posted October 15, 2007 09:06 AM         

It talks about breaking the cycle of this, taking a step back, seeing things from the wider view and connecting with "the source" so that instead of taking each other's transient form of energy, we are always connected to an infinite source, and rather than take, be able to generate energy to others.
(That's my interpretation of it).

Does anyone know what I am going on about?

Because if you do, I would love to know....would love to know how to stay "connected".

Because as far as I'm concerned, right now, I don't see any way that this can be possible while in our flesh and blood bodies, or similar body. Body= matrix.

I wanna know what's beyond.

I see life for what it is, the game of life. I feel weary of it all.

posted October 15, 2007 10:14 AM         

Not sure if this is the direction u want the thread to go in, but my $0.02 anyways.

posted October 15, 2007 02:55 PM         

I beg to differ, gentle people. We are all connected all the time. We may not REMEMBER that little bit of information, but it is the truth. If you don't believe me, look into Quantum Physics a bit.

Mannu.. of course God receives Energy from us. We are All God, God-ding, to coin a phrase from the Conversations With God material by Neale Donald Walsch. If you aren't a fan of his work.. look at the illustrations that Linda produced in Gooberz about the continuous flow of Energy from the Above to the Below and back again. Evolution and Involution.

We like to feel dis-connected when we are down and blue, but we have only to remeber that we are ALL God, and that She has sent us nothing but Angels. (whether it SEEMS like that or not. Seems being the key word there! Spiral on that for a bit!)

In the Light...

A

posted October 15, 2007 05:23 PM         

Also, She/ He needs to think how She/ He created pedophiles, psychopaths and reptilians!

Ok, so we're connected all the Time.

What I want to know then is how can we change/ end this POINTLESS drama of the energy struggle and lack of understanding, empathy, here on Earth.

Sometimes I just keep thinking to myself that if it wasn't for our flesh and blood bodies, then we would be free.

And it upsets me when people always assume this has only to do with humans. It has to do with everyOne.

The energy struggle is represented in the so-called "food chain".

The energy struggle is represented in fear- the fear all creatures have for survival and for the survival of their young.

The energy struggle is represented in our relationships and in our egos; the fear of being disliked, losing reputation, etc.

Most of the problems in the world, I feel, are simply caused by a lack of understanding.

If not ALL of the problems in the world

But how can we gain such complete, pure understanding whilst bound to the needs and the limitations of the flesh and blood body, only being able to feel partial empathy towards other souls inside their bodies.....the book and the cover......

And because we have to live in this body, we must follow the needs of it, wherever those needs may take us.

If there is any sort of imbalance where the nurture of the mind, body and soul are concerned........
if there is something a soul lacked in their childhood, for example, which they still haven't been able to work through all alone......

Then a mind/body/soul organism simply has to suffer and endure until.....and if.....the remedy becomes available.

posted October 15, 2007 06:37 PM         

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We like to feel dis-connected when we are down and blue, but we have only to remember that we are ALL God, and that She has sent us nothing but Angels.

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I agree! Tantra teachings run similar to this as well. We are all Gods and Goddesses and learning to recognize it in yourself and others is half the battle.

posted October 15, 2007 07:29 PM         

I think God is like a rich merchant that only allows us one of his play grounds for us to play on

Aselzion - Appreciate your comments. Perhaps we are conduits of energy i.e they flow thru us. How do we give energy back to God? All of creation is dependent on God I think. I'll read Linda Goodman , because I think she was part of the secret order or associated in some way. There are many secret orders, I think she was Rosucian (did i spell correct?)
Gooberz - wow i heard its pretty advanced material. Its on my list of books. But did she ever complete it? I think its time I read my first book of LG

posted October 16, 2007 06:23 AM         

All around me are familiar faces
Worn out places, worn out faces
Bright and early for their daily races
Going nowhere, going nowhere
And their tears are filling up their glasses
No expression, no expression
Hide my head I want to drown my sorrow
No tomorrow, no tomorrow

And I find it kind of funny
I find it kind of sad
The dreams in which I'm dying
Are the best I've ever had
I find it hard to tell you
cos I find it hard to take
When people run in circles
Its a very, very
Mad world

Children waiting for the day they feel good
Happy birthday, happy birthday
Made to feel the way that every child should
Sit and listen, sit and listen
Went to school and I was very nervous
No one knew me, no one knew me
Hello teacher tell me whats my lesson
Look right through me, look right through me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urW5lfAcaM8

posted October 16, 2007 06:51 AM         

So if we can stop believing that someone is "taking" something vital from us when they hurt us (mentally, emotionally, physically) then we can let them carry on their own drama without taking part in it ourselves.

Nobody can take your Spirit. That's your connected, boundless "energy" source. The mediators between your body and your Spirit are, simply put, your mind and soul. So your thoughts and feelings are the bridge between the form and the formless. If you understand and truly know that no one can take who you really are (above and beyond this physical world) what does it matter if they want to "one up" you? They can't, truly, but the illusion is alluring for many.

Likewise, if everyone thought this way, there'd be no reason to try and "one up" anybody else. If we're all the energy source then we share that same energy. You can't actually rob yourself. And if you hurt me, you're really just hurting you. Rationally, no one would want to do that.

In a less abstract manner ... say that Bob and Nancy got in an argument. They can both stand around and yell and whine and moan at each other until one of them gives up and ends up feeling drained while the other walks away on a temporary energy "high". Or, one of them can realize the sheer absurdity of the situation. Is there really a reason to yell and whine and moan at this person? What are you trying to accomplish? Will those actions resolve the underlying issue? Chances are, no. So, say Nancy stands apart from the situation for a minute ... instead of seeing Nancy being attacked she sees two humans in a futile ego battle that will in no way solve the problem that they are facing. Instead of feeding Bob's anger with more anger, she can remain calm. Her energy isn't coming from Bob's anger now. It's coming from herself and her own ability to see the situation from a higher perspective. Once Bob realizes that Nancy isn't going to play his game then there's no point in going on with it. It loses its appeal and he's not going to get that energy or ego boost. So he can do what she did. Or feel like a fool and apologize and put the attention back on the real conflict. Or he can walk away and find someone else to engage in battle. And if Bob doesn't give up ... what does Nancy have to "gain" from the situation if she sticks around? She's not concerned with "saving face" anymore, is she? So if she walks away, she is still Nancy. And Bob is still Bob ... just on a blind rant, atm.

posted October 16, 2007 07:02 AM         

It's the way that society is constructed that is the problem.
You could save the lives of a number of people. These people may then go on to abuse animals.

You could save the lives of animals, but they may go on to hunt and kill other innocent animals, sometimes just for fun/ through instinct, as in the case sometimes with cats (not all), killer whales, etc.

Where does it begin, and where does it end?

posted October 16, 2007 07:55 AM         

It's people. The choices we make every minute. Who makes you respond angrily? Not feel anger but respond in an angry manner. Who forces you against your will to say, think, feel and do things? Even if the choice is do as they command or die ... most people will choose to submit. (I'm not saying they're making a right or a wrong choice, btw.)

The point is not to be a "good" person in the hopes that you will somehow make other people be "good", too, imo. The point is to be "good" because it's what you want to do/be, no matter what. And I really believe that one day everyone will make the same choice. But just because others around me give in to being "bad" that doesn't mean I should give all "good" up as a lost cause or give up on myself. (I use quotations because alot of people have different ideas about what is good and bad.) And that's where tolerance and patience come in. Can we learn to tolerate to some degree people who are different and, by our standards, bad? Can we learn to be patient with people who aren't good enough? To someone out there we may be just as bad (or not good enough), too. And what about the truly evil-doers in the world? What to do with them?

All in all, I think the life we are living right now is the life that we, for some perhaps unknown spiritual reason, is the life we need to be living. We have a lesson to learn from it, yes, even if it is a harsh one from our current perspective. (That kind of thinking angers people sometimes but it's my belief, that's all.) But we get so attached to forms ... our form, her form, his form, this form, that form, the form I think should be, the form I deserve, the form that would be best for everyone ... that we don't see the useful things within our immediate realm. We tend to judge constantly. What is ever good enough? There's rational this-is-needed-for-practical-purpose-whatever judgement. And then there's this-world-sucks-because-I-don't-like-how-things-are-working-out-right-now. The first leads to solutions. The second leads to self-pity.

Just my opinions of course. And it's also just my opinion that God/dess is not an idiot. Everything in the world may not be "perfect" but I don't think it was designed to be "perfect" in the first place. Humans have a lot of leeway in our decision making and we literally create the world every minute. But in the end, no matter how far we may stray from the original intentions of this design, we will find that we cannot destroy or completely mar Life itself. Somehow or other, all our trials and tribulations will serve to make us reach our/their goal. To me, that goal is choosing to love and live a life that leads us back to recognition and active participation with the one Source ... and then fulfilling the necessary tasks from then on with love. And that life, the things we need to do within it, will always change. Because the closer you get to the Source, the more you will understand. (Whether or not we will ever understand it in its entirety I can't begin to say. Is there anyone who truly understands every last aspect of themselves?) With greater understanding comes greater responsibility. Whereas before, say, not hitting people was enough, now not wanting to hit people is required. Then not thinking about hitting people becomes necessary. And onward and upward every moment.

posted October 16, 2007 09:27 AM         

I do hope that we can all find a way out of our bondage.

I do feel that evil only exists because of ignorance/ blindness to the truth caused by the veil/ our programming......therefore I feel that "To understand all is to forgive all", "Forgive them. They know not what they do".

"Ohana means family. Family means no-one gets left behind".

I am so worried about this world, the nature of this existence and the perpetual pain going round and round and round in an endless and blind cycle of karma.

A little suffering isn't so bad. It's the extremities I cannot accept as having a good reason.....the torture of the innocent and vulnerable.

There is no proof for karma, etc. I would like to believe that everything happens for a reason, but I need proof of this, not blind faith.

I need to know why everything is the way it is to find the fuel to motivate me to do something about it. I am not content with living my whole life just to pay a mortgage, etc.

I want to know why this world became the way it did. I want to understand why it became a spirit prison.

Only when I understand these things can I know how exactly I can help to change it all.

For every story I've ever read about the torture of children, animals, or anyone else (for I feel we're all children deep down, although children do suffer so much more acutely because they are several times more sensitive than when they are adults)......every story I ever come across is a pain that goes into my heart and soul where it will stay to haunt me forever until I figure out what I can do to help change things- for once and for all.

posted October 16, 2007 10:41 AM         

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There is no proof for karma, etc. I would like to believe that everything happens for a reason, but I need proof of this, not blind faith.

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posted October 16, 2007 11:50 AM         

We create what we believe!

This matrix we are in somehow became conscious of itself....perhaps.....either that or we are pretending that we are the ones who are being controlled, rather than we are the ones who are Gods and Goddesses.....Gods in amnesia.....the Dream-Makers, and not the Dream.....

Its as if.....

This dream we created somehow, at some point took over????

If we believe we will see Jesus when we cross over, our minds will create this reality.....if we believe we will see Krishna, etc, etc etc....if we believe in demons (in this life or the next) our thoughts can manifest them.....

posted October 16, 2007 05:12 PM         

Pretty painful, but when love is found it becomes less painful.

Just need to find more love in my life. I'm sure it will happen.....when the time is right.

posted October 16, 2007 05:21 PM         

Therefore, our Higher Self choses the experiences we need the most, for our development in the long run, the bigger picture.

Often, we have to experience great pain for ourselves in order to attain a deep, deeper affinity and compassion.

Perhaps our consciousness, in the present, the "now", has the Free Will as it were to chose whether it moves forward or stagnates.
And how far it may move forward.

How much of an impact it may have.....

Just like in the film.....

posted October 20, 2007 07:10 PM         

My questions have been answered!

David Icke's latest talk at Mount Shasta is incredible!

Go to the website if you are interested. Over 5 hours long- it's something you pay for to watch right now, which is fair enough. (In time I expect it'll become more available).

I wish I could broadcast this talk to the entire world loud and clear from the sky!

Wow!

Now I know how to "stay connected".