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yourfriendinspirit
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posted November 11, 2007 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yourfriendinspirit     Edit/Delete Message
Human Tails not Tales

The phenominon is quite rare but all the same REAL...


This Muslim Baby is now being worshipped by Hindus, the baby has nine spots on his body said to be like Lord Hanuman, the tail is but one of these signs...
Locals pay money throughout the temples in order to view and touch him. He is believed by many to be Lord Hanuman's most recent incarnation. Helings are said to take place as are spiritual awakening by the very touch of him.

Cambodians do also, revere this being born with a tail as ONE of the signs of reincarnated revered masters
article #1 Story About A Baby GIRL recently born


MORE FACTS AND THOUGHTS ON HUMAN TAILS:

--The prolongation of the coccyx sometimes takes the shape of a caudal extremity in man. Broca and others claim that the sacrum and the coccyx represent the normal tail of man, but examples are not infrequent in which there has been a fleshy or bony tail appended to the coccygeal region. Traditions of tailed men are old and widespread, and tailed races were supposed to reside in almost every country. There was at one time an ancient belief that all Cornishmen had tails, and certain men of Kent were said to have been afflicted with tails in retribution for their insults to Thomas a Becket. Struys, a Dutch traveler in Formosa in the seventeenth century, describes a wild man caught and tied for execution who had a tail more than a foot long, which was covered with red hair like that of a cow.

The Niam Niams of Central Africa are reported to have tails smooth and hairy and from two to ten inches long. Hubsch of Constantinople remarks that both men and women of this tribe have tails. Carpus, or Berengarius Carpensis, as he is called, in one of his Commentaries said that there were some people in Hibernia with long tails, but whether they were fleshy or cartilaginous could not be known, as the people could not be approached. Certain supposed tailed races which have been described by sea-captains and voyagers are really only examples of people who wear artificial appendages about the waists, such as palm-leaves and hair. A certain Wesleyan missionary, George Brown, in 1876 spoke of a formal breeding of a tailed race in Kali, off the coast of New Britain. Tailless children were slain at once, as they would be exposed to public ridicule. The tailed men of Borneo are people afflicted with hereditary malformation analogous to sexdigitism. A tailed race of princes have ruled Rajoopootana, and are fond of their ancestral mark. There are fabulous stories told of canoes in the East Indies which have holes in their benches made for the tails of the rowers. At one time in the East the presence of tails was taken as a sign of brute force.

There was reported from Caracas the discovery of a tribe of Indians in Paraguay who were provided with tails. The narrative reads somewhat after this manner: One day a number of workmen belonging to Tacura Tuyn while engaged in cutting grass had their mules attacked by some Guayacuyan Indians. The workmen pursued the Indians but only succeeded in capturing a boy of eight. He was taken to the house of Senor Francisco Galeochoa at Posedas, and was there discovered to have a tail ten inches long. On interrogation the boy stated that he had a brother who had a tail as long as his own, and that all the tribe had tails.

Aetius, Bartholinus, Falk, Harvey, Kolping, Hesse, Paulinus, Strauss, and Wolff give descriptions of tails. Blanchard says he saw a tail fully a span in length: and there is a description in 1690 of a man by the name of Emanuel Konig, a son of a doctor of laws who had a tail half a span long, which grew directly downward from the coccyx and was coiled on the perineum, causing much discomfort. Jacob describes a pouch of skin resembling a tail which hung from the tip of the coccyx to the length of six inches. It was removed and was found to be thicker than the thumb, consisted of distinctly jointed portions with synovial capsules. Gosselin saw at his clinic a caudal appendix in an infant which measured about ten cm. Lissner says that in 1872 he assisted in the delivery of a young girl who had a tail consisting of a coccyx prolonged and covered with skin, and in 1884 he saw the same girl, at this time the tail measuring nearly 13 cm.

Virchow received for examination a tail three incheinches long amputated from a boy of eight weeks. Ornstein, chief physician of the Greek army, describes a Greek of twenty-six who had a hairless, conical tail, free only at the tip, two inches long and containing three vertebrae. He also remarks that other instances have been observed in recruits. Thirk of Broussa in 1820 described the tail of a Kurd of twenty-two which contained four vertebrae. Belinovski gives an account of a hip-joint amputation and extirpation of a fatty caudal extremity, the only one he had ever observed.

Before the Berlin Anthropological Society there were presented two adult male Papuans, in good health and spirits, who had been brought from New Guinea; their coccygeal bones projected 1 1/2 inches. Oliver Wendell Holmes in the Atlantic Monthly, June, 1890, says that he saw in London a photograph of a boy with a considerable tail. The "Moi Boy" was a lad of twelve, who was found in Cochin China, with a tail a foot long which was simply a mass of flesh. Miller tells of a West Point student who had an elongation of the coccyx, forming a protuberance which bulged very visibly under the skin. Exercise at the riding school always gave him great distress, and the protuberance would often chafe until the skin was broken, the blood trickling into his boots.

Bartels presents a very complete article in which he describes 21 persons born with tails, most of the tails being merely fleshy protuberances. Darwin speaks of a person with a fleshy tail and refers to a French article on human tails.

Science contains a description of a child born near Louisville, eight weeks old, with a pedunculated tail 2 1/2 inches long, with a base 1 1/4 inches in circumference. The tail resembled in shape a pig's tail and had grown 1/4 inch since birth. It showed no signs of cartilage or bone, and had its origin from a point slightly to the left of the median line and about an inch above the end of the spinal column.

Dickinson recently reported the birth of a child with a tail. It was a well-developed female between 5 1/2 and six pounds in weight. The coccyx was covered with the skin on both the anterior and posterior surfaces. It thus formed a tail of the size of the nail of the little finger, with a length of nearly 3/16 inch on the inner surface and 3/8 inch on the rear surface. This little tip could be raised from the body and it slowly sank back.

Source: Technical Medicine; Anomalies and Curiosities of Medicine -CHAPTER VI
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posted November 11, 2007 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
That little boy is SO cute!!!!

I was born with just a tiny "tail", barely noticeable. Perhaps I'm part hamster.

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posted November 11, 2007 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
There was at one time an ancient belief that all Cornishmen had tails

Gosh.

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posted November 11, 2007 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yourfriendinspirit     Edit/Delete Message
This is exactly why I just researched this material...

There should be something in here for your discovery

Caution:
This link has some more pictures of people with tails,
though I do not promote the reading material at the site in ANY way or form!


EDITED TO ADD:
Now Here For Your Viewing Pleasure Is A Video Of A Young Man In Moscow That Is Able To Control The Movements Of His Tail!

Click Here <-really cool

His name is Oleg, he is said to be the only man currently living to be able to control the movements, as he has muscle, cartilage and even some hair there...
Most do not have cartilage.

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posted November 11, 2007 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Those do not seem to be real tails.
Tails generally have a vertebrae within them.
The tails in the pictures are not connected to the end of the coccyx, but higher up. These look more like pseudopod "tails" or a muscular or fleshy tendril.
I wonder if they can move them?
I was born with a coccyx extension. But only like a 1/2 inch. It broke and was reabsorbed by my body after a automobile accident.

quote:
Coccyx

The coccyx, or tailbone, is the remnant of a lost tail. All mammals have a tail at one point in their development; in humans, it is present for a period of 4 weeks, during stages 14 to 22 of human embryogenesis. This tail is most prominent in human embryos 31-35 days old. The tailbone, located at the end of the spine, has lost its original function in assisting balance and mobility, though it still serves some secondary functions, such as being an attachment point for muscles, which explains why it has not degraded further. In rare cases a short tail can persist after birth, with 23 human babies possessing tails having been reported in the medical literature since 1884. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_vestigiality#_note-


Wow! I did not know they were that rare!

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posted November 11, 2007 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yourfriendinspirit     Edit/Delete Message
Here's an article displaying some tail envy
Prehensile tails for humans

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~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
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posted November 12, 2007 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Toddler with eight limbs branded 'reincarnation of Hindu god' to undergo life-saving operation
05.11.07


(more pics at link)

A toddler born with eight limbs and believed by some to be the reincarnation of the multi-limbed Hindu goddess Vishnu, is set to undergo a 40-hour operation to remove half of her limbs.

Lakshmi Tatma was born joined to a 'parasitic twin' and will go under the knife at the hands of 30 surgeons to remove two of her useless arms and legs.

The headless 'twin' is joined to Lakshmi at the pelvis and has its own spinal column and kidney.

Without the operation the little girl would never be able to walk or crawl and would be unlikely to live past her early teens, doctors said.

The extraordinary eight-limbed baby was born in a poverty-stricken region of Bihar, India - on the day devoted to the celebration of the four-armed Hindu deity Vishnu.

Her mother Poonam Tatma said she believed her daughter was "a miracle, a reincarnation" of Vishnu.

Dr Sharan Patil, who will be leading the surgery at the country's Narayana Health City, in Bangalore, said: "Fortunately, Lakshmi has one complete body with a near perfect set of organs.

"Her skeletal system involves two bodies which are fused together at the level of the pelvis.

"The operation itself, although presents several challenges, is not the most complex in the world. What is highly unusual in Lakshmi's case is precisely how her bodies are fused, almost mirroring each other."

Parents Poonam Devi and Shambu Das, who earn about 50p a day as casual labourers, were turned away from several hospitals before her plight was taken up by Dr Patil.

The operation is expected to cost about £100,000.

Poonam, who gave birth to Lakshmi on the celebration day of the four-armed Hindu goddess of wealth and prosperity after whom the new born was named, said: "She is a miracle, a special blessing from God. But she is my daughter and she cannot live like this."

Laskhmi is the subject of a Channel 4 documentary as part of the Bodyshocks series.

http://ww w.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23419627-details/Toddler+with+eight+limbs+branded+'reincarnation+of+Hindu+god'+to+undergo+life-saving+operation/article.do

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posted November 12, 2007 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
Its one of those human evolution mysteries perhaps.

Nothing to do with Avatars.

In hinduism Gods are portrayed with 4 hands to make them look superior to earthlings.


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posted November 12, 2007 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
"In hinduism Gods are portrayed with 4 hands to make them look superior to earthlings."

Hm.... I learned somewhere that it had to do with the 8 Limbs & 4 types of Yoga.
Will have to research this more. Thanks.

(i agree that the girl probably isnt an avatar and it more of a deformation )

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