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Topic: Psychoactivity, The Fountain of Culture
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Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 5507 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted November 13, 2007 05:22 PM
"We shamans are from the time before religion. Religion is for those who cannot see." ~ Nepalese Shaman Psychoactivity The Fountain of Culture
A lecture on Shamanism, as it is practiced by the shaman-monks in Nepal, and on the origins of civilization: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7140377 893864168262&q=shamanism+nepal&total=9&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1
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Mannu Knowflake Posts: 1373 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 13, 2007 09:33 PM
Excellent dig
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Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 5507 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted November 14, 2007 01:24 PM
Mannu, It's not a "dig".
You and I just happen to have very different views, almost polar opposites, so, it makes sense that we will challenge each other frequently. (If you feel your views being threatened, do not project the responsibility for that onto me, but look within and listen to your doubts. Question everything. Start with yourself.) Also, I present my views provocatively, because, well, frankly, thats just the sort of revolutionary genius I am. Kidding. Don't hate me. Watch the video instead. You never know; you might learn something.
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Mannu Knowflake Posts: 1373 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 14, 2007 01:38 PM
Oh oh. You misunderstood me. I meant it in a positive way really. I did watch the video. Its a treasure find.IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 10655 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted November 14, 2007 01:39 PM
quote: thats just the sort of revolutionary genius I am.
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Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 5507 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted November 14, 2007 01:43 PM
"A primitive cosmic being of divine-animal nature, on the one hand superior to man because of his superhuman qualities, and on the other hand inferior to him because of his unreason and unconsciousness. The more civilized we become, the more we will blame a "shadow" for our misfortunes. Like the trickster of old, the shadow represents a quality that isn't accepted into the awareness. It can 'pester' us unmercifully but always has a gift for us, a missing quality, an attitude needed to cope, or self-realization." ~ Carl Jung, The Trickster Archetype, Coyote The trickster is an important archetype in the history of man. He is a god, yet he is not. He is the wise-fool. It is he, through his creations that destroy, points out the flaws in carefully constructed societies of man. He rebels against authority, pokes fun at the overly serious, creates convoluted schemes, that may or may not work, plays with the Laws of the Universe and is sometimes his own worst enemy. He exists to question, to cause us to question not accept things blindly. He appears when a way of thinking becomes outmoded needs to be torn down built anew. He is the Destroyer of Worlds at the same time the savior of us all.
The Trickster lives inside and outside of Time. He is of our world, yet not of our world, so our laws will not always apply. Other symbols, associated with him include keys, clock, masks, infinity among other mythological images Trickster is a creator, a joker, a truth teller, a story teller, a transformer linked to the spiritual frequency changes humanity is experiencing at this time. We seem most accessible to the synchronistic gifts of the Trickster when we ourselves are at or near boundaries or are experiencing transition states, periods of major life transitions seem to be occasioned by an abundance of meaningful coincidence. Personal growth sees not only to facilitate synchronicity, but in turn to be facilitated by it. As an archetype, the Trickster, the boundary dweller, finds expression through human imagination and experience... Trickster is an alchemist. The Shamanic aspect that transforms or evolves... When you allow yourself to be abused, playing the victim, and remain stagnant in your life, the trickster aspect of you is in control... The concept of the Trickster is as much a part of humanity's history as the concept of God. All creational myths deal with polarity, good god vs. bad god, the duality of our nature and with each of us. To be emotionally challenged, is to listen to the voice of the trickster and live in a space of drama and negative emotions. To create balance is to live in the so-called 'god aspect' of who we are. Physical reality is a game in which the Trickster challenges us at every turn... With his lessons, he awakens us to who we are and allows us to explore the true purpose of our soul's journey in the holographic experience through which we experience consciously at this level of awareness. His energy allows us to break out of old stereotypes, whether they've been imposed by ourselves, our families, our culture, or circumstance. This is the energy that opens the world of limitless possibilities and it behooves us all to work with it before it destroys us, to touch the Trickster as he touches us. Trickster is a teacher, survivor, hero, always traveling, outrageous and cunning, foolish and wise, mischievous and often doing good despite himself. He is a metaphor for the evolution of consciousness in the alchemy of time. www.crystalinks.com/trickster.html IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 5507 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted November 14, 2007 01:45 PM
I'm glad I misunderstood you, Mannu.And glad you enjoyed the film. IP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 1373 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 14, 2007 09:39 PM
Oh Please Stephen Most in India knows that Shiva(Mahadev/Mahakala) is a very innocent deity. He is known to be dancing and having fun. Even drinking bhang an intoxicating. I think even Jesus was a fun guy, who used to enjoy banquets and drinking wine ..hehe.. There are some masters who take Ganja, but only after enlightenment (inner transformation of self). Its hard for them to stay in the body, that is why. Make sure you don't have any bad planets in 6th and 8th house before you continue that route. Does Ganja have DMT molecule in them? IP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 1373 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 14, 2007 09:42 PM
No, AG is my polar opposite as in star signs. Cappy/Cancer IP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 1373 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 14, 2007 09:57 PM
Am I missing something or what, Padma sambhava = Shiva.Interesting, I didn't know that.
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Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 5507 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted November 15, 2007 03:54 PM
"Oh Please Stephen"What r u talking about? I never mentioned Shiva. ---------------------------------- AG doesnt have Capricorn on the Ascendant (the house of the self), and Cancer on the 7th house (house of the opposite, or "other"). I do. IP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 1373 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 15, 2007 04:03 PM
>>What r u talking about?To your saying our views always clashes. I am sad you perceive it that way. I am just playing the devil's advocate deliberately. >>>I never mentioned Shiva. Well Mahakala is another name for Shiva in hinduism. Mahakali is the ferocious wife of Shiva. And Padma sambhava is considered a great deity in the buddhist world. I saw this video only once. And forgive me if I am jumping to conclusions, but I heard somewhere in that video where it made a connection between Mahakala and Padma sambhava. I am considered to be a cancer by sun placement and AG is a cappy I believe. I thought you speak of polar opposites on star signs. But I gather it applies to any planets/bodies. Sun sign is important to me in the sense it tells me where I need to work before I realize my true consciosness. If cancer, then I believe my fears are getting in the way. Although I thank God that I am very different in other aspects of what a cancer should be. Its a sign of development. Perhaps could be because I get the Leo energy also.
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AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 10655 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted November 15, 2007 04:23 PM
I didn't know you are a Cancer. IP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 1373 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 15, 2007 04:45 PM
What did you think I was? I am curious IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 10655 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted November 15, 2007 04:50 PM
No clue. I hadn't guessed.IP: Logged | |