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FirstSight
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From: City of Angels
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posted November 19, 2007 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FirstSight     Edit/Delete Message
Hi,

I just lost my father a couple of weeks ago and it is the most difficult experience of my life.
This is the first time I have lost anyone close to me, and honestly, it has made me more negative than ever in regards to life after death.
His death was a surprise and still a bit uncomfortable. I am not a religious person only spiritual and since then, my spirit has been craving any religious experience in order to be closer to my father.

I am just wondering if anyone has been through a similar experience and can share or if anyone knows a way in which to be closer to a loved one who has passed on?

Thanks,
Syrena

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yourfriendinspirit
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posted November 19, 2007 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yourfriendinspirit     Edit/Delete Message
Hello, Syrena..
Welcome to the forums.

I too lost a parent (my mother) in June, of last year. It is especially difficult to handle the physical death of a loved one without a clear idea of the afterlife...

Further more there's all that self pity we go through of not having the parent available to us and our family.

You may find yourself inadvertently going to call him on the telephone one day to share a life event or feeling depressed when your child (their grandchild) cannot share time with him. Lot's of little things will seem to always remind you and trigger the sadness.

The best advice that one really can give you here, is to seriously consider some grief counseling. Many hospitals, nursing homes, hospice programs, and even health departments offer this service FREE of charge.

It should not be veiwed as being weak or failing... to be at a loss and a bit beside yourself with emotions at this time, is VERY natural. It's a great idea to seek assistance physically where you are located and to have a person educated and really experienced with this taking you by the hand right now. This could seriously be a blessing.

Your family may not be the best source of support right now as they too are dealing with this loss. Your friends may not quite understand the situation and it's severity, particularly if they view you as a confident or strong person.

My heart is with you

I can assure you that time does help some...

In time, you will sense and be reminded of all the good things you two shared rather than recognize so clearly all the things you are misssing or will miss.

you asked: "a way in which to be closer to a loved one who has passed on"

I have answers for you here -but, really it's important for you to share your comfort level first. I'm not really sure where you are at this point in your spiritual path nor where you've been...

When and if you do choose to investigate this area further, I'd be more than happy to hold your hand. I'll share my own experiences freely, as well as any healing that has come of it. Here's my email feel free to use it as needed. yourfriendinspirit@gmail.com

*Hang in there...

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Mirandee
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posted November 19, 2007 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
So sorry about the loss of your dad, Firstsight

"I am just wondering if anyone has been through a similar experience and can share or if anyone knows a way in which to be closer to a loved one who has passed on?"

Talk to your dad, Syrena . We can communicate with those who pass on before us. Your dad will hear you. He is still close to you. Talk to him just as you always did.

You may get indications he has heard you through feelings or thoughts that may just pop into your head, or a song you may hear that deals with what you were talking to your father about. Something someone else says that just clicks. Mostly with me it was inward feelings and things that came to my mind. I just sensed that was my dad or my mom. I lost my brother too who was only a year and a half older than me. Whenever they just pop into my mind I know they are communicating with me and near me. At times like that I say hello and talk to them.

That was my experience when both my dad, my mom and my brother died. With my mom when I think of her or talk to her I sometimes get the smell of flowers around me. Other times I just get a feeling of peace or happiness from feeling them near.

I believe that our loved ones are always with us in spirit. That bond between you and those you love is eternal. It can't be broken even with death. The bond is even more strong with family members.

Death is a loss to us because we miss the physical contact and presence of those we love. We grieve their absence. But their souls live on eternally and they are continuing their journey in a new realm.

I had a dream once that was so real to me. I was soaring above a clift that had a river flowing from a church. I felt so free and happy and at peace. I could see my husband by the church and he was crying and grieving. I was trying to communicate with him and I told him, " Please don't cry, I'm very happy and at peace."

I realized that in the dream I was dead to this life. But I wasn't really dead at all. I could see my husband and I felt his pain and sadness. I tried to communicate and console him. I think that is what death is like. Our loved ones who have died do see us and they do try to reach out and console us.

They have only died to this world but their soul lives on and they are at peace and that peace is beyond all human imagination or feeling. So is their happiness.

I hope this helps. I am so inept and awkward in situations like this reaching for the right words. But your dad is still near you in spirit. He still carries that love for you into the next life and will for eternity. You will see him again one day when your journey in this realm is over and you journey onto in the next life. He will be there to greet you. In the meantime, he is always with you in spirit because he is connected to you by an unbreakable bond of love.


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Mannu
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posted November 19, 2007 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
Hello FirstSight,

Heaps of Love.

I am sorry I don't have experience with professional people who can talk with people who crossed the veil. So perhaps my advice will not matter to you if thats what you are looking for.

I personally don't think it makes sense for you to contact your father. You must just let him be and be in peace whereever he is.

Since its already a week, perhaps your prayers can reach him. If I was you , I would pray that he achieve what ever he needs to in his next life.

If there are unresolved questions perhaps you must seek grief counselling (professional or friends). It just helps talking because you are unburdening your heart that way and you get a different perspective to some of your questions.

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guy_me_19
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posted November 19, 2007 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for guy_me_19     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Syrena, I am very sorry to hear about your terrible loss. May his soul rest in peace.

Besides other mediums your DREAMS will be quite an effective mode of communication. I believe he must have started to come in your dreams by now itself like he was not gone but is still there. Document in a diary (in the form of prose or poetry) your meetings with him in dreams, it will be an indispensable diary to turn back to and re-read in your later years.

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Mirandee
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From: South of the Thumb Taurus, Pisces, Cancer
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posted November 19, 2007 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
Just to clarify. When I spoke of talking to your dad, Syrena I meant a dialog in your mind. Telepathy so to speak.

My dialogs with my dad were in my mind. The feelings were in my senses.

Speaking for myself I was not talking about " crossing the veil" or anything to do with seances or anything of that nature. I don't get into that kind of thing.

I do believe that we can have a mental dialog with those that have gone before us. It has been my experience. There is still a connection. It is often referred to in some religions as "communion with the saints."

If it gives you peace and helps you through the grief process,Syrena, talk to your dad mentally, in your mind. I personally find that very consoling.

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BlueRoamer
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posted November 20, 2007 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
FirstSight, you have my deepest sympathies.

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26taurus
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posted November 20, 2007 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message

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Astralmuse
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posted November 20, 2007 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astralmuse     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
I am not a religious person only spiritual and since then, my spirit has been craving any religious experience in order to be closer to my father.
Have you considered speaking to someone in a religious order? A minister, priest, monk, or rabbi is trained to assist people through the grieving process and offer spiritual comfort. If there is a religious tradition you feel drawn to, that may be a source of strength and understanding for you. If you don't feel like that is something you want to explore, then just meditation would be worth considering. That doesn't require a particular religious affiliation.

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...a way in which to be closer to a loved one who has passed on?
Watch one of his favorite movies. Read a book he enjoyed. Listen to his favorite song. There are many small ways to connect with the times you shared and "feel his presence." The bond that you had and all the love is still there, it doesn't suddenly stop, it will just transform in expression. So instead of getting a phone call, you will see a cardinal bird outside your window (if Dad liked the Cardinals baseball team, for example).

Please post again and let us know how you are doing. You and your father will be in my prayers and meditative thoughts.

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Mannu
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posted November 20, 2007 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
Your father has not died. Death is an illusion. The lessons he taught ought to stay with you. What he taught your hands must do.

The sense of Justice he taught , apply it to your life and those around you.

If you have reason to believe your father was not prepared for his death and he seemed confused/unprepared let us know.

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BlueTopaz124
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posted November 20, 2007 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
Syrena,

I am very sorry for your loss and understand very much what you are going through now.

I lost my mother when I was 26 and never felt a loss so greatly; I truly felt a pain in my chest around my heart and it took a long time for the ache to go away. This started my spiritual search since I needed to know what really happens when we die. One early source of comfort and relief was a dream I had talking to my mother 3 months after her death, she reassured me of her death, but that she was there. I've learned a lot since then and have never felt closer to either my mother or my father as I do now.

My father, with whom I was very close to all my life, also passed away in February 2005. Because of what I learned since my mother's death, it was slightly easier for me to handle losing my father, even though there is an emptiness that can't ever be replaced. I now know that we never really lose those we love, for a couple of reasons: love never dies, and those who loved you during your life will always be around you.

It is far too soon now for you to feel too much beyond the pain and grief from your loss, which is normal. Give yourself some tender loving care right now and be around people who give you comfort. Seek out someone, a counselor who can help you manage your emotions. Also, as mentioned by others here, talk to someone who can help you spiritually during this dark time for you. Listen to your heart and follow your instincts about contact from your father. He will let you know in ways that may surprise you in some ways and others, not so surprising. Trust that it will happen.

I sought out every possible answer to my millions of questions, and synchronicity had a way of working in my life to bring people and situations into my life to answer these questions. It was amazing and I am nowhere near the same person that I was at the beginning of my search.

One thing I can tell you, is to believe and have faith; never fear, your father is closer to you than you may realize.

Remember, when we ask, we receive.

Laura

If you want to email me, feel free to do so, my email is avalon321@earthlink.net. Take good care.

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guy_me_19
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posted November 22, 2007 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for guy_me_19     Edit/Delete Message
"And what is it to work with love?

It is to weave the cloth with threads drawn from your heart, even as if your beloved were to wear that cloth.

It is to charge all things you fashion with a breath of your own spirit...

...And to know that all the blessed dead are standing about you and watching." Kahlil Gibran, The chapter, 'Work', The Prophet

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sesame
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posted November 22, 2007 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message

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