posted November 28, 2008 01:48 AM              

Exploring so many depths
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIGS0VI-uvU

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posted November 28, 2008 07:02 PM            

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I don't know why she was so bothered about his face.

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posted November 28, 2008 08:40 PM            

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At the end, wasn't she just an illusion anyways?

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OK....I will watch it again and give a blow by blow account when I get time.

posted November 29, 2008 08:21 AM            

She felt she might be able to love and accept him anyway.

But he couldnt accept himself.

He wore the mask for himself, not for her.

posted December 06, 2008 07:39 AM            

Heaps of Love,
Dean.

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I realized it for the first time in my life:
there is nothing but mystery in the world,
how it hides behind the fabric of our poor,
browbeat days, shining brightly, and we don't even know it.

Sue Monk Kidd, "The Secret Life of Bees", p79

posted December 09, 2008 04:25 PM              

I know what you mean, the first time I saw this movie was a few years after high school and did not get it. I just now, recently, decided to watch it again, after going thru all of my movies. I actually e-mailed Lexx asking her questions, and finally watched again, and got it!

I'll be back to night to post about all of this-- Lexx, that was not Sophia's (Penelope Cruz's) voice in the end waking him up (when his eye opens), it's a nurse or doctor waking him up from LE. Listen to it carefully, I posted the link at the top

I'll be back tonight to comment on the movie.

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posted December 09, 2008 11:29 PM            

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Lexx, that was not Sophia's (Penelope Cruz's) voice in the end waking him up (when his eye opens), it's a nurse or doctor waking him up from LE. Listen to it carefully

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posted December 11, 2008 02:40 AM              

Tom Cruise is with Cameron Diaz; he never loved her-- then he meets Penelope Cruz, after the car accident with Cameron Diaz, Cameron Diaz dies, and Tom Cruise's face is basically deformed.

Up until after the club with Penelope Cruz and Tom's friend (when Tom wears a mask) and after all three go home, he goes home and signs up for LE on the internet. He leaves his father's friend in charge of his percentage to the company-- he later commits suicide and LE takes over-- after that, "it's all a dream in his LE state."

He never murdered Sophia (Penelope Cruz), nor went to jail, etc; that was all a mistake, he began having nightmares in his LE state. He's actually been in LE for 150 years, which means that Sophia and probably all of the people he knew are dead now.

And at the end, when he wakes up (when his eye opens), when the lady says, "Open your eyes" is a nurse working in the LE organization telling him to "open your eyes," as he decided to come back after talking to the tech support

Sophia (Penelope Cruz) truly loved him but Tom barely knew her, unfortunately, although he loved her too (or realized she was for him)-- and, yes, his face changed to normal when he sees Sophia again at the end, as he is creating his reality in his dream state-- but, she never cared that his face was damaged in real life, before he signed to LE

His face will be cured, but as the Tech support guy told him, everything will be all different.

As Lexx said, it will all make sense after he talks to the tech support guy at the end. The reason he didn't know what happaned to him, as to him comitting suicide, etc, is because they (LE) erased his memory, as the tech support guy tells him

The first time we see the tech support guy, is a foreshadowing of him signing up for LE

the middle of part 12 and the entire part of 13, tells it all:

Part 12:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-KmMcY_gtI&feature=related

Part 13:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIGS0VI-uvU

Lexx, let me know your thoughts, you are good at this-- thanks for motivating me to see it again~

The movie evokes the quest for eternal life and eternal youth; the consequences and choices we make in our lives that changes us forever-- among other factors

*** The New York Times

What a brilliant, wonderful and authentic movie, I'm glad I revisited this movie

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posted December 12, 2008 01:55 AM              

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And here still getting to know Sophie and they both talk about Benny the dog and LE while watching a show about it on Television. Later he hunts LE down on the internet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnXitt1gMPM

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Which was a foreshadowing in the movie which signifies that Tom will sign for LE later on [books, stories and films use foreshadowing, as it's vital in literary or film works]. While both Tom and Penelope Cruz watch the show Penelope (Sophia) says, " That's comforting-- it's safe for Benny, I am in" but that was in context of their conversation, as they were both watching the show. What she truly meant was that it's safe for her, but putting emphasis on the "comfort" zone she was currently in with Tom, at that moment, hugging each other.

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So Sophie knew about LE...and I feel she opted to be frozen too after David died and the memorial party for him.
Look at how she acts at the memorial and what LE TECH SUPPORT says about her. Like the LE people knew all about her.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIGS0VI-uvU
Look at Sophie..that is a truly heartbroken love sick person.

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Correct, and you got me thinking here, but I looked at that part, and the tech support guy says to Tom in the elevator in regards to what you posted, " Your friend, Brian, showed "me" through your 3 day memorial in your old time, he was a true friend" Meaning, Brian, Tom's friend, told the tech support guy, the Life Extension (LE) organization, all about Tom; so, he, the tech support guy or someone in the LE staff visited his memorial, as he was invited. In essence, when Penelope Cruz visited, which was a mesmerizing moment, I am almost certain that Brian told the Tech support guy, or LE organization, the short relationship Tom and Sophia had-- which was meaningful to Tom. the words "Your friend, Brian, showed "me" through your 3 day memorial" meaning showed the LE and told them about Tom; otherwise, how would he know that? ... he (the tech support guy) continues to say to Tom in the elevator after revealing it all, which I am certain this is what made you believe she signed up for LE, "It was Sophia who never truly recovered-- it was she who somehow knew you best, and like you, she never forgot that one night where true love seemed possible" Making a reference to when Tom and Penelope first met at his party and later on that night, at her apartment. The Tech support guy had to know this because Brian told him this, and because he saw her in deep pain, which shows in her face-- which was a very moving and brilliant performance by Penelope Cruz.

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I still think the voice at the end is Sophie who I feel had also in been in cryo. It is not a whisper or her being silly so it sounds different.

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Listen to it very carefully, and keep rewinding it, and you'll see it's not her voice-- Penelope has and had an accent in the movie-- the voice sound like someone else, which I think is the nurse waking him up and telling him to relax and open his eyes.

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But maybe that is the romantic in me wanting it to be her helping to bring him back to life to join her.

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I forgot to mention that he also never met the psychiatrist, it was all him dreaming-- He did, however, wear a mask, at some point.
Due to his depression, David sought the services of Life Extension, wishing to start the Lucid Dream the morning after the drunken incident, and to live under the "vanilla sky" his mother always talked about-- They, the LE organization, erased his memory where he committed suicide and erased that he chose to sign up for LE.

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He was placed in the cryogenic system, where he has been for the past 150 years. While David was experiencing the Lucid Dream, a malfunction of the system caused the dream to become a nightmare, merging Sofia and Julianna's personas and creating people, such as Dr. McCabe, out of his past memories. At the roof of the building, the man offers David a choice, to either be reinserted into the corrected Lucid Dream as to be together with Sofia forever, or to opt to wake up though this requires a leap of faith off the building. David opts to be awakened so that he can live a real life, and he takes a few last moments to say goodbye to the Dream versions of Sofia and Brian, then jumps off the building, his memories flashing through his eyes as he falls. Just as he hits the ground, a voice tells David to wake up, the film briefly focuses on his closed eye opening onto the real world.

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posted December 11, 2008 08:02 PM

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That movie blows my mind a bit. It's kinda scary. But I like it- it's a cool film.

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Yeah, it's a great film, it makes one wonder if our lives are just a dream and we don't even know it! Amazing, really~

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posted December 12, 2008 02:59 AM              

This is my favorite scene which brought tears to my eyes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R48BUfpdixI&feature=related

Brilliant! And, have you all listened to the score of this film, which plays in this scene? I bought it some time ago-- so touching; there's a melancholy to it

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