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26taurus
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posted December 20, 2008 09:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Please share your opinions or experiences. Has anyone ever successfully cleared themselves or another? How did you go about doing it? I'm still not sure where I stand on my belief in this but would like to learn more. Thanks!

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posted December 20, 2008 09:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message
There are some interesting articles here: http://www.alchemyrealm.com/index.htm
I've only read the ones in the "Other Phenomena" section so far:

Other Phenomena

Entities

Cords

Drug Abuse

Psychosis

Schizophrenia

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An entity can only get into your energy if there is a weak spot or hole in your aura. Most people have some weak spots which become worse when under pressure or emotional stress.

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At death if you are experiencing extreme emotions such as anger and hate you will be taken straight to these negative astral planes as soon as you leave the body. This is because your astral body will be resonating with the negative planes and because like attracts like in the astral world you will suddenly find yourself in these realms. Once there you will likely see all kinds of hallucinations such as monsters and the like until your astral body begins to shatter (this is often referred to as the after life wandering or the Bardos in Tibetan Buddhism). At this point your Light body will be released and you will continue up into higher dimensions but the part of your astral body that was attracted to the negative realms will likely break off as an entity. If the emotions felt at death were very common and very much a part of your personality while incarnated then the entity will be larger. Once separate the entity will first try for a host with someone or somewhere familiar such as your home or your friends and family. If it can't host on these people it will probably go for the nearest pub.

The lines along which the astral body shatters are along the lines of crystallization. The more crystallized your astral body and therefore the more rigid your personality was the more entities will be created and the larger they will be.


Interesting.

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26taurus
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posted December 20, 2008 09:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message
(link to full article below)

Dr. Modi in Remarkable Healings, learned of the presence of demons through hypnotizing her patients. Yes, there are demons as well, who inhabit astral regions. She was actually able to talk to some of these demons. They are so filled with pride that they did not mind in the least exposing their tactics. Here is what some of them had to say. As the previous quote said, they are not always telling the whole truth. They are not omniscient and they have their own agenda.

"I enter into people and take over their brains and their bodies and I manipulate their thinking and actions. Then they get on the thought and physical pattern, that they accept as their own and it goes on and on. ... I can also cause a type of cancer. Cancer can be due to chemical and biological reasons and it can also be due to the entities. ..."

"...Do you realize that mental illness is the greatest cause of death, either self-inflicted or murder? What you people do not realize about mental illness is that some of it is true dysfunction of the brain, but most of it is caused by us demons. We put in people's minds thoughts of torture, such as cutting others and killing babies [I wonder what a demons' stance on abortion would be? Editor] and other sadomasochistic thoughts. Souls get confused and they are grabbed by us after death. We stop them from going to the Light and then we try to trick them into working for Satan. ..." [Could it be, Satan! the Church Lady]

"...My job is to work deep within the organs and cause hidden pain and discomfort that are not detected easily, I create ulcers ... Human beings are so grounded in their bodies that it is easy to control them, while it is harder to control beings on other planets because they are not as grounded in their bodies. ... I worked with nerve cells and molecules." [this guy gets around, he must have some serious frequent flier miles logged] [p.s. demons and fallen angels hate laughter and true joy, their job is to make us feel miserable—as miserable as them. Editor]

"...We crowd around people when they are watching violent and horror movies, at home and in the movie theaters. When they become shocked and scared, their shields open and we can enter their bodies. Then we motivate them to watch these movies. We also shoot black laser beams into people and send a black, sticky substance. The more people in the movie theater, the greater the negative energy. The more they watch these violent movies, the more hardened they get. They develop apathy, indifference, and noncaring attitudes. We make them angry, hateful, insensitive, and cold. They are under our influence like puppets." [what's the real horror show and what's not? Editor]

[Demons and entities also love to yank the chains of people who have a predilection for religious fanaticism. No religion is free from fanatics. These demons sit in their little corner of the astral plane overcome with perverse uncontrollable glee because they are able to kill two birds with one stone. The fanatic spues out untruths, hatred and anger, even mayhem and terrorism; and good people are subsequently turned off by religion. Editor]

"...When people watch X-rated and pornographic movies, they lower their vibrations and open their shields for us to come in. Then we give them obsession to watch them more and more. Images are stored in the visual cortex. We can restimulate their visual cortex through a transmitter type of device and give them urges to watch these movies. We also squeeze their testicles and give them inappropriate sexual urges. They seem to focus at the lower level of vibration and it retards spiritual development. Their concentration is focused outside their partner and weakens their love and relationship. They develop indifference and inability to see their partner as a person. They think of them as an object."

[a question about negative types of music] "... Here we work through your ears. Focused concentration on music has a mesmerizing effect, almost hypnosis. The negative messages are accepted as suggestions and are recorded in the auditory cortex. The loud and cacophonous music can open the shield and we can come in and give them more desire to listen to the music and act on the negative messages. We plant into their auditory cortex transmitter type devices, which we can activate from outside the person and replay the negative messages over and over, till they act on them. You people do not realize how these movies and music can be addictive in nature and simply shift your focus away from your spiritual growth and mislead you." pp. 326-331. [a Dartmouth study recently prooved that melodies can stay in the cortex, Editor]

Difficult stuff to digest, a little bitter in the belly, I expect. Maybe you have some friendly pet critters hanging about that hate this message. They are kicking and screaming, trying to convince you that their thoughts are your thoughts. An interesting dilemma.

If one is interested, there are ways to get rid of them. Confession, asking for forgiveness and then leading a righteous life is the best antidote. As Jesus said, 'the devil has nothing in me,' which means if there is nothing in us to attract these demons and entities then they will have no power and leave us alone.

To accelerate the process, asking for Divine assistance from someone like Archangel Michael is the best form of exorcism. In some traditions such as Catholicism and Theosophy, a stainless steel sword or long knife used with calls to St. Michael will work wonders cutting away these infestations of the astral world. Use that sword all over your body as you give Pope Leo XIII''s prayer below (this is the short version). The more you give it the better. Your critter pals also hate certain types of incense, like frankincense, pine and deodar. Now visualize Archangel Michael standing right there and get to work, unless of course there is a small voice inside of you saying otherwise.

Saint Michael, the Archangel, defend us in the day of battle; be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray, and do thou, O prince of the heavenly host, by the power of God, thrust into hell, satan and all the other evil spirits, who roam through the world, seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

To go to a large picture of Archangel Michael with this prayer below, click here.

I would not recommend doing exorcism on other people. You might stir up a hornet's nest that you are ill equipped to deal with. Happy hunting.

God Bless,

William House

—the Editor, Reverse Spins

Another article on demon and entity possession by Reverse Spins: Terrorism and Fanatics
http://www.reversespins.com/possession.html

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26taurus
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posted December 20, 2008 10:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Looks like quite a site:

Energy Parasites----the Sagan View article copyright 2006 by Jonathan Zap

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Remember, fragments are basically stupid. All they can do is repeat the same emotional reactions endlessly.

Energy Sappers

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Sensitives observe that certain activities, ideas or experiences seem to increase the inflow of energy into the field of a given individual. When an individual comes into the presence of a well-beloved person all three of his energy fields are intensely brightened. He appears to have more energy of a bright and scintillating quality in these fields. This is very apparent in comparison with his usual energy field. A purely physical sex emotion appears to “muddy’ the emotional field and dull the mental field.

Some people show a brightened energy field under the stimulus of interesting intellectual conversation. In these cases it appears to be the mental field which first receives an inflow of energy and the effect spreads to the emotional and vital fields. The fields of the individual can be observed as they change, often from a rather mediocre state of brightness to a vital and scintillating state. This can happen very quickly with a highly intelligent person who responds with sensitive enthusiasm to the world of ideas. Actually the person appears to those around him to become more vivacious and energetic. The sensitive is aware of what has happened in the energy fields around such an individual. The ordinary observer is simply aware of a new enthusiasm in the individual.

link to all related articles: http://www.zaporacle.com/textpattern/?c=Mind

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26taurus
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posted December 20, 2008 10:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I bolded part of the above because I've noticed this exact phenomena occuring in my life experience!!

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ListensToTrees
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posted December 20, 2008 10:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I would take the stuff on demons with a grain of salt. I am also interested in this type of thing, but I think that there are many illusions out there, different ideas from different people- phantasmagoria. The best bet is to look within for guidance.

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26taurus
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posted December 20, 2008 10:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Thank you. Great advice, LTT.

My heart is telling me to look into it.

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26taurus
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posted December 20, 2008 10:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I may order this book *by Samuel Sagan
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000578.html

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26taurus
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posted December 20, 2008 10:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message
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The best bet is to look within for guidance.

and for demons. lol

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26taurus
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posted December 20, 2008 10:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Demons and other things of that nature may be part of the illusion, but that doesnt mean they cant pester and wreak havoc on ...in? people and lives who are locked in here for the time being; hinder our growth until we release or dissolve them. And most of us travellers are (locked in) for now so to speak. Maybe brushing them off as part of this Grand Illusion isnt helpful or healthy? Perhaps that's just what they want.

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26taurus
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posted December 20, 2008 10:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message
A painting involving Archangel Michael has just started forming....

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26taurus
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posted December 20, 2008 11:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message
WOW very interesting writing here.
And I recieved some loud and clear confirmation on some things i was pondering.


*random bolding mine

"Early on, Dr. Sagan confronts the possibility that the entities are actually psychological aspects mistaken for external agents,


When considering the topic of entities, one important question usually comes to mind: Are these entities not simply parts of the client’s psyche? Are they not merely unresolved complexes, subpersonailites, or parts of the client’s “shadow”?

…When dealing with entities, however, their subjective experience is different. In particular, an entity gives a much greater feeling of separateness than a subpersonality. When exploring an entity, clients often make comments such as “It does not feel like myself,” “It feels foreign,” “It is a parasite,” “It has not always been inside,” “It has taken residence, but it does not belong here.” Moreover, subpersonalities are considerably more complicated than entities. An entity is usually an unsophisticated “lump” of energy and consciousness with simple and predictable behavioral patterns.

Dr. Sagan references Taoist concepts which he relates to the phenomenon (“Po” has to do with the emotional body and “Hun” has to do with spirituality and intellect),


…Po and the Hun are said to separate at death in way that parallels the astral shattering described in the next chapter. In the Chinese model, the Po remain bound to the earth after death, due to their descending polarity, whereas the Hun, due to their upward moving tendency, ascend to the spiritual worlds, following the Shen (which is equivalent of the Higher Self). After death, once the separation of the different parts constituting a human being has taken place, these parts are no longer called Po and Hun, but kuei and Shen….


…The ancient Chinese spoke of the kuei as “wandering souls” or remnants of the dead---unsatisfied, greedy spirits. The kuei need to be fed and pacified with offerings, otherwise they start harassing the living.


This ancient Chinese idea is obviously very close to the “hungry ghosts” or “pretas” described in Buddhist tradition. Sagan continues,

In ancient China, the kuei were not only part of the literature or folklore, but were also part of daily life. In all trades and areas of life, it was customary to take the kuei into account and perform rituals to protect oneself against their pernicious actions… the art of medicine, for instance, recognized kuei as one of the factors that can create disease. Thus, among the 361 points of the fourteen main meridians of acupuncture, seventeen have the word kuei as part of their main or secondary names…


What happens to the kuei in the long run? According to the ancient Chinese, the kuei are not immortal. Their existence is limited, and lasts only until their vitality is exhausted. Afterward, they dissolve. What belongs to the earth returns to the earth, is composted and reintegrated in the universal cycle of energies.


From Dr. Sagan’s point of view, natural or man-made disasters are particularly dangerous for energy parasite acquisition,


.....natural disasters, such as earthquakes, or man-made ones, such as battles, war, and fires. Moreover, from what we have described about the shattering of the astral body after death, we can see that any catastrophe that kills tens or hundreds of thousands of people will be followed by the release of a tidal wave of astral fragments.


This is an extremely interesting theory, and I have long noted that some of the symptoms of posttraumatic stress, particularly in war veterans, present many aspects of mind parasite infestation.


In Mind Parasites, Energy Parasites and Vampires (http://www.zaporacle.com/textpattern/article/6/mind-parasites-energy-parasites-and-vampires) I describe a number of connections between the mind parasite phenomenon and the moon. Dr. Sagan points out that the ancient Chinese, as well as Tibetan and Indian masters, consider the new and full moons as dangerous times for sexual intimacy, even without orgasm or ejaculation. Taoists also discourage therapeutic acts during the full moon such as acupuncture, surgery and dental procedures. Chinese, Hindus and many other cultures consider menstruation (which follows a lunar cycle) a dangerous time for sexual intercourse.


Parasitic entities are recognized by many cultures as a possible cause of physical and psychological illness,
Ayurveda, the traditional medicine of India, makes a clear distinction between the cases of insanity due to internal factors and those brought on by the pernicious influence of certain nonphysical beings.
One of Dr. Sagan's clients gave a description of her parasite that had a striking parallel to the parasite I encountered in the second case history presented inMind Parasites, Energy Parasites and Vampires. The client reports,
At home he makes me drink a lot of coffee, listen to loud music, and invite a lot of people over. If I can’t do that he makes me panic, He hates it when I mediate. If I mediate he turns into a white spiral and spins.

And here is the description from my essay, written long before I read Sagan's book:

There was a parasitic entity in the sleeping loft hovering just bellow the roof near our feet. It was like a dark lenticular cloud, or vortex, with a somewhat double convex lens shape similar to the way a spiral galaxy looks from a great distance. My visual perception of it was not definite; it was dark and amorphous with fractal boundaries and rotating movement.

Dr. Sagan emphasizes the fragmentary and mechanical nature of the entities he observes,


Another fact we have observed is that entities are usually singularly focused, polarized in one narrow direction and always wanting the same things or repeating the same emotions. This also indicates that they are not the whole of the dead person but only a fragment corresponding to one particular character of theirs.


Later he remarks,


Remember, fragments are basically stupid. All they can do is repeat the same emotional reactions endlessly.


Dr. Sagan is also very confident that most parasites can be easily treated,


From the point of view of the clearer, the fragments and various other entities that we have seen so far are insignificant. If one has received the proper training, removing them is about as easy as taking a pebble out of a bucket. Once the client has observed the entity for a few days, as explained in chapter 14, the clearing doesn’t take more than a few minutes. Then the entity is recycled in such a way that it will never invade anyone else. Altogether, if a qualified clearer is available, having an entity is preferable to having a sore back: the treatment is painless and quick, and once cleared the entity never comes back. For this reason, I prefer to use the word clearing rather than exorcism, as the latter is shrouded in a folklore that is totally irrelevant in the context of this work. There is nothing demonic at all about these insignificant parasites. In 99 percent of all cases, an entity could never be called evil. It is just an energy in the wrong place, like the bacteria that are beautifully in place in a compost heap but totally undesirable in your small intestine.


Near the end of the book, Dr. Sagan discusses the 1% of cases he investigates where other sorts of entities seem to be involved, and this is the closest point of connection between this book and Joe Fisher’s The Siren Call of the Hungry Ghosts (see my review at http://www.zaporacle.com/textpattern/article/95/the-siren-call-of-hungry-ghosts)


This chapter is entitled “Possession and Extraordinary Entities.” Unfortunately, I am afraid there is nothing extraordinary at all in mistaking an entity for a spirit-guide. This has become only too common these days, when “talking to one’s spirit-guides” is increasingly regarded as a sign of status, just as credit cards or membership in certain clubs used to be. My perception is that many of the people who presently think they are in contact with a spirit guide are in reality in contact with nothing more than an entity.


Dr. Sagan’s book is an extremely important exploration of the energy parasite phenomenon. His approach is no nonsense and there is no sense of self aggrandizement in tone or content. The entities described in this book are, like the ones in The Siren Call of Hungry Ghosts, parasites, but the difference in intelligence and complexity is quite dramatic. The closest corroborating experience from my own investigations relate to the physical cravings associated with the parasites. I have long noted that there seems to be a parasitic influence oriented toward creating a hypercaloric metabolism that “burns at a redder color temperature,” as I have referred to it, due to the ingestion of high glycemic carbs, alcohol, spicy, salty foods, meats, etc. Similarly, there are influences to create negative thoughts, emotions, darker sexual passions and deeds.

Some observed behavior of parasitic entities reveals a high level of intelligence and complexity, but that does not mean that there are not other parasitic entity species that are of a much simpler, more mechanical kind as Dr. Sagan describes. Wherever we find life, we find multiple parasite species.

I highly reccomend this book to anyone making a serious study of the subject. Dr. Sagan's school trains people to remove energy parasites and their website is clairvision.org.

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ListensToTrees
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posted December 20, 2008 11:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEkANn1IBaQ&feature=related

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posted December 20, 2008 11:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Fascinating information. What is the name of the book by Carl Sagan he is talking about?

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26taurus
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posted December 20, 2008 11:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I appreciate you sharing that. I saw a lot of political figure heads and was turned right off, an image of a girl crying at the beginning and he started going into how he was going to give an extremely complex explanation of the workings of evil. I dont really need that.

I don't think anything is that complicated. The truth is simple. Evil comes down to the ego aspects of self in each and everyone and the world as a whole. That is our problem. I know demons are another word we can use for the same kind of thing. I dont really need a complicated explanation, instead I am interested in methods of undoing. Today I felt I should explore this realm of it more. From what I'm reading it boils down to the same thing. I know the basis and dont want to get caught up there, but begin to work on transformatioin of self. I've read enough books by enlightened yogic and other Masters on the workings of the ego=evil. So, I've got a pretty good handle on it's tricks. The tricky part is dissolving it.

I know about the evil possessed politicians and the possessed guy down the hall too. We're all working with the same demon. IMHO.

And I'm very sensitive to violent and graphic images which is why I dont focus on looking at them or watch horror flicks. I dont know if there are a lot of them in those 21 videos but I dont want to find out. My image imprint memory is strong and I dont need those pictures in there. There's interesting blurb pertaining to just that I that I could identify with in something posted above.

Thank you for sharing and extending more info to us in the thread though!
Nothing is wasted, so I'm sure some others will learn something from those links.

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posted December 20, 2008 11:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Oh, it's Samuel Sagan! I posted the link to the book in Pilgrims Progress above. Looks like a good one doesnt it?!

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posted December 20, 2008 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Not Carl Sagan who was a scientist and a logical man,
but it is Samuel Sagan 25taurus is speaking of. http://www.clairvision.org/ckb/ckbe/ckbc/fol_0000_0001/cat_0000_0122/qid_1998_0000 _0036.html

Edit to add...
I did not see your post before I posted 26taurus.

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posted December 20, 2008 11:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message
When I read 'Sagan' I immediately thought it was Carl too.

Thanks for the link LEXX.

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posted December 20, 2008 11:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message
You might enjoy the other article linked above, too, LTT.

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posted December 20, 2008 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
You are welcome 26taurus!

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posted December 20, 2008 11:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message
LEXX.

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posted December 20, 2008 11:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I'll let you know how the book is and maybe we can add it to the lending library in Pilgrim's Progress and pass it around.

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posted December 20, 2008 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
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Please share your opinions or experiences. Has anyone ever successfully cleared themselves or another? How did you go about doing it? I'm still not sure where I stand on my belief in this but would like to learn more. Thanks!
Interesting topic 26taurus.
I may contribute later but at Divine Diversities as this topic crosses over into religious beliefs and various other myths.
I have to also re-read your posts. Some I might agree with but not all for sure. Especially as to the bits that deal with who is good and who is evil...or what.


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26taurus
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Thank you. I look forward to that. I know you have posted much on this topic, but at the time I must not have been interested too much in it and didnt read the threads. Maybe I will search through old ones here. And yes, I debated on putting this in DD but didnt think it would spiral out into the religious aspect that it kind of has!!

I'm turning up answers left and right and think I've found what I was looking for or it's piecing together... May the thread continue anyway though!

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posted December 21, 2008 03:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I can't recommend this book enough.

This woman is a spiritual hero...

She turns demons into white cranes.

Stuff like that.

I think maybe its right up your alley these days, T.

http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Soul-Shamanism-Ann-Drake/dp/0966619668

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