's more full of weeping than you can understand.

Where the wandering water gushes
From the hills above Glen-Car,
In pools among the rushes
That scare could bathe a star,
We seek for slumbering trout
And whispering in their ears
Give them unquiet dreams;
Leaning softly out
From ferns that drop their tears
Over the young streams.
Come away, O human child!
To the waters and the wild
With a faery, hand in hand,
For the world's more full of weeping than you can understand.

Away with us he's going,
The solemn-eyed:
He'll hear no more the lowing
Of the calves on the warm hillside
Or the kettle on the hob
Sing peace into his breast,
Or see the brown mice bob
Round and round the oatmeal chest.
For he comes, the human child,
To the waters and the wild
With a faery, hand in hand,
For the world's more full of weeping than he can understand.

William Butler Yeats

When we're feeling a melancholic nostalgia for 'home'

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thirteen
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posted July 03, 2007 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
Trees: I like what you posted in the first post. I think you have uncovered a major purpose of life. To learn to live in balance within the duality. To me it is just that simple but it took me um-teen years to get to that point where i could understand that. I think its a curse sometimes to be a deep thinker, wouldn't ya say?
To me the devil is the dark side of the duality. Its a concept.
My question is: What is the purpose of the duality? Why did we want to experience it?

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thirteen
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posted July 03, 2007 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
P.S. Trees: have you ever read eckhart tolle? I think you would get something out of his teachings.

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ListensToTrees
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posted July 03, 2007 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you for your thoughts, thirteen. I agree with your questioning- what was the purpose in our choice to experience duality? I would like to know, but it is deep and I feel it will take some Time, I/we may have to learn this in different stages/steps/layers.

No, I've not heard of the author. What did he go into, exactly?

Yes, it can be a curse to be a deep thinker. Blessing and a curse- there you go- duality again!

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ListensToTrees
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posted July 05, 2007 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
David Icke....Hmmm....Perhaps this world is really a 'matrix'?

Our minds are a matrix
Our faces are a mask
Our souls dwell within
Our eyes are the looking-glass

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Mannu
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posted July 06, 2007 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
Great post Listens.

To transcend duality is to transcend the Matrix that we live in. Surely duality was necessary for creation. Our brain works on the process of elimination before it reaches at a conclusion. It has long hairs, It is slim. It is fair. It is a woman. Your ego is happy with that information

Creation has its own place and must be respected. Everyone can and will one day transcend the matrix.

The night has to go followed by day. In genenis, it was night followed by day. Hence the jews clocks their day when night begins.


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Nephthys
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posted July 06, 2007 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Jesus said, how can we understand pleasure, if we don't first experience pain? How can we appreciate happiness, without knowing what sorrow is?

Perhaps the purpose of the duality is simply to know/understand/experience the difference.

I like your concept of the "Devil".

I don't believe that the "devil" is a "being" that runs around being the responsable party that instills "evil" upon the inhabitants of the world. No, siree, Bob!

The entity that we term the "devil" is simply a light being who "fell" from the Spirit world.

I agree with you, that evil is ignorance.

There is ignorance in those who commit murder. There is ignorance in those who commit abuse. There is ignorance in animal slaughter. There is ignorance in advanced nations not helping poor nations where people suffer under poverty and undeveloped/unsanitary/unhealthy living conditions. All of these conditions can be considered "hell" on earth.

Man was given free will upon the earth, and look what he has done!!

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Is there any living human who has overcome the susceptibility and vulnerability we must ALL experience, no matter who we are?

Perhaps the answer lies in the way we receive stimuli in our world, our perspective on things, how we handle and manage stress?

Good luck.

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ListensToTrees
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posted July 06, 2007 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I have finally found the inspiration/ motivation to delve into the vast catalogue of crystalinks which appears to have the answers/ articles in relation to all of the questions i have been asking
http://www.crystalinks.com/merkaba.html

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Come away, O human child!
To the waters and the wild
With a faery, hand in hand,
For the world's more full of weeping than you can understand. -W.B.Yeats

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Nephthys
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posted July 09, 2007 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
So then you didn't care for my answer????

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