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ListensToTrees
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posted March 12, 2008 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
This is interesting stuff, so I just thought I'd post this link here in case anybody is interested.

http://www.lawofone.info/

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posted March 12, 2008 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyBee     Edit/Delete Message
thank you listenstotrees

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posted March 14, 2008 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyBee     Edit/Delete Message
hello guys,

i was reading the the topic about the wanderers... can someone please explain in a nutshell what they are and what are the densitys about? first , second, third etc??

thank you so much...still grasping all these wonderful information i am reading from here...

ONE love
indy

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posted March 14, 2008 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
"Wanderers" are souls not native to this world who originate from other planets/ dimensions but who incarnate here for reasons of compassion, to help bring about the collective awakening of humankind.


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A Brief Quiz for Sleeping Wanderers

"The following quiz basically indicates what I look for when determining if someone is an ET soul. It’s a very subjective measurement based on my own experience, neither authoritative nor statistical. Please take it as simply a broadstroke portrait of ET Wanderers (or Star People), and a novel type of road map to assist your journey towards the shrouded citadel of Self.

You are most likely an ET Wanderer if…

1.You were often lost in daydreams of ETs, UFOs, other worlds, space travel and utopian societies as a child. Your family thought you were “a bit odd,” without knowing quite why.
2. You always felt like your parents were not your true parents, that your real family was far away and hidden. Perhaps you thought things around you were somehow “not the way they should be,” and reminded you of life somewhere “far away.” These beliefs may have caused you a great deal of pain and sorrow. You felt “out of place.”
3. You’ve had one or more vivid UFO experiences (in a dream or during waking hours) which dramatically changed your life: they helped resolve doubts, inspired confidence and hope, and gave you meaning and greater purpose. From then on, you knew you were a different person. Like a spiritual wake-up call, it changed your life.
4. You are genuinely kind, gentle, harmless, peaceful, and nonaggressive (not just sometimes, but almost always). You are not much interested in money and possessions, so if “someone must do without,” it is usually you - such is your habitual self-sacrifice. Acts of human cruelty, violence and perpetual global warfare seem really strange (shall we say, alien?). You just can’t figure out all this anger, rage and competition.
5. You have a hard time recognizing evil and trickery: some people call you naive (and they’re right!). When you do perceive genuine negativity in your midst, you recoil in horror and may feel shocked that “some people really do things like that.” In a subtle way, you actually feel confused. Perhaps you vaguely sense having known a world free of such disharmony.
6. The essence of your life is serving others (be they family, friends, or in a profession), and you cherish great ideals, which may also be somewhat innocent and naive (in worldly terms). But you sincerely, deeply hope to improve the world. A lot of disappointment and frustration comes when such hopes and dreams don’t materialize.
7. You completely embrace the scientific temperament, with a cool, reasonable, and measured approach to life. Human passion and red hot desire seem strange: you are baffled. Romance and the entire world of feelings are truly foreign to your natural way. You always analyze experiences, and so people say you’re always in your head-which is true! [Note: This type of Wanderer is less common, and probably wouldn’t be reading this book-their skepticism would be too great! Such an “odd bird” is probably a brilliant scientist.]
8. You easily get lost in science fiction, medieval epic fantasy (like The Hobbit) and visionary art. Given a choice, you’d much prefer to live in your dreams of the past or future than in the present. Sometimes you consider your Earth life boring and meaningless, and wish you could go to a perfect, exciting world. Such dreams have been with you a long time.
9. You have an insatiable interest in UFOs, life on other worlds or previous Earth civilizations such as Atlantis or Lemuria. Sometimes you feel like you’ve really been there, and may even go back someday. There may be quite a few of such books on your bookshelves. (Actually, this question is a give-away, since only Wanderers and Walk-ins have profound, undying curiosity about worlds beyond - and for good reason!)
10. You have a strong interest in mystic spirituality (East or West), both theory and practice, with a deep sense that you used to have greater powers and somehow lost them. You may feel it’s unnecessary to discipline yourself since “you’ve already been there,” but somehow forgot what you used to know. People may doubt your resolve, but you know it’s not that simple.
11. You have become a conscious channel for ETs or some other non-Earth source - and you realize that the purpose of your life is to help others grow and evolve. (Most likely, you’re no longer sleeping, Wanderer!)
12. You feel, and perhaps all your life have felt tremendous alienation and a sense of never quite fitting in. Maybe you hope to be like others, try your best to be “normal,” or imagine yourself like everyone else-but the bottom line is that you simply feel different and always have. There is a very real fear of never finding a place in this world. (Which you might not! Note: This is the classic profile of Wanderers.)

Of course, my questionnaire is not exhaustive, and simply answering “yes” to any one point doesn’t necessarily mean you are From Elsewhere. Although some questions are pretty good E.T.-indicators, such as number 3 (if your ET contact was clear and overwhelmingly positive), and the combination of numbers 1 and 12 (a classic profile), there are no guarantees. (And I assume no legal liabilities, please!) Only you can determine whether or not you are an ET soul, coming from the depths of intimate self-understanding!

If you do conclude it really is possible to be sure of something as radical as ET identity (which, however, is not radical to some people,) then you have to see it through to the end. Plainly stated, if you can’t stop wondering then you must make a commitment to finding the answer. Otherwise, your doubts will consume you and fill your life with anxiety and uncertainty!"
http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=132&Itemid=36

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posted March 14, 2008 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
"Densities" are dimensions....of experience/ consciousness.

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posted March 14, 2008 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message
Oh cool, I was looking for that quiz since I heard him talk about the book in the PC Interview

Thanks!!

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posted March 14, 2008 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyBee     Edit/Delete Message
THANK YOU SO MUCH LISTENSTOTREES FOR TAKING YOUR TIME EXPLAINING IT MORE CLEARLY FOR ME!

would a wanderer bee the same as an indigo?

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posted March 14, 2008 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
That's a cute picture, indybee.

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posted March 14, 2008 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
"would a wanderer bee the same as an indigo?"

I'm not sure what I make of the whole "indigo" concept. Certainly, however, there are souls being born who are more sensitive to certain things than others, who cannot be forced to squeeze into society's molds comfortably, etc......

The wanderer concept however does sound along similar lines of the "indigos" and "starseeds".

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posted March 14, 2008 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
More on wanderers....
(For those interested).

Just been reading some more of the material when I got to this:

Questioner: You spoke of Wanderers. Who are Wanderers? Where do they come from?

Ra: I am Ra. Imagine, if you will, the sands of your shores. As countless as the grains of sand are the sources of intelligent infinity. When a social memory complex has achieved its complete understanding of its desire, it may conclude that its desire is service to others with the distortion towards reaching their hand, figuratively, to any entities who call for aid. These entities whom you may call the Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow move toward this calling of sorrow. These entities are from all reaches of the infinite creation and are bound together by the desire to serve in this distortion.

Questioner: How many of them are incarnate on Earth now?

Ra: I am Ra. The number is approximate due to an heavy influx of those birthed at this time due to an intensive need to lighten the planetary vibration and thus aid in harvest. The number approaches sixty-five million.

Questioner: Are most of these from the fourth density? Or what density do they come from?

Ra: I am Ra. Few there are of fourth density. The largest number of Wanderers, as you call them, are of the sixth density. The desire to serve must be distorted towards a great deal of purity of mind and what you may call foolhardiness or bravery, depending upon your distortion complex judgment. The challenge/danger of the Wanderer is that it will forget its mission, become karmically involved, and thus be swept into the maelstrom of which it had incarnated to avert the destruction.

Questioner: What could one of these entities do to become karmically involved? Could you give an example of that?

Ra: I am Ra. An entity which acts in a consciously unloving manner in action with other beings can become karmically involved.

Questioner: Do many of these Wanderers have physical ailments in this third-density situation?

Ra: I am Ra. Due to the extreme variance between the vibratory distortions of third density and those of the more dense densities, if you will, Wanderers have as a general rule some form of handicap, difficulty, or feeling of alienation which is severe. The most common of these difficulties are alienation, the reaction against the planetary vibration by personality disorders, as you would call them, and body complex ailments indicating difficulty in adjustment to the planetary vibrations such as allergies, as you would call them.

Questioner: Is there a way for these Wanderers to heal themselves of their physical ailments?

Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last complete question of this time/space.

The self-healing distortion is effected through realization of the intelligent infinity resting within. This is blocked in some way in these who are not perfectly balanced in bodily complexes. The blockage varies from entity to entity. It requires the conscious awareness of the spiritual nature of reality, if you will, and the corresponding pourings of this reality into the individual mind/body/spirit complex for healing to take place.

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posted March 16, 2008 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
Sounds like most ET wanderers are aquarians, or vice versa

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posted March 17, 2008 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
Its all happening in dream world.

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posted March 17, 2008 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
The universe has no laws..

Law of one etc ...
is all BS

All illusions...which i run away from.

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posted March 17, 2008 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
I came upon this a few months ago LTT, which I found strange when I came across it here too.

I was reading the part about Sexual Polarity, and everything sounded like truth, until I came to a part which made me uncomfortable.

There was a part where Ra was speaking about 4th, 5th and 6th dimension entities or something , a part which explains demons, and Ra said that we are one and so when a person feels attacked by an entity, (which can be felt by symptoms of tiredness, headaches, being drained or angry) one must imagine the "dark entity in front of them. Then Ra said that after you see the entity, invite it and let it come into you and be absorbed into you in order to neutralize it.

Personally, I became uncomfortable with Ra. it's as if he speaks 99% of the truth and then there is 1% which I find a little suspect.

He said one must absorb this dark entity into oneself because one is the dark entity, and so, fighting it is counter productive, and useless because it is fighting oneself.

I guess I am not evolved enough to feel comfortable with inviting tall, dark shadows into me. After reading that bit, I never read Ra's word's again.
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~boyne/ra/transfers.html

I am not sure where this bit about absorbing dark entities is, but I started reading Ra from this link.

edit: to add... after reading Ra though, and many other sources of info, I just started not caring about such entities. There came a point where I was so afraid that I became fed up of fear. I also stopped caring whether I was a wanderer or not. Maybe I grew cynical.

Ra confuses me. let me just say that. There is something about him that doesn't let my heart be still.

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posted March 17, 2008 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyBee     Edit/Delete Message
i found another "source" hehe

this is very very inteeeeeeeeeeeresting!!

Wanderer
This poetic term was originally used by George Hunt Williamson and the other "Space Brother" contactees in the 1950's. Basically, Wanderers are those who have experienced a process of inter-dimensional, inter-planetary soul transfer, and have come to Earth from a higher-dimensional ET group, almost always from other solar systems. Wanderers incarnate in the normal way (as babies), and along the way, agree to forget their memory of ET identity and purpose. Their fundamental purpose in coming to Earth is to aid the evolution of humanity and the planet in a variety of ways. In all cases, however, their purpose is to add love and light to our global evolution. This process has occurred since the beginning of the human experience on Earth, and is quite common throughout the Universe as an expression of the Law of Service in which elder souls freely go to serve those in need.

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posted March 18, 2008 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Unmoved, thanks indybee.

There is another explanation for this feeling inside of being a "Wanderer".

Old souls, and souls tuned into perhaps higher frequencies.


Unmoved, I will never put all my faith into anything completely, ever. At least not into a particular construct which was made in this realm.

But I am curious, so I'm going to carry on reading these books. Once I have finished I will meditate on them and draw my conclusion. It takes an awful lot to convince me of anything completely. I can get very into something for a while, but never do I give all my faith away.

So far, I feel that the general message of the book is very interesting and contains some very worthy information. Other parts of it I'm not so sure about.


"This is the world of illusion".

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posted March 18, 2008 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Unmoved, if you manage to remember more specifically where you read that part you mentioned, do let me know. Otherwise, I'll get to it in time. You've made me curious.

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posted March 19, 2008 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
There was a part where Ra was speaking about 4th, 5th and 6th dimension entities or something , a part which explains demons, and Ra said that we are one and so when a person feels attacked by an entity, (which can be felt by symptoms of tiredness, headaches, being drained or angry) one must imagine the "dark entity in front of them. Then Ra said that after you see the entity, invite it and let it come into you and be absorbed into you in order to neutralize it.

Unmoved, thanks for posting this... very good; it's howver so dangerous, though:

Quote:
"Then Ra said that after you see the entity, invite it and let it come into you and be absorbed into you in order to neutralize it."

And dispose of it after you invite it in, but one has to be fully trained in this area; otherwise, it can take over you, or leave you marked so-to-speak, reflecting in your aura.. in this cases so to speak, many times a person should not do the work alone. Actually, the entity is already in the person if he/she feels those symptoms you noted in a spiritual sense. But those seeking help per se, the person or persons healing does the inviting and disposing of it.

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posted March 19, 2008 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I woke up at 3am this morning and couldn't stop thinking about all of this.

What you wrote, Unmoved, about these sources providing perhaps 99% of truth and 1% of perhaps harmful untruth....has been on my mind.

I still don't know what to think. Perhaps these "channellings" so to speak is the actual person tapping into his/ her own higher consciousness, who knows?

I also find it interesting how the Law of One (Ra) website, etc uses Don Quixote as their emblem.

I've never read/ heard the full story about Don Quixote, but I have watched "Lost In La Mancha" about how the trials and tribulations of Terry Gilliam's enthusiastic attempt/ dream of making this film.

Apparently, it is a story no-one so far has succeeded in making into a film, and they talk of a "curse of Don Quixote".

Anyway, to bring this down to a much less frivolous note, to a rather sad one- one of the people involved in the Ra channellings actually committed suicide.
Now, perhaps this was unrelated to this actual work, but who knows.


I know one thing.
I am not going to rely on anyone, ever, to tell me the truth, the answers, on a spiritual level.

The only one I can truly rely on is my own Higher Self.

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posted March 19, 2008 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Ra's perspective on dimensions also doesn't make a lot of sense to me; the idea of free will and there being more advanced dimensions of consciousness which are split into negative and positive (negative being those who seek to control, positive being those who wish to serve).

To progress into fourth density negative, for example, one needs to be at least 95% in "service to self", whereas to progress into fourth density positive one needs to be at least 51% in "service to others".

It gives a very different perspective on how things work according to my own inner seeking so far.

(Sigh).

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posted March 19, 2008 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I feel I've had enough of this kind of thing now.

I'll look within to find and know the truth, when it comes to spirituality. I don't need anything else to *tell* me what the answers are.

I look to as reliable as possible reliable scientific research for anything else.

And here's a just little something my heart knows is true:

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posted March 19, 2008 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
I don't really mind reading these things.

No harm in exploring provided we keep our power of discernment

I have so many other books to read - will read these things when I have time but I like to keep checking this post here to be in touch with developments of my ET brothers and sisters


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posted March 20, 2008 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Take a deep breath, Listens to Trees, is ok. Sometimes you just need to walk away from this, dear, and let it come to you

Mannu, get real, dude

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posted March 20, 2008 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I think if souls sometimes become stuck here after death because they are afraid to move on, the limitations of consciousness may indeed continue after death, therefore Ra may be correct in the description of these "densities". I think it has been explained that the number of negative beings in negative realms is far far less than those of the positive realms, as selfishness in itself isn't very successful.

I have also just found something of great interest which I posted on the thread about the Plaeides. I had previously felt discouraged as I had found no evidence for the things that had come up in my research in the Ra material, and I thought it was going to be incompatible with some things. When I read that chapter just now, I felt more encouraged that I am on the way to getting closer to some actual truth.

Unmoved, I will find out more if I can, about the thing you mentioned which put you off.

One other thing to remember about channeling is that the language we use, of words, is extremely limiting.
It is far different from the language of telepathy/ empathy used in higher realms.

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"To err is human, to forgive divine"
~Alexander Pope

"It's just a ride & we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings & money, a choice, right now, between fear & love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your door, buy guns, close yourself off, the eyes of love instead see all of us as one".....
~Bill Hicks

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