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Glaucus
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posted March 21, 2009 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I am interested in the fine line between neurological disorders and mystical perceptions. It's found that temporal lobe seizures could lead to mystical experiences. Scientists say that could be a mystical part of the brain. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6664802

I am a believer that mystical experiences do exist. I also believe that they can be in synchronicity with temporal lobe seizures.

I think that there can be fine line between synchronicity and cause/effect when it comes to physiological activity and perceptual experiences.

Some scientists dismiss out of body experiences because they find that brain activity can be monitored during out of body experiences. Out of body experiences can be in synchronicity with brain activity. Who is to say that people aren't coming out of their bodies. What if there is like some type of energy cord that connects their minds to their bodies.
It could also be that a person focuses their mind's eye at different focal points and be so vivid in their visual thinking that it can seem like they are having out of body experiences. I know that I am such a visual thinker, I visualize everything while I am doing it like I am seeing myself in the mirror. It could be my focusing my minds eye on myself. Whenever I focus my eyes on a side of an object, my mind's eye seems to automatically focus on other sides of the object. When I give people massages,I tend to visualize the muscle I am massaging. When I go to a dentist, even though my eyes are closed, I would visualize the instrument in my mouth and the actions that it's doing at the time as well as where its at the time, even visualizing stuff the inside of my mouth,blood,nerves,etc. That's how visual that I am in my thinking. It's just automatic. For a long time,I couldn't understand why books were written about advising how to visualize and imagine things. I thought everybody could visualize and imagine things easily. I thought everybody thinks in pictures like I do. Well...I turned out to be wrong.


I do wonder if the more visual a person is in his/her thought processes, the more likely he/she could experience out of body experiences.

I also wonder if the more visual a person is in his/her thought processes, the more likely he/she could be disoriented and confused.

Ronald D. Davis talks about how disorientation/confusion can lead to distorted perceptual experiences that neurodivergents have. He believes that the highly visual,picture thinking of dyslexics makes them use their disorientation to automatically distort their peceptions but also can be used to see things from other perspectives. He believes those things are strongly connected to each other. They are highly imaginative. They could actually have an overactive imagination that leads to the perceptual distortions. http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album03&id=Gift_Of_Dyslexia_010_gif http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album03&id=Gift_Of_Dyslexia_014_gif http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album03&id=Gift_Of_Dyslexia_015_gif http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album03&id=Gift_Of_Dyslexia_016_gif http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album03&id=Gift_Of_Dyslexia_017_gif


This could even apply to people with schizophrenia. Disorientation/confusion is commonly viewed as a symptom of schizophrenia. Schizophrenics have distorted perceptions. Schizophrenics are highly imaginative too. Their schizophrenia can be connected to having an overactive imagination leading to perceptual distortions.


Antipsychotics seemed to be used to harness the imagination of schizophrenics. Maybe the antipsychotics are actually be used to harness their visual thinking.

People that believe in the Indigo concept believe that psychiatric medications suppresses the psychic,mystical gifts of Indigos. Maybe the psychiatric medications are harnessing their right hemisphere strengths that include being highly imaginative,visual,nonlinear thought processes.

Maybe psychiatric medications..especially antipsychotics can make rightbrained types of people be more leftbrained. The psychiatric medications lead to schizophrenics to be more organized and linear in their thinking.

lower doses of antipsychotics could actually be used to make rightbrained people in general to be more organized and linear in their thought processes.
This can be an ethical problem.....especially if many children are having problems in school because they have strong right hemisphere processes that make it hard for them to learn left hemisphere type ways of teachings as in auditory sequential teaching methods including lecturing. If they are daydreaming a lot in school,and that inteferes with their school work, that could be a problem too. What if they are actually doing a lot creativity,art,and other things associated with strong right hemisphere activity? How would the medication impact those activities? That is something to consider. Not everybody is cut out for academics. We could forcing naturally rightbrained children to be leftbrained. Why not incoporate Montessori,Waldorf teaching methods in education institutions including preschool,elementary,jr high,high school,and college? Teaching should reach all learning styles.

Ronald D. Davis, talks about focusing mind's eye....He talks about it from his experience as a neurodivergent...He talks about the shifting of the mind's eye and move it to optimum viewpoint for real-world perception can help with disorientation of neurodivergents.......who knows....maybe that could help with schizophrenic's symptoms too http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album03&id=Gift_Of_Dyslexia_018_gif http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album03&id=Gift_Of_Dyslexia_019_gif http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album03&id=Gift_Of_Dyslexia_020_gif


Disorientation/confusion also are symptoms of cerebellar-vestibular dysfunction which Dr. Harold N. Levinson believes is root of neurodivergent conditions. http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album03&id=Smart_But_Feeling_Dumb_Dyslexia_018_gif

Dr. Harold N. Levinson and Ronald D. Davis seemed to degree on somethings about neurodivergent conditions. They both beleive that neurodivergent conditions have highly significant overlapping symptoms and comorbid. That's why Dr Levinson refers to the whole neurodivergence as Dyslexic Syndrome, and Ronald D. Davis believes that root of neurodivergent conditions is Dyslexia which he views as a perceptual talent. That's why his first book was called GIFT OF DYSLEXIA.
They both believe that the neurodivergent conditions and disorientation/confusion are strongly connected. The only difference is that Dr. Levinson believes that it stems from cerebellar vestibular dysfunction,and should be treated with antimotion sickness medication. Ronald D. Davis believes that it stems from being a highly visual,picture thinker, and that it can be resolved with mind's eye focus therapy.


I believe that cerebellar-vestibular dysfunction can be in synchronicity with neurodivergent conditions and not just cause and effect. It could be one of those " what came first....the chicken or the egg" I believe that it's possible that the neurodivergent person can be ultrasensitive to sensory input to the point that the cerebellar vestibular system is overwhelmed which results in disorientation/confusion. Therefore, cerebellar vestibular problems could actually be the symptoms of hypersensitivity. I am just coming at it from a neurodivergent perspective.

Things like Omega 3 fatty acids not only found to decrease the symptoms of neurodivergents, but also decrease hypersensitivity too. Neurodivergents tend to be hypersensitive any way. Certain vitamins and minerals help with cerebellar vestibular functioning too,and they also can decrease hypersensitivity...especially Vitamin B complex which is known as the stress vitamin. Motion sickness medications are used to treat cerebellar vestibular dysfunction. They could actually decrease hypersensitivity. Motion sickness could stem from hypersensitivity to movements.

In psychology text books, I have read that schizophrenics can be hypersensitive and so they can retreat inside themselves for protection. However, this also be said for people with autism.

Studies show that Omega 3 fatty acids can help with schizophrenia,bipolar too. Hypersensitivity is very common in people with those psychiatric disorders. Also Vitamin B6 and zinc deficiencies can lead to schizophrenia and bipolar issues. Pyroluria is a condition that pulls Vitamin B6 and zinc out of the system which can lead to schizophrenic,bipolar symptoms.

I am interested in mind machines. Maybe they could be used to decrease the symptoms of neurological,psychological disorders.

flickering lights can't be used for people with history of seizures though.

I have mind machine called The Proteus

The Proteus will give you an awe-inspiring experience. To begin, simply select one of the pre-programmed sessions, put on the headphones and lightframes, and press the start button. The session will gently guide you into other mental states by stimulating your senses with special patterns of sound and synchronized colored lights.

Extraordinary kaleidoscopic patterns of color are seen behind your closed eyelids that dance with thick washes and pulses of sound. These special combinations of flickering color and sound pulses also have an effect on your brainwaves. Geometric patterns shape-shift and color cycle while guiding you through the session toward the mind state you desire. http://www.mindmodulations.com/prodprot.html

Raymond

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Philbird2
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posted March 21, 2009 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird2     Edit/Delete Message
Dr Jill Bolte Taylor has an amazing u tube video! Google it. My stroke of insight.
I don't have much time right now to post to this, but have a lot of info on the subject of the sort.

You will be inspired and amazed, I promise!!!!!!!
Mary
P.S. I suffer from temperal lobe seizures and complex partial seizures, sometimes it is amazing and at other times very frustrating!

But please do a search for her name, she also has a book.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 22, 2009 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU&feature=PlayList&p=E388C18C443516D0&index=0&playnext=1

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Philbird2
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posted March 22, 2009 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird2     Edit/Delete Message
yes, that's the one, ty

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Obe
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posted March 23, 2009 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Obe     Edit/Delete Message
schools need to teach all sorts of different things that they are not teaching, children should go to music and other art classes at young ages so that they have a better chance at directing their mental strengths properly. Unfortunately for some reason, it doesn't work like that
nothing in our lives can be separate from biology...so of course imagination and mystical experiences will have synchronistic effects with our bodies, the mind and body are not separate, there is not even such a thing as one without the other
chew on it

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