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ListensToTrees
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posted April 06, 2008 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe, just maybe we only live one life, in this particular realm?

You see, life is fairly difficult here on this planet- perhaps we were only meant to experience this dimension/ frequency once?

If karma is true, and if each time when we are reborn we forget everything again, the cycle could go on, and on, and on.......
(Which, IMO- doesn't seem fair....spiritual amnesia is what keeps people from loving more- that's what I feel to be the case anyway)....

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posted April 06, 2008 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
There are also other explanations for past life memory, such as psychic ability, tuning into another person's experiences (past, present or future).

I also believe beings in spirit can watch over other beings, perhaps those who are members of a soul family and so forth. This, as well as psychic ability, may offer another explanation for de ja vous........

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dreamwolf
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posted April 06, 2008 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dreamwolf     Edit/Delete Message
In my beliefs we can choose as many or as less lives here as needed. I have many past life memories from here and from other planets and each is very interesting. You may feel the lives I remember from this planet have other sources of explanation, but it is something very personal and very near to the heart that it is not something I can pull away from. Each life I remember I am able to know who the soul group is-which people are in that past life that I am dealing with in this life. I would see a past life situation, know the lessons that I had to deal with and then meet those same souls and finish a situation very similar to the one in the past life.
(sorry that sounds confusing lol)

When you can remember pastlives you can feel the difference between that and remote viewing. At least, I am able to do both and see the differences.
How much you come here has to do with how strong the soul is becoming and how much you'd want to progress (and how fast).

I truly believe that Karma is not solely about going around in circles repeating situations over and over -but before we are born we choose which lessons to deal with and which we don't want too. Nothing is forced. Karma is just learning and about being able to play as many parts as possible. Without being able to take on different roles we would have a hard time learning. One life here just isn't sufficient to go anywhere with it.
If say, your first life is as a wealthy man/woman your soul has no understanding for anyone else so you go through a life of greed. In heaven you decide that you really didn't understand the poor so you come back again as a homeless man who needs help. You go through that struggling and you find no help for you. In heaven you decide to come back again as a wealthy person-This time cell memory kicks in and you remember-life of greed-got yah nowhere. Life as a homeless person makes you feel compassionate...So you open up a homeless shelter with your money.

This is why I believe we need many lives on all planets. We have to understand things and progress by helping and knowing what it's like in another person's shoes.


It's a hard planet here, but definitely not the only one with pain and suffering. My one life memory -I won't name the planet- was/maybe still is big on space wars. More for the protection of the planet-but many people do die, and they possesed slaves-do not know if they advanced since then though to stop that.


A lot of my morals I have learned from past lives as well-not just karma carries over but our characteristics and personalities carry over as well
If you lived in Italy in one life you may be drawto it in this life.

Often pain and illness can carry over from a previous life as well.
I have done many readings like that for people.

For example: One guy wanted a past life reading and I found that he had been kicked in the head by a horse.
After the reading, he admitted to me that he gets migrains all the time in this life.
He just needed to let the past go, and he would be fine.


The idea that we only live here once-Is interesting-and is always possible, but in my beliefs it is a personal choice. There's no laws or rules telling us ho wmany to take on.
A soul can chose to only have one life-Maybe yours has (but I doubt it b.c of how spiritual you are on this planet - Ppl who are here for the first time tend to act the fool hehe. They tend to make too many mistakes b.c they are learning about Earthly ways for the first time). You can live as many or as few lives as wanted. So karma does not force a person to come back, it's only if they want to progress. -UNLESS and only if the contract is broken...like with suicide-They have to return someday, murder victims also tend to chose to come back so they can finish their contracts as well.


This is just my humble opinion. I like the thinking that goes on here! It's great!
I respect everyones thoughts.

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dreamwolf
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posted April 06, 2008 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dreamwolf     Edit/Delete Message
Just wanted to add, that when I was about 5 years old I had a memory taht I never questioned before. As I grew up I started to question it b.c it didn't make sense.

I was riding in a car, wearing white fancy gloves,a dress.. had blond long hair... I was around 12 in the memory (which is why I questioned it since I recalled being in the car at age 5 lol). Someone drove me past a beautiful park and shoved a gun in the glove compartment.
I have brown hair in this life btw lol.
When I was little I asked my dad why he was so against guns if there was one in the car. B.c I thought that memory was from "this" life. My dad would look at me weird and tell me we don't own a gun. lol.

Just thought I'd share

nd as crazy as this sounds-personally..I do love this planet the most. It's beautiful and it has the most potential. People are always progressing. We do something wrong and we make up for it. We are always learning and it hasn't stopped. It's like looking at a baby and knowing that even o they keep falling that soon they will start to walk.
This planet has a lot of cruel people but we also have wildlife, nature, and those ppl who surprise you and love.
I think b.c pain is so intense here that pleasure is as well. B.c we get the opposit of pleasure here when we do feel good it is better than other less painful planets.
That may sound odd tho lol.

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posted April 06, 2008 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, dreamwolf. I have an open mind. I have believed in reincarnation for many years, however, this life just seems so wearing....I don't know but I'll carry on pondering these questions.

I have tried to remember my previous lives, but I don't know if what is coming up is a real memory or just an imaginary one.

I had a karmic astrology reading done by Judy Hall, the author. The astrology was very accurate and insightful. I was hoping that the description of past lives (which she gave but were brief) would help inspire my soul memory into this mind, but I'm still not sure.

I did know a young lady once who said she had a recurring dream of being a soldier in the second world war, of being shot in the back. And in the exact place in her dream, she has this scar which she was born with, on her back.

I have possible memories of being either an orphan or of living in a boarding school, of being deeply lonely and sad.
I remember my first day at school well- I didn't want to go. I was quite an introverted child, preferring to stick to one best friend, or the company of animals, lol.

So....I don't know if this is due to a past life or not. I would love to know who I was some day.....

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I truly believe that Karma is not solely about going around in circles repeating situations over and over -but before we are born we choose which lessons to deal with and which we don't want too. Nothing is forced.

I've always kind of felt that too.

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posted April 06, 2008 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Why is life so cruel?

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AlfaOmega
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posted April 06, 2008 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlfaOmega     Edit/Delete Message
*Listen to trees*
Interesting thoughts

*Dreamwolf*
How do you learn to become earhtly in your first life here? It's interesting to read what you say*

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dreamwolf
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posted April 06, 2008 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dreamwolf     Edit/Delete Message
ListenToTrees: That's cool about about the memories you can hold on too-Sometimes that's all that's needed. We remember what we need too bc usually it will help this life somehow. For example, if you did feel lonely as this orphan or child who was segregated or what have you, perhaps that is a theme you need to work on still in this life.
Keep on thinking and pondering, it's a great way to learn and grow ! Answers are within u

Alfa, what I mean is..hmm lol-It's like going to a foreign country for the first time. You may not know what food is good to eat, you can't understand their language or the cultures ways or beliefs. You may raise your hand to give someone a hand shake and realize they don't know what that is lol. So You make a lot of mistakes, you make a fool of yourself, and you may get yourself into some trouble lol. After a while you start to get the hang of things, you learn by trial an derror what's right and what's wrong.
So being here on Earth for the first time may be somewhat like that too. Like, maybe one soul had many lives on a spiritual plain where there really was no pain. If there's no pain there's no reason to help anyone. So when you see someone suffering, it's difficult to put yourself in their shoes..The first life you may experience a lot and help little. After that though, you start to get the hang of things and help others as well. I hope this explains it better. All souls are different tho-and I respect each soul that is here b.c it's a tough life

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posted April 06, 2008 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
How does one acquire clear, vivid, unmistakable memories??

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dreamwolf
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posted April 06, 2008 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dreamwolf     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not sure. For some people t's second nature, for others it's something that requires a lot of time and patience. I do think that we shouldn't force it though. It can be rather hard on the soul to remember some things and not to have that anymore. I think some memories return for a purpose, but not all are pleasant. For example, being forced to remember my family dying is not something I wish I felt in this life...but I do.
So they are great to learn from but I do think "be careful what you wish for" is a good thing too lol.
Sometimes past life regression/hypnosis works. I think there must be CD's that let you meditate on this as well.
Cheers!

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Lara
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posted April 06, 2008 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Well if we do only live one life l must have either ticked ALL the heavy lessons boxes before l was born OR someone is having a laugh with me!!


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posted April 06, 2008 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dreamwolf     Edit/Delete Message
"Well if we do only live one life l must have either ticked ALL the heavy lessons boxes before l was born OR someone is having a laugh with me!!"

I always imagine ppl up there with TV screens watching us while eating their popcorn

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26taurus
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posted April 06, 2008 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Great thoughts, LTT. Have you read Disappearance of the Universe or A Course In Miracles? The material goes into this.

I have a tendency to agree with it too. It's hard for us to make sense of this mind matrix without thinking in terms of having had multiple or past lives though isnt it?

Are all of these 'lives', realities, parallel worlds going on at once, our brains just function in the realm of time - so that is the only way we can make sense of it all? I dont know.

Great thoughts.

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posted April 06, 2008 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for praecipua     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Why is life so cruel?
LTT

try asking instead...

why does life SEEMS TO ME so cruel?

you are NOT ALLOWED to blame yourself in answering...

ok, i give you a hint. this is an quote from HSC from another thread-without going into inappropriate details here, it's related to someone's drug problems. i didn't ask HSC the permission so i hope he's ok with the quote.

... but i'll collect your copy in 1 hour

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Heart Shaped Cross wrote:

When we ask how it is possible that a person cannot manage the day to day business of life, which most people take in stride, or, if not in stride, find healthy means of coping with, we may just as easily ask how it is that these people who do cope do not manage to do even better for themselves. How is it that they do not meditate for several hours every morning? How is it that they do not live exemplary lifes, like Mother Teresa, or Mohandas Gandhi? The answer is the same. It is because they are not made for it. For some people, it is as difficult to handle the daily grind as it is for other people to live in abject poverty, among lepers and orphans, or to lead a political revolution. Though we may know that it is better to be Mother Teresa, or Gandhi, something holds us back. Likewise, though a person may know that it is better to cope with stress, without recourse to vices, something holds them back. We all do what we can.

Now this is not to say that the people who attempt to cope in more unhealthy ways are simply weaker. It may be that they are actually more conscious of certain transcendant states than the average person, and that this makes it far more difficult for them to maintain a focus on the mundane. Perhaps they hear the same calls that a Mother Teresa or a Gandhi hears; perhaps they hold themselves to the same high standard. It may be that they would feel as irresponsible, and as restless with guilt, living an ordinary life, as others would feel living a life of self-destructive drug abuse.

I theorize that the same pressures which turn a potentially great individual into an truly great individual, would turn a fairly average individual into a drug abuser. Some rise to the occassion and transform themselves into angels, and others crumble under the weight of it, and are cast in the roles of victims and devils, but both types are given a tremendous burden to carry which most of us cannot comprehend. So it is that people who become self-destructive may be more like great souls than those of us who always draw between the lines, and are not oppressed by any profound sense of urgency to transcend. This would explain why the outer planets are linked to self-destructive behaviors as well as self-transcendant behaviors, while the activities of daily living, and the moderate ambitions that go along with them, are left to the personal planets.


"In the psychopathic temperament we have the emotionality which is the sine qua non of moral perception; we have the intensity and tendency to emphasis which are the essence of practical moral vigor; and we have the love of metaphysics and mysticism which carry one's interests beyond the surface of the sensible world. What, then, is more natural than that this temperament should introduce one to regions of religious truth, to corners of the universe, which your robust Philistine type of nervous system, forever offering its biceps to be felt, thumping its breast, and thanking Heaven that it hasn't a single morbid fibre in its composition, would be sure to hide forever from its self-satisfied possessors?
If there were such a thing as inspiration from a higher realm, it might well be that the neurotic temperament would furnish the chief condition of the requisite receptivity."
- William James


remember blaming ourselves is eliminatory...

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posted April 07, 2008 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Praecipua .... Yep...I've had those thoughts.

26T, no, I've not read those books.

Lara,

Dreamwolf- good points you made.

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AlfaOmega
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posted April 07, 2008 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlfaOmega     Edit/Delete Message
Hello *Lísten To Trees* it's easy to think that life is cruel, because it is. urgh

But there are many good things in life too*** and point at them is better?

*Dreamwolf* Think i understand what you mean it's like mr Bean, when he's visiting USA?


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dreamwolf
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posted April 07, 2008 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dreamwolf     Edit/Delete Message
lmao, yah Mr. Bean is a GREAT example. tee hee. silly guy.

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judhora
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posted April 08, 2008 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for judhora     Edit/Delete Message
this is what i've been thinking about for the last two days...reincarnation..i had never thought about it before, but now, it makes so much sense..
but i want to discover more about my past lives..can anyone tell me how to? other than hypnosis/regression?
why do people laugh things like this off? i'm sure everyone has felt deja vu once or twice in their lifetimes..

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dreamwolf
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posted April 08, 2008 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dreamwolf     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe in May, if someone reminds me I can start readings and offer pastlife readings.

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judhora
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posted April 08, 2008 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for judhora     Edit/Delete Message
oh wow..thanx..i will surely remind you!

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posted April 08, 2008 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message

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