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Goat Girl
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posted August 03, 2007 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Goat Girl     Edit/Delete Message
Hi everyone,
I am currently reading Gooberz and am at the place where the saturn seven cycle is explained. This has really shocked and thrown me and I'm desperate for some more 'enlightened' people to further explain it to me. What I am struggling to accept is that "if souls can exchange body temples every seven years, does this mean that the things I did seven or more years ago were possibly not me?". Like I said this has really gotten to me and I would greatly appreciate it if someone could shed some light on this for me.

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fayte.m
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posted August 03, 2007 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
If your body housed a different soul, it would not be you would it? I do not buy that tale. You could become a "hotel", but that is very bad.
However I am not going to post my view here beyond that.

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Goat Girl
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posted August 04, 2007 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Goat Girl     Edit/Delete Message
Yes I agree, however like I said I am really confused by that particular part in Gooberz that relates that the brain unto a generator that stores memories of the different souls who have resided in it. This does not sit well with me. Have you read Gooberz? If so what did you think of this particular part?

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fayte.m
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posted August 04, 2007 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
I do not believe that overshadowing or possession souls store memories in your permanent memory storage. Only you can store them there. If your body were stolen and your soul left it, your memories would be inaccessible to any other soul.
No I have not read it.

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Goat Girl
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posted August 04, 2007 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Goat Girl     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for your opinions - this has given me some things to think about and has made me feel a lot better

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Solane Star
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posted August 10, 2007 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message
GoatGirl I really think that Lotus is the one to address some of your thoughts here.

From what I've read around here, she seems to know alot about the saturn seven cycle.

I did notice though, that when you typed out your tite " saturn seven cycle ", that you don't CAP your " s's " you don't give the s-erpent s's any strengh. Nice!!!!

I learned that from Linda in reading Gooberz!!!

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fayte.m
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posted August 10, 2007 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
The SERPENT and SNAKE are not evil.....in MY opinion and the opinion of many; and as illustrated below is associated with Wisdom, Healing, Initiation.
To quote from some below....my boldeds.....
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The Sea Serpent possesses many virtues that are powerful and valuable and which any person would be wise to emulate or divine. One who has the power of the Sea Serpent will see enhanced attraction from the opposite sex and prolific business success.

The Majestic Sea Serpent Totem possesses the following virtues:
Enhanced powers of influence, enhanced physic abilities, improved business and social life, lucid dreaming, prophetic dreams, luck, beauty, astral projection, increased wealth, warding off of negative energy, occult power, spiritual development, charm, healing, and youthful energy.



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The Magnificent Snake Totem possesses the following virtues:
Wisdom, healing, intuition, awaking of creative forces, ability to handle change without resistance, new opportunities for change, material vitality, intellect, power over rashness in speech and thought, emotional control, increased sensitivity to the environment, increased powers of smell, transmutation, and increased powers of observation.

Now to continue......

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SNAKE

Wisdom, Healing, Initiation

This a powerful totem -- it is
the symbol of transformation and healing.
The Snake is wisdom expressed through healing.

The Snake is the symbol of eternity.

It is a protector and guardian totem,
along with its sister totems, the Dragon and the Serpent.

If a snake totem has come into your life, your creative forces are awakening.
Your intuition will sharpen and be more accurate.

Snake energy is the energy of wholeness, cosmic consciousness, and
the ability to experience anything willingly and without resistance.
It is the knowledge that all things are equal in creation.

It also signals a transition in your life.
New opportunities and/or changes.

Snake is fire medicine, the medicine of transmutation.
On a material level, it is vitality; on an emotional level, it is ambition and dreams;
on a mental level, it is intellect and power; on a spiritual level (the highest level),
it is wisdom, understanding and wholeness.

Snake magic is heavy magic.
Become the Magician and transmute the energy and accept the power of the fire.

The Snake is one of the symbols of Thoth.


http://www.linsdomain.com/totems/pages/snake.htm

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The Sea Serpent Totem (Water Dragon)

The mysterious secrets of the vast, deep Sea may never be fully known by Mankind. There are many regions, yet unexplored, in the depths of the Ocean, and even large lakes. The Sea Serpent is said to dwell in these unreachable places where few people can venture. Countless sightings of these creatures have been recorded from all over the world. However, it was not until the advent of widespread camera and video usage that solid historical recordings of these sightings could be gathered.

The most famous of Sea Serpents in recorded history are as follows: Nelly, The Lockness Monster; who dwells in the Lock Ness Lake in Northern Scotland. Sightings of Nelly, the Sea Serpent, has been recorded as far back as the 6th Century. In Sweden the Sea Serpent referred to as Storsjöodjuret, who inhabits the Great Lake in Central Sweden, has been avidly photographed and sighted for centuries. There is also, Altamaha-Ha, spotted in the Alamaha River in Georgia, US; Champ who has been seen hundreds of times by visitors and residents in Lake Champlain in New York State US; Lake Van Monster seen in Lake Van in Turkey, and Nahuelito, who has been found in Argentina's Nahuel Huapi Lake, to name but a few.

All the Lakes in which these creatures of the Sea have been found are very deep and largely unexplored. There is a theory that the serpents find their way into the lakes from an ocean entry, while still young and small, and grow much too large to escape back out into the channel. There have been large, deep underwater caverns found at the bottom of several of these lakes in which it is believed that the serpents live, and hide from curious eyes.

The Sea Serpent is an elusive and mysterious creature, with ancient wisdom and secrets only to be shared with a few. They are intriguing, powerful and fascinating.

This mighty and mysterious creature has been the inspiration of an immeasurable quantity of books, poems, songs, artwork, paintings and movies. Man has never lost his interest in Sea Serpent mythology and lore. In fact, rather than interest in this creature slowing down over thousands of years, it has only increased. The likeness of the Sea Serpent can be found in a myriad selection of art, statues and clothing. Few are immune to the mystery and lure of the elusive and majestic Sea Serpent. Many cultures and tribes recognize the Sea Serpent as the magical creature it is and either honor and respect it or fear and avoid it. One thing is for certain the Sea Serpent is one of the most fascinating and mysterious of all the Totems, as well as one of the most magically powerful.

The Sea Serpent possesses many virtues that are powerful and valuable and which any person would be wise to emulate or divine. One who has the power of the Sea Serpent will see enhanced attraction from the opposite sex and prolific business success.

The Majestic Sea Serpent Totem possesses the following virtues:
Enhanced powers of influence, enhanced physic abilities, improved business and social life, lucid dreaming, prophetic dreams, luck, beauty, astral projection, increased wealth, warding off of negative energy, occult power, spiritual development, charm, healing, and youthful energy.

Sea Serpent Pearls and Stones are said to impart their particular magical virtues to their owner. Sea Serpent Pearls are characteristic of its host; they possess all the magnificent characteristics that may be seen in the Sea Serpent itself; the magical and supernatural perspective of the Sea Serpent is contained within the pearl waiting for a suitable owner to bestow its inner magic to. One who possesses a Sea Serpent Pearl or Stone is indeed a unique and fortunate individual.

For century’s shamans, priestesses, wizards, witches, spiritualists and practitioners of the occult have used Sea Serpent Pearls and Stones in rituals, as they provide raw energy. They have also been used to transfer the powerful magical energy of the Sea Serpent to themselves and to others in need of this superior magic. Sea Serpent pearls are highly sought after by any wishing to absorb Sea Serpent virtues into their lives and develop stronger mental abilities such as those embodied by this Mystical and Magical Creature. The owner of a Sea Serpent pearl will see their lives, spiritual energy and mental clarity imbued with all of the virtues attributed to the Sea Serpent. The Sea Serpent totem is a powerful spirit and its supernatural properties are the most influential of all totems. Creation and magic, treasures from within and without, and so much more can be integrated into the spirit of the possessor of this magnificent Pearl and the Sea Serpent totem.
Copyright © 2006: Zahir Karbani UK Registration Number 253932
This article was published on Friday 16 June, 2006.
http://www.astralmagick.com/serpent-totem-a-16.html
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The Snake Totem

The snake dwells in so many places, climates and environments, comes in so many colors, shapes and sizes that this creature can be said to be one of the most versatile of all. Indeed snakes represent versatility, transmutation and change, their natural inclination to “shed their skins” leaving behind the old, and adapting to the new, supports this idea.

The snake has been, throughout the ages, controversial in many regards. Some see the snake as a bearer of evil or bad news, but most see the snake as the healer and spiritual icon that it is. The debate among Christain’s has always been whether the snake is the personification of evil or a holy and scared icon. There are many references to the snake in the bible, some portraying this creature as a bearer of evil, but most refer to its job as healer and spiritual muse. No where in the bible does it say that snakes are evil, however, like any creature, human or animal, they possess both noble and questionable qualities. Some people fear them and many more are charmed by them.

Most of us recognize the snake as the symbol of physicians and alchemists, which shows two snakes wrapped around a staff. This again, supports their totem reputation as healer. Snakes are highly respected in India and their lore and symbolism is highly regarded by their culture; Vitana, the mother of snakes, is the symbol of water and the underworld and the Goddess Shiva always wears snakes on her body as jewelry, which represents sexuality. American Indians also see the snake as a representation of fertility and healing.

Those who are said to posses Snake like qualities have control over their emotions, excellent intuition and the ability to heal quickly. They are slow to anger but have enormous coiled power within them and will strike with control and precision when they must. Some snake type people, like their reptile counterparts, will give their opponent fair warning before striking, others will attack powerfully and without any warning. Snakes rarely, if ever, attack unless provoked, which is an excellent lesson for all of us to learn. Others should be on their guard when in snake territory and should respect the snake’s province.

Snakes awaken spiritual and magical intuition in the person who chooses this totem or is chosen by it. Snakes are associated with unseen creative forces at work. With the snake totem the powers of intuition and observation becomes keener and more precise. As snakes represent change and intuition the combination of these characteristics will allow for great new developments in life and the proper instinct for deciding which changes will be effective and which should not be made. They represent openness to new experiences, and thus, opened horizons.

The Snake in the wild is generally clam and peaceful. They hunt for food when hungry and can go long periods of time without eating again. They bask on warm rocks and will usually not attack unless prompted. To annoy or provoke a snake is a very unwise mistake, which many people make. Because of their calm and somewhat shy nature, many believe that they are too still or quiet to be much harm, however, as many have discovered, while a snake may seem as though it is still and unaware, if pressed they can and will deliver a dangerous blow or bite, sometimes without warning, that can leave permanent damage or even cause death to its victim.

Snakes are very sensitive to their environment, they are silent, calm creatures and seem to be very serene on the outside, but within this animal is coiled power that can deliver lethal blows, with well timed and startling accuracy. The snake is a powerful totem, symbolizing eternity, wisdom, transformation and intuition. Their wisdom is expressed as healer and the snake has been used as a symbol of this for centuries.

The Magnificent Snake Totem possesses the following virtues:
Wisdom, healing, intuition, awaking of creative forces, ability to handle change without resistance, new opportunities for change, material vitality, intellect, power over rashness in speech and thought, emotional control, increased sensitivity to the environment, increased powers of smell, transmutation, and increased powers of observation.

Snake Animal Pearls are said to impart their particular magical virtues to their owner. Snake Pearls are characteristic of its host animal; they possess all the awesome characteristics that may be seen in the Snake itself; the stealth and power of this animal is contained within the pearl waiting for its proper owner to bestow its inner magic to that unique and fortunate individual. For century’s shamans, priestesses, spiritualists, and practitioners of the occult have used Snake animal pearls to transfer the powerful magical energy of the Snake to themselves and to others in need of this commanding animal magic. Snake pearls are sought after by any wishing to absorb Snake virtues into their lives and develop stronger mental abilities such as those embodied by this versatile creature. The owner of a Snake pearl will see their lives, spiritual energy, and mental clarity imbued with all of the virtues attributed to the Healer of the animal kingdom, the Snake.
Copyright © 2006: Zahir Karbani UK Registration Number 253932
This article was published on Friday 16 June, 2006.

For more see:
http://www.astralmagick.com/snake-animal-totem-a-33.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_%28symbolism%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros
The above edited to add quote references and highlighting, I was in a hurry this morning and did not have time to recheck my post and add quote references as needed. Links were Ok though.
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~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
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posted August 10, 2007 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/kuwait/557/ouroboros.html http://www.dragon.org/chris/ouroboros.html
http://www.wisdomportal.com/Ouroboros.html http://www.spirasolaris.ca/sbb4f.html

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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
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posted August 10, 2007 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message
Don't say that the snake was " The SERPENT and SNAKE are not evil.....?????

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fayte.m
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posted August 10, 2007 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Snake

(Science: zoology) Any species of the order ophidia; an ophidian; a serpent, whether harmless or venomous. see ophidia, and serpent.
snakes are abundant in all warm countries, and much the larger number are harmless to man. blind snake, garter snake, green snake, king snake, milk snake, rock snake, water snake, etc. see blind, garter, etc.
http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Snake

Serpent

1. (Science: zoology) Any reptile of the order ophidia; a snake, especially a large snake.

The serpents are mostly long and slender, and move partly by bending the body into undulations or folds and pressing them against objects, and partly by using the free edges of their ventral scales to cling to rough surfaces. many species glide swiftly over the ground, some burrow in the earth, others live in trees. A few are entirely aquatic, and swim rapidly. See ophidia, and fang. http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Serpents

Ophidia

(Science: zoology) The order of reptiles which includes the serpents.

The most important divisions are: the solenoglypha, having erectile perforated fangs, as the rattlesnake; the proteroglypha, or elapine serpents, having permanently erect fang, as the cobra; the Asinea, or colubrine serpents, which are destitute of fangs; and the Opoterodonta, or Epanodonta, blindworms, in which the mouth is not dilatable.

Origin: NL, fr. gr, dim. Of a snake.
http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Ophidia


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~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
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posted August 10, 2007 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message
I stand mys-ELF corrected!!!

It wasn't the Cap on the S'S that was so important, as it was the separation from some of the words. Separation being the " - " between the words!!!

You can find the information about the Serpent S on pages 346 to 349 of Linda Goodman's Book Star Signs!!!

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posted August 10, 2007 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
I am aware of that.

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~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
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