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Topic: Book Of Storms: Help For Empaths
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posted April 30, 2008 11:37 PM
I just received this in a bulletin, haven't looked at it properly yet, but I want to share the link so I remember: http://mysilentecho.com/dreamtongue1.htm IP: Logged |
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posted April 30, 2008 11:41 PM
The Empathy Symbol: Because what the world really needs now is Empathy. The Empathy Symbol stands for 2 sides reaching out, and reaching into each other to really understand what the other is feeling and experiencing. Whether it’s Men and Women, Blacks and Whites, Jews and Muslims, Gays and Straights, Red States and Blue States, Christians and Atheists, Asians and Latinos, Handicapped and Able-bodied, White collar and Blue collar… Whatever the 2 sides are. Because it’s a lot harder to hate someone you understand. Because in order to get to Peace and Love and Harmony in our World, we first have to have Empathy for one another ....USE IT.... ....SPREAD IT.... ....LIVE IT.... I found this symbol at the following link: Click here Thank you Deb. It's meant a lot to me to have this. **************************************************** When a person is an empath, like me, they tend to take on the feelings of the people around them. Both good feelings & bad feelings. Empaths are usually very psychic or telepathic & have all the feelings to go with their impressions and thoughts that are coming from other people. I pick up on very subtle things that may go completely unnoticed by other people. Some say that it's a 'Gift Of God' and I like to think that, but it's not very easy being one. I feel both the physical pain of others, as well as personal, spiritual, and psychic pain of others. I just wish that people could understand that. It's very hurtful to me when the people that I love the most, don't or won't, try to understand this about me. I have a very hard time going into loud and crowded places, like the grocery store or the mall. Also, I can barely watch the news on TV anymore because I get so upset at all the horrific things going on in this crazy world. If I get something horrible in my head, like a child being molested or kidnapped, it will bother me for weeks and weeks. I become depressed and cry a lot, plus I get sick to my stomach and I just feel sick all over. It tears my heart out to see how cruel people are to eachother in this world. It's just too much to bear most of the time.. I think that everybody alive has the capacity to become an empath, but only certain people can truly experience this gift fully.... and that comes from spiritual growth and how far along you are in the Spirit World....like people who are very strong in spirit and who have also been through a lot in this life and perhaps also in past lives. I have been this way ever since I can remember, and I have memories as far back as 3 year's old. So it couldn't have just been from this life. But whether or not you believe in reincarnation is beside the point. It is just a very strong feeling of love and compassion. I cry a lot, not just for myself, but for others. I feel the happiness and sadness of everyone around me.... Sometimes I just cry because something has touched my heart so much that I have no other way to express myself. I guess you could say that we mainly see the "God Part" of people, unless someone really hurts us, or one of our loved ones..... It's very hard for empaths to see the evil in people. Even when we do see the evil in people, we tend to not believe it or dwell on it too much, because we know that there is a little part of God dwelling ~inside of everyone~ We realize that everyone has to grow in their own way, and in their own time. For We are all as much a part of God as anyone else is. ************* What is the difference between sympathy and empathy? Let's take the example of a death. I think that anyone who has lost a loved one can relate to how it feels to lose someone that you care very much about, so most people can sympathize with someone who has lost a loved one. BUT, an empath takes on that persons pain as if it were their own experience. Get what I'm saying?? There is actually a HUGE difference in the two. The challenge for empaths is to learn to let go of the things they are feeling from others. Otherwise we will surely go insane from carrying the burdens of the world with us! What we need to do constantly, is to meditate, pray, and surround ourselves with a psychic shield. I admit that I'm not very good at this though. Having a sense of humor helps a lot too! Thank God I have a great sense of humor, because that has helped me to survive this crazy world more than anything! Also, try to find friends that are funny and not as sensitive as you are. That helps a lot, too. *********** ~Empathy Character Traits~ ~Feels emotions often and deeply~ ~Keenly aware of other peoples feelings~ ~Easily hurt or upset by insults or unkind remarks~ ~Avoids conflicts and confrontations~ ~Cannot easily release sad or upset feelings~ ~Feels deeply for others suffering and pain~ ~Prone to recurrent depression~ ~Keenly aware of, and affected by beauty (art, music, nature)~ ~Feel overwhelmed or depleted by too much stimuli (large crowds, loud noises, hectic environments)~ ~Was sensitive as a child~ ~I found this on About.com~ This describes me to a tee! I would just like to add a couple of my own here, now. ~Startles easily~ ~Abhors confusion~ ~Nurturers~ ~Very sensitive to bright lights~ ~Notices subtle changes in the atmosphere~ ~Needs to retreat within themselves to become focused~ ~May have a tendency towards alcohol or drugs to escape at some time in life from all the stimuli or confusion around them~ ~Feels physical pain more than others~ ~Has a strong affinity with animals.~ ~Loves children and children love them~ ~Often have premonition-type dreams~ ~Prone to migraines and tense muscles~ (Also disease's like chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia. I have both.) ~Often get involved with people who have a lot of problems~ (Thus leaving ourselves open to getting hurt deeply because of trying to help others) ~Feel that we have a "mission" in life to make others understand~ ~Will often tolerate a lot more abuse than other people do, even though we are hurt deeply~ ~ALWAYS misunderstood by others~ ~Insensitive people tend to think that we are mentally ill or wacko~ ~Often thought to be hypochondriacs by Dr.'s, because we are prone to sickness that comes from others~ (i.e. Test results may show nothing, but we are still sick nevertheless) ~Can feel physical or mental pain from long distances~ (Such as from people we are close to) ~Feels an affinity with willow trees~ ~Empaths usually work in a helping profession or are poets, musicians or artists~ ~Tires easily and naps frequently~ ~Attracted to gems and crystals~ ~See through people into their souls and beyond their masks or games~ (A lot of people are afraid of us for this reason) ~Are often looked upon as being soft, stupid or an easy pushover~ ~Usually have a great sense of humor~ ~We are the best listeners on earth!~ ~Very faithful as a friend~ ~An accute sense of smell and hearing~ http://www.moonchildpn.org/Empaths.html IP: Logged |
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posted April 30, 2008 11:48 PM
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posted April 30, 2008 11:55 PM
Sounds similar to the "sensitive people" listed below.I"m sure that being empathic is part of being sensitive. IP: Logged |
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posted May 01, 2008 12:42 AM
I struggle with loud noises and stressful situations...I need regular solitude to restore my equilibrium. Being this way is a burden as much as it is a "gift".I am very interested in what was mentioned about building a psychic self defense. I wonder if it would help me cope with things such as loud noises? If there was a way, it would kind of mean the world to me. IP: Logged |
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posted May 01, 2008 01:01 AM
Interesting:"I refer to this state in the Book of Storms as the "unbonded" Empath. Before figuring out who you are, you must figure out what you are, and reconcile the two. It's called the Book of STORMS for a reason! Learning about your internal storms, the nature of "storms", and how to "manage your own inner weather" are all par for the course. Empaths identify with many forms of nature and frequently feel affinity towards storms. Obviously, it is a powerful personal smbol for me. I have always felt "connected" to storms. As a metaphor, storms offer an unending supply of creative insight. Many Empaths suffer from anxiety due to an overload of incoming stimuli and intuitive information. Some suffer from depression due to being overwhelmed with all the "storms" going on inside. It is not uncommon for an Empath to tell me that he or she has been diagnosed as "bipolar/manic-depressive." Now, that does not mean that if you were diagnosed as bipolar that you are automatically an Empath - it just means there is a possibility that we are quick to put medical labels on things without fully investigating them. The interesting questions that arise are: Are Empaths more susceptible to mental illness? OR Is the mental illness/distress the result of being an unbonded Empath? Which comes first? This research still goes on. I have met plenty of well adjusted Empaths - yet will still find that they seek some sort of comfort somewhere, either in mild medication or counseling, something to soothe those internal storms". http://mysilentecho.com/dreamtongue1.htm "Empaths identify with many forms of nature and frequently feel affinity towards storms". Remind you of anyone? IP: Logged |
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posted May 01, 2008 01:13 AM
"An Empath is sensitive to the visible as well as the invisible. An Empath reads body language, tone of voice, body movements, the words people choose when they speak, the words they avoid, the logic they use; and the hidden things that only an Empath can sense inside another person. A fully developed Empath reads on what could be considered a 360 degree scope. I have this entire 360 scope mapped out in great detail in a teaching model I call the PHI Model of Consciousness or P.H.I. P.H.I. stands for "panheuristic intelligence" which is ultimately what I am advocating. My research has been inspired by the work of Dr. Timothy Leary and the many brilliant souls who elaborated on his work. It is also inspired by the profound teachings of the Buddha, from the very core and heart of what I believe the Dharma to be".IP: Logged |
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posted May 01, 2008 01:33 AM
What Kind of Empath Are You? (Just a bit of fun) http://quizfarm.com/run.php/Quiz?cmd=showFinalResult You scored as a Shaman You are a Shamanic Empath. You are at one with nature and can speak with animal/plant life. Your powers come from the Sun & the Moon, and the elements. The weather moves with your mind and all of nature is at your beck and call Universal 100% Healer 100% Artist 100% Shaman 100% Traveler 100% Fallen Angel 90% Judge 85% Precog 70% IP: Logged |
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posted May 01, 2008 02:43 AM
Cause it's a bittersweet symphony this life Trying to make ends meet, you're a slave to the money then you die I'll take you down the only road I've ever been down You know the one that takes you to the places where all the veins meet, yeah No change, I can't change, I can't change, I can't change, but I'm here in my mold , I am here in my mold But I'm a million different people from one day to the next I can't change my mold, no, no, no, no, noWell, I've never prayed, But tonight I'm on my knees, yeah I need to hear some sounds that recognize the pain in me, yeah I let the melody shine, let it cleanse my mind , I feel free now But the airwaves are clean and there's nobody singing to me now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWThgJtBHso&feature=related (My way of letting my emotion out is through singing). IP: Logged |
fatinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 1 From: South Korea Registered: May 2009
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posted May 01, 2008 03:25 AM
Thanks for this thread... it really made me feel better about myself to read it. The definition given of an empath totally resonates with me, so really really thanks : )IP: Logged |
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posted May 01, 2008 04:00 AM
You're welcome!And welcome! I don't know if you guys can view this or not, but check this out: http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=61513547&blogID=35696 4209
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posted May 01, 2008 01:11 PM
Sounds like someone I know....or am. loli can especially relate to this one: ~See through people into their souls and beyond their masks or games~ (A lot of people are afraid of us for this reason)
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posted April 19, 2009 12:29 AM
I tried the quiz link but could not find the quiz for "What Kind of an Empath Are You?" I identify with most of the traits of Empaths. Although I used to act nastily here at LL, I consider myself an Empath. But I don't cry much any more. I used to cry a lot, either for myself or for others. My tolerance for loud, crowdy places has increased. I do not own a TV, but I stopped watching local TV news a long time ago, because the local TV news was absolutely chaotic. I can feel the slight changes in the atmosphere, the unspoken feelings of others, and the tones, wording and styles people express themselves. D ------------------ The opposite of love is indeed hate, not indifference, for indifference is a form of detachment, and both love and hate are two forms of attachment, and detachment is naturally the opposite of both the two forms of attachment. There are many theories of the relationships between love and hate, but ultimately, hate is death force, which creates untimely or chronic destruction; whereas love is life force, which brings life. IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 136 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 19, 2009 01:42 AM
Cool test but it seems when one has equal scores in more than one area.... then one is asked to pick a tie breaker answer. So it classed me as Precog.... which is fine....however the tie breaker questions were equal to my mind.....so I would suggest to anyone, if you have scores in the other areas/types, that equal your final score. then you are equally those types also. The only one on my results that does not equal the others is Fallen Angel. What kind of empath are you? You Scored as Precog You are a Precog Empath. You are a visionary & a human thermostat. You can predict outcomes and see where paths may lead. You are a good scout and a guide to others. Be careful of your dreams. Your sight penetrates the veil that hides the truth from mankind. Precog 100% Traveler 100% Universal 100% Healer 100% Judge 100% Shaman 100% Artist 100% Fallen Angel 70% When I choose the other tiebreaker question I like exactly the same: I get this instead: You Scored as Universal You are a Universal Empath, you possess all the qualities of the other seven empath groups. You are what is known as an "Implicate" or Imp, a product of evolutionary design and genetic mutation. You are a psychic hybrid. (from "The Book of Storms" by Jad Alexander at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Empaths/) Precog 100% Traveler 100% Universal 100% Healer 100% Judge 100% Shaman 100% Artist 100% Fallen Angel 70% ___________________________________________ Are you an empath? You Scored as Certified Empath You are a natural born Empath! You are haunted by the calling of "the others" and walk in silence between the busy and the distracted. You qualify for certification by the School of Empath Psychology. From the Book of Storms Series newsletter on Yahoo! Groups. Certified Empath 100% An Intuitive 94% Potential Empath 75% Unbonded Empath 63% Not an Empath 19% You Scored as a : Certified Empath Certified Empath 100% An Intuitive 94% Potential Empath 75% Unbonded Empath 63% Not an Empath 19% ------------------ A show of envy is an insult to oneself. ~Yevgeny Alexandrovich Yevtushenko The jealous are troublesome to others, but a torment to themselves. ~William Penn, Some Fruits of Solitude, 1693 IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 136 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 19, 2009 01:56 AM
Go here and type empath into the search bar. http://quizfarm.com/ ------------------ A show of envy is an insult to oneself. ~Yevgeny Alexandrovich Yevtushenko The jealous are troublesome to others, but a torment to themselves. ~William Penn, Some Fruits of Solitude, 1693 IP: Logged |
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posted April 19, 2009 08:49 AM
You Scored as ArtistYou are an Artist Empath, one who creates their own reality and infuses the realities of others with your energy & emotions. You are poetic and sensitive. You turn your feelings into creations and share them with the world. Everything you touch turns to song and is freed by the color of your eyes. Your spirit dances with the winds and paints delight in the evening sky. Healer 100% Traveler 100% Fallen Angel 100% Judge 100% Artist 100% Shaman 90% Universal 90% Precog 80% Yea... suppose so! IP: Logged |
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posted April 25, 2009 01:36 PM
I know I am an empath and highly sensitive person. I first came across the book of storms back in 2007 and read it from time to time. I'm still not sure how to work this side of me cause I feel things and I usually live a quiet reclusive life yet I have this highly social side where I want to be around people and sometimes it's too much or it feels like I am missing out on stuff.....Cynnared (Inner Depths) IP: Logged |
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posted April 25, 2009 11:55 PM
LEXX,Many thanks for the instructions. You Scored as Certified Empath You are a natural born Empath! You are haunted by the calling of "the others" and walk in silence between the busy and the distracted. You qualify for certification by the School of Empath Psychology. From the Book of Storms Series newsletter on Yahoo! Groups. Certified Empath 100% An Intuitive 100% Potential Empath 88% Unbonded Empath 38% Not an Empath 0% Really? Am I? You Scored as Healer You are a Healer Empath. You take in the energy of others and transmute it. You trigger transformation in others and free trapped energy. You are capable of great healing abilities. You walk between the worlds and bring waves of healing energy with your presence. (from "The Book of Storms" by Jad Alexander at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Empaths/) Healer 95% Artist 95% Universal 95% Traveler 90% Precog 90% Judge 90% Shaman 80% Fallen Angel 70% Well... D
------------------ The opposite of love is indeed hate, not indifference, for indifference is a form of detachment, and both love and hate are two forms of attachment, and detachment is naturally the opposite of both the two forms of attachment. There are many theories of the relationships between love and hate, but ultimately, hate is death force, which creates untimely or chronic destruction; whereas love is life force, which brings life.
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posted April 26, 2009 12:16 AM
What kind of Empath are you?You Scored as Universal You are a Universal Empath, you possess all the qualities of the other seven empath groups. You are what is known as an "Implicate" or Imp, a product of evolutionary design and genetic mutation. You are a psychic hybrid. (from "The Book of Storms" by Jad Alexander at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Empaths/) Universal 100% Traveler 100% Healer 95% Artist 95% Fallen Angel 85% Precog 80% Shaman 75% Judge 70% IP: Logged |
listenstotrees Knowflake Posts: 118 From: Stonehenge Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 26, 2009 12:26 AM
Are you an Empath?You Scored as Certified Empath You are a natural born Empath! You are haunted by the calling of "the others" and walk in silence between the busy and the distracted. You qualify for certification by the School of Empath Psychology. From the Book of Storms Series newsletter on Yahoo! Groups. Certified Empath 81% Unbonded Empath 81% An Intuitive 69% Potential Empath 56% Not an Empath 6% IP: Logged |
BiBi DeAngelo Knowflake Posts: 19 From: Los Angeles, CA, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 28, 2009 12:03 PM
Tree's... loved this quote: quote:
Because it’s a lot harder to hate someone you understand. Because in order to get to Peace and Love and Harmony in our World, we first have to have Empathy for one another
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Spanky Butler Knowflake Posts: 53 From: In my lair stalking you on Google.... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 28, 2009 11:15 PM
Great quiz LTTHere's my own answer.... You Scored as Fallen Angel
You are a Fallen Angel empath. You have not found your place in this world yet and wander as a lost soul. Your wings have been clipped but you know deep inside they will grow back. You need to fly free and proud. Fallen Angels are spiritual beings who were trapped by flesh, and are now seeking to spread their wings again. (from the Book of Storms at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Empaths/) Fallen Angel 95% Precog 90% Traveler 90% Healer 90% Judge 90% Artist 90% Universal 70% Shaman 60% IP: Logged |
mys-elf13 Moderator Posts: 23 From: deerfield Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 29, 2009 07:46 AM
I had a hard time with a few of the questions. The questions were geared toward do I pick up other people's energies or moods. They were along those lines. The answer is yes and no. I can and for so long have picked up on the energy of people around me. It ahs affected me to where I then am "in" their mood.I have learned to keep their energy separate so that I do not walk around carrying their weight. Suffice to say, I answered no to those questions for I DO NOt let it in yet I have the capacity to. So how that affects the outcome, I am unsure. I disagree with the ehaler portion, though. Here are the results with that said: Precog 95% Judge 95% Shaman 95% Universal 85% Traveler 80% Healer 80% Artist 70% Fallen Angel 50%
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posted April 30, 2009 12:04 PM
It's amazing to me that the vast majority of people still cannot begin to fathom the significance, and reality, of inner experience. My grandmother tells about how, when she was little, very poor, and living through the great depression, she would walk around with holes in her shoes. She tells this story to prove that she has "been there", -- that she has suffered, and she knows what its like to be down. She tells it, also, as an excuse to avoid thinking about anything. She does not say it explicitly, but it is clear that she intends to suggest that, if you have not walked around with holes in your shoes, you have no idea what it is to struggle. I hear the same thing from people who endure any sort of difficulty in the outer world. They seem to think that outer struggles are the only real ones, and that all true, real experience occurs in the outer world. My Grandmother says, "What I know does not come from books. I have endured a long life full of experience, and I have suffered and known poverty. This is not up for debate." Here is part of a letter I wrote to her:
"I will say that you shouldnt underestimate the amount of life experience that can be packed into 15 years of living with 'mental illness' every day of your life. This isnt up for debate, lol. I dont know much about shoes, but I have leaks in my auric field. It makes me an empath, and it makes it hard to walk down the street, or watch t.v., or do just about anything. I absorb the emotions of other people -- people who have been thru wars and everything else you can imagine. I recently had a reading with a reputable psychic who told me that, in a recent past life, I was held in prison, tortured, and raped for years and years. She said I was a spiritual authority and I had hope and faith for years, but I was never freed from prison, and my faith (along with the rest of me) was traumatized. I dont expect you to give credence to something like this, but I share it anyway, in case you may, at least, be open to the possibility of such things. While much of the information I point to in order to corroborate my understanding is from books, the intuition and intellect that guides me is not. Since I learned to think, I discovered that I understood a great many things without reading or experiencing them. The more I searched, the more I found my own deep understanding corroborated by the life experiences of wise old men (as recorded in the books I take the time to read). I just read a book Jung wrote in his mid-80's (conspicuously lacking in actual events, but full of accounts of the 'life of the mind', which, for Jung, is the only true life) and was delighted to find someone who thinks and understands so many of the things that I do. For years, I have been contemplating the themes and questions that underly all of our life experiences, and all our ways of interpreting them. I've been conscientiously working out thoughts, practicing and learning how to think, and how to spot inconsistencies in my own, and in my neighbors', thinking. No book taught me that. That's all I'm saying. I dont mean to invalidate what you or Gramps have been through." She understood this, and replied something to the effect that she hopes she never runs into that psychic, as it sounds like an awful thing to be told, let alone to pay to hear. I responded: "Some psychics will only tell you rosy things, to make you happy and keep you coming back, but I tend to be more suspicious of their legitimacy. Anyway, I would rather know the whole truth. And I think it can be, and has been (for me), very healing to be validated in that way. My whole life, I have felt as though I have been through some sort of unbelievable trauma. But I have nothing I can point to as an 'excuse', when people say, "Oh, what have you suffered?" Every day of my life I am open to thoughts and emotions that arise from the depths and corners of my psyche, demanding me to admit them into my deliberations, and undermining any chance I have at a "normal" life. It is not for me, to settle into some narrow niche. The life of action is inherently narrow and limiting, and one must have the ability to limit oneself, in order to be active in the world. But in my mind, in my heart, and in my soul, I am open (whether I wish it or not) to the whole of life, and I take part in the minds, hearts, and efforts of every man (and everyman). I am not spared the residue of the life of action; only the respect and many of the benefits it confers. I feel sure that many people, if they could see the world through my eyes, would much prefer their outward difficulties, to the inward ones I face." And I'm not even going to mention (well, okay, I am mentioning it) the mental and emotional "taxes" that I have to pay (in accordance with a Higher government) to support people who are too lazy, or sick, to think outside the box, and feel outside themselves. So, yeah.... This -- Empathy/Empaths -- is a very important reality, and one I wish more people would be made aware of. Thanks for posting the thread, LTT. IP: Logged |
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posted April 30, 2009 12:54 PM
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Imagination [...] is the power that enables us to empathize with humans whose experiences we have never shared. Unlike any other creature on this planet, humans can learn and understand, without having experienced. They can think themselves into other people's minds, imagine themselves into other people's places. Many prefer not to exercise their imaginations at all. They can close their minds and hearts to any suffering that does not touch them personally. [...] Those who choose not to empathize may enable real monsters. For without ever committing an act of outright evil ourselves, we collude with it, through our own apathy.~ J.K. Rowling
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