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ListensToTrees
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posted March 10, 2008 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4951448613711060908


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"To err is human, to forgive divine"
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"It's just a ride & we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings & money, a choice, right now, between fear & love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your door, buy guns, close yourself off, the eyes of love instead see all of us as one".....
~Bill Hicks

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posted March 10, 2008 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message
Cool, just watched it ty

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posted March 11, 2008 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Just finished watching it.

WOW!!!!

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"To err is human, to forgive divine"
~Alexander Pope

"It's just a ride & we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings & money, a choice, right now, between fear & love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your door, buy guns, close yourself off, the eyes of love instead see all of us as one".....
~Bill Hicks

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posted March 11, 2008 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message
If what he is saying is true, well... does anything really matter anymore. If we are all singularly going to able to create our own reality then no two people will be in the same realm? (Hence why they cant see past 2012 with the looking glass technology as he says, because there must be billions of possibilities) Unless souls start merging perhaps like the ending of a brilliant Anime called Neon Genesis: Evangelin (Which is ridiculously close to this 2012 stuff but was made in the early 90's).

It sounds too good to be true really...

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posted March 11, 2008 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I think we'll just have to wait and see.

I don't think we are just going to go into some sort of dream-state, a world of our own.

I think what is going to happen is an actual physical ascension, to a realm where creating our own reality will be more readily possible.

I think some sort of "solidity" is necessary.

From what I've heard, it would seem that 2012 will be a gateway into more than one reality, depending on an individual's level of consciousness.

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"To err is human, to forgive divine"
~Alexander Pope

"It's just a ride & we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings & money, a choice, right now, between fear & love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your door, buy guns, close yourself off, the eyes of love instead see all of us as one".....
~Bill Hicks

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posted March 11, 2008 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_life_(Kabbalah)

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posted March 11, 2008 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message

Lol they use the exact same symbol via the Evangelion Alien/Robots/With Human Souls in Neon Genesis, at the point where they collapse all of the souls on the planet into one primordial soup of consciousness

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posted March 11, 2008 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Is that a film?

Collapse into a soup?

Well they say, in reality all is One.....

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posted March 11, 2008 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message
Is that a film?

It has movies but its an Anime Series: Neon Genesis Evangelion (TV series)

Collapse into a soup?

Yes literally all life on the planet gets collapsed into a liquid they call LCL

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posted March 11, 2008 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
Well which ever field we will play in , it still belongs to the one Buddha field Wilcock calls him creator , I love to call it Buddha (intellect) field.


Anyhow - thanks Listens to trees
It was a great video. Oh, I don't believe all he says though.


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posted March 14, 2008 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
This video also contains some extremely interesting information regarding the pineal gland and ancient symbolism- I would definitely recommend watching it even if it is only to see the interesting new information about these things.

Mannu,
"Oh, I don't believe all he says though".
Neither do I. But I no longer need to "believe" something to feel if is true or not.

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"To err is human, to forgive divine"
~Alexander Pope

"It's just a ride & we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings & money, a choice, right now, between fear & love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your door, buy guns, close yourself off, the eyes of love instead see all of us as one".....
~Bill Hicks

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posted March 14, 2008 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charlotte     Edit/Delete Message
LTT, I just watched it and fantastic info, I get what You mean about not having to believe, to feel the truth.
Very cool! I'm going to share it with friends.

Hugs,
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posted March 14, 2008 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
LTT,

I believe in beliefs

I think he is on crystal meth at times when he talks about elections are rigged and all that crap

But those fascinating information on pine cone, vatican, third eye were great


The other stuff like time being inverted inside out etc, I don't have any personal experience so can't comment on that.


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posted March 14, 2008 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
True knowledge exists in knowing that we know nothing.

~ Socrates

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posted March 14, 2008 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
LTT,
You are playing with words again.

Honey, Socrates was a philosopher. And you bet thats why all philosophers know that they don't know. They operate at the mind level


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posted March 14, 2008 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
Can't you see he was encouraging DMT in that video.

Hell of a guru he is


I told before that I have nothing against drug users but enlightenmnet makes its use unrequired. Can get in to science of it but you can't understand. No one can. It has to be experienced within.

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posted March 14, 2008 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
Each one of us is God. We can chose to live as one or not - Mannu

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posted March 14, 2008 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Mannu, he wasn't encouraging things like DMT in the video, he did point out that these shortcuts can lead to illnesses such as schizophrenia. He merely mentioned them as an example in his lecture.

Some of the things he talked about have already been mentioned in "what the bleep".

Perhaps all quantum physicists are on drugs.

I don't need to- I'm naturally "out there" anyway.

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posted March 14, 2008 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
We can know what we know with our hearts Mannu.

But as far as anything else goes (like a world view or a religion), there may always be something else, some other data, some other research, etc- to prove it otherwise.

I think thats why that line holds truth for me.

It also prevents one from becoming attached to his/ her illusion.

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posted March 14, 2008 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeIv-i7aVwE

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posted March 14, 2008 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
I do not deny that DMTs helps us sleep and all that.

What I was saying was does any one know his drug history? Remember he is a pisces. And a pisces can be cunning and evasive at times. I think he is suffering from delusions of the mind.


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posted March 14, 2008 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Aren't we all?

And whatever a person has done in the past- who cares anyway?

I've tried a few things (in the past) out of curiosity, but decided in the end it wasn't for me.

If I was offered something as part of a ceremony such as Ayahuasca, or something I could take with reverence/ respect (not over-used for recreational purposes), I might even consider. These things help open doorways in the mind and spirit realm which are otherwise difficult to access.

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posted March 14, 2008 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1cfTMdjkYM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xhYk9PEmXA&feature=related


(I think I'll come back as Grace Slick in another life- love her voice).

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posted March 14, 2008 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
>>>>Aren't we all?
>>>And whatever a person has done in the past- who cares anyway?

Exactly. People cannot be trusted is my point. I have learnt that lesson very well.

I am not sure where you are going with this?


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posted March 14, 2008 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Mannu, if you don't like David Wilcock, that is your choice.

But others do.
That is their choice.

I have a very good feeling about him somehow. Perhaps the heart is blind at times but it seems to be more than that. Call it intuition of you like.

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