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listenstotrees
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posted November 14, 2009 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message
Who's up for a discussion?

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aka Kat
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posted November 14, 2009 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aka Kat     Edit/Delete Message
me me me!

I think most frequently we come from imagination and believe it is our wise internal guidance system when it is just our right brain conjuring up some creative stuff or drama.

our ego can trick us into thinking it is our wise intuitive voice when our ego is running the show.

Individuals with no consistent creative craft like painting or writing can easily confuse the zen like meditative state of creating art and other right brained stuff with a higher state of consciousness or even think that they are chanelling an entity while it is just the natural process of our brain at creative work.

Intuition is a knowing. If you reflect calmly there is no emotional charge, yet it is wise and takes into account your well being.

I have found intuition to be very brief flashes usually with no words, just a deep "feeling" or knowing.

Any flashes that have a feeling of fear or "don't do this" is our ego. In the case of danger, the "don't do this" is not intuition, but our natural fight or flight response.

Intuition gives us guidance what to do that would move us forward in love and expansion of our current self.

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listenstotrees
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posted November 14, 2009 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, I know what you mean!

You also said: With no emotional charge.

You've got me thinking; I think this provides an important key!

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teasel
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posted November 14, 2009 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
I had a warning that just came to me. It happened when I was sixteen... I became very upset at the time, only to dismiss it later, as being silly. The thing I was warned about, happened a week later. The night it happened, I let someone convince me that I was worrying too much (I kept getting little nudges, that made me uneasy). If I'd listened, it would never have happened. I somehow forgot the initial big warning, until that later that night (*afterwards*) - that goes to show how much I trusted that gut-punch feeling, and thought I was just being neurotic. Lesson learned.

So, I wouldn't say that it always lacks an emotional charge, but I do understand what you're getting at, Kat. Most of the time, it is just a knowing.

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posted November 14, 2009 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
"Individuals with no consistent creative craft like painting or writing can easily confuse the zen like meditative state of creating art and other right brained stuff with a higher state of consciousness or even think that they are chanelling an entity while it is just the natural process of our brain at creative work."

i have found that MANY doggedly creative people, musicians, artists, writers, etc who actually have taken the plunge and are making a life with their art, consider their inspiration to be LARGELY CHANNELLED or intuitive. the natural meditative state one enters when in creative mode is VERY conducive to intuitive "downloads". in fact most of the people whose work i admire take little credit for the "ideas" which they feel they "receive" because they are in that state on a regular basis...

and i think the classic example of people deciding against a trip, or missing a plane that crashes for some strange reason, is an example of intuition not imagination too.

so it is not always a "positive vibe", though i DO UNDERSTAND what you mean about the ego-tainted "premonitions" - and a lot of people who are deluded as to the "heavenly" source of their ideas!

it's a very fine line...

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posted November 14, 2009 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aka Kat     Edit/Delete Message
I still think it has no emotional charge.

In gut situations where you get a warning, the ego and our fight/flight response is still involved. We humans pick up alot of information that is not processed verbally. For instance, years ago I was in CA and needed directions, so I stopped at a gas station convenient mart. There was a man in front of me that looked like a wreck. My gut told me don't ask him. I said to myself "Don't be so judgmental." I asked him anyway and he flew off the handle and started screaming and running around the convenient mart. He was literally insane. A women behind me quickly pulled me out of the mart and offered for me to follow her to find my way.

My human perceptions picked up that something was wrong with this man, but my ego said don't be judgmental. This is instinctual as is all fear based advice. Much of it is great advice because we are wired to keep ourselves out of harm's way. I've learned to watch for instinctual advice which can also tell me I'm getting fired, someone is doing something behind my back, etc. It involves the ego, but it still has a wisdom of it's own. Next time watch and see if the thought really has no emotion or is it the reflection of the thought afterward that brings about emotions.

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posted November 14, 2009 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aka Kat     Edit/Delete Message
I do creative work all day so I've encounter that meditative state on a regular basis. I used to believe that it was spirit flowing through me. Lately I've been a bit agnostic so of course I will say that it is just the natural functioning state of the right side of our brain. Think about the phenomenol dreams you have made up at night. these people do not exist, the building designed in an instant, I've created whole collections of art that do not exist in an instant in my mind in a dream state. We have tremendous power going on in our brain. We pick up much information on a non-verbal level. I've been accused of being highly psychic. I don't know anymore, when I look at the situation afterward I can then see clearly what I noticed and did not process verbally. Maybe I'm more of a mentalist like that guy on the TV show.

Intuition is not positive thought. There is no emotional charge. It may say to write a letter to someone or it may say to not go to the event or get on that plane, but there is no story of good or bad right or wrong attached. Our egos create it after the thought. yes it is a fine line and the key is to understand how your own brain plays ego tricks because the ego is very quick and adaptive. As soon as you figure it out, it is already onto the next game.

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posted November 14, 2009 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
aka kat, i remember reading u are cancer, right?

i think it works out differently for different elements. i'm air (aqua) and i think the emotional impact of an intuition is what makes me notice it more. if u prefer, myself, i notice the red oor green lights if they come up with emotions.

although i agree that intuition is mental;

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posted November 14, 2009 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aka Kat     Edit/Delete Message
Yep grand kite(trine) in water (12, 8, 4th hous) with lots of water elsewhere, with the opposition in Virgo

I notice it when there is no emotion and it is cut and dry or an urge (calling) to do something.

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katatonic
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posted November 14, 2009 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i think we may be hashing over semantics to a degree here. i am agnostic myself but i still believe that SOMETHING which is called spirit for lack of a better description can be received, ignored or even called in for information. it is everywhere and to me it is pretty impersonal. i am very hesitant to say/think that there is a god with a plan for me that i can tap into.

so i'm trying to say it is a mixture of our own thought and a constantly available field of information we are tapped into to a greater or lesser degree...

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posted November 14, 2009 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aka Kat     Edit/Delete Message
Yes I agree and it is difficult to put into words. I feel that there is something out there and I'm trying to pin point it with great difficulty.

I agree, nothing is written in stone or that "God" has a plan for me. Information field I think this is a good explanation.

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posted November 15, 2009 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aka Kat     Edit/Delete Message
So something interesting happened a couple days ago.

I decided that I would win a prize from a city that has been giving away prizes like free hotel rooms, restaurants, etc. I've been entering on a regular basis for each prize. I wrote the goal down. A prize came up for $100 for an art workshop. My first reaction was that I surely would like to take a workshop (plein air or with this artist named Carol Marine) I could see myself there painting. Then I thought $100 is not alot. I hope they would have something that would cover the entire cost of the workshop especially since I would need to fly there, rent a car, stay in a hotel... would it be worth it. I'd rather have the free hotel room. Just like me, winning something I really don't need and will have to find someone else who will use it. So I entered and thought I will deal with this when I win. Yep! I received an email Friday that I won.(I'd be more specific, but my full name is now posted on their site as a winner.)

So how did I know I would win before I entered it????? I looked at the site offering the workshops and all the workshops I would want to attend are about $450 and no workshop by Carol Marine. I would gladly pay the extra money for a class with her. I'm thinking about contacting her and asking for her to have a workshop there. If that does not work, maybe I could ask the place to give the $100 to the next person that signs up or contact a local art teacher and have the $100 given to a talented student.

Interesting experience in manifestation.

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posted November 15, 2009 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message
As for me, the more I sort of pray for guidance the more intuition comes through and the less imagination acts up. I think imagination has to do with with what I want and intuition with what the universe wants, but sometimes the two coincide : )

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posted November 19, 2009 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not sure that I believe in God, either. I once believed that I saw an angel - that's what I called it when I saw it and said, "Look at the beautiful angel!" to my mother. I was on my way to another room, and stopped in my tracks in surprise... there was a lot of tension in our home that night, and my mother's friend, who was there at close to 5am - she'd stayed with my mother - freaked (she thought it meant that a death would occur).

I don't know where it comes from, I only know that I've regretted not listening to that feeling. I can see the ego relation.. my warning was about something very personal, and very upsetting. it was no soft nudge, though... I felt as though I'd been hit in the solar plexus.

I used to be an artist, so I know the meditative feeling that comes with that sort of work - or immersing yourself in any type of work. Up until my mid-twenties, I immersed myself in drawing, painting and all things creative.

In either The Intention Experiment, or Living the Field, Lynne McTaggart wrote about the possibility of intuition being warnings that are somehow sent back from yourself in the future. She also put forward the idea that there is no such thing as reincarnation, but that children claiming to have had another life, are actually pulling memories/feelings from "the field". (at least, I think it was her. http://www.theintentionexperiment.com/ )

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i am very hesitant to say/think that there is a god with a plan for me that i can tap into.

I'm not sure about God existing, as i said before, but the books that you mentioned in your thread, made some sense to me. As I was reading, four/five years ago, I had to remind myself not to take it as fact... it fascinates me, though. I still plan to have a regression.

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posted December 20, 2009 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aka Kat     Edit/Delete Message
The intention experiment. yes I have heard of this and the noetic sciences. I posted something here on research of consciousness. I think it is good that it's being done, but I question if they are following scientific protocol and the scientific method. If not, their research will never gain any acceptance.

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posted January 30, 2010 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmm, this is a very interesting thread. It's interesting how God keeps cropping up in a discussion about imagination and intuition. Sometimes it can be like both are God given, or we can't explain where they came from, so we can attribute them to God. In any case, I am constantly questioning God. Not literally, just like what does God mean really? How does knowledge of God benefit us? I think karma is more powerful a notion sometimes, and perhaps God is the artbitrator of Karma. I believe Karma exists on a Soular level, so you may be answering for events from many lives ago. So God is needed to settle the score etc.

In any case, for me intuition is yourself telling yourself something (the tutor within), which can be in the form of imagination (images), or feelings, or throughts. It could be the spark that sets these things off. Whereas Imagination is the ability to contemplate things that don't exist or see things, etc. It's a tool to understand something on a higher level than physical. Hence, imagination (and intuition) may be tied into God. Without imagination, you may not contemplate God - everything is as it is. Einstein once said "Imagination is more important than knowledge" and he was a strong believer in God. Imagination can give you answers or questions that knowledge can't. You can learn through knowledge too, but how do you make the next leap? Perhaps intuition plays a part in that too?

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posted January 31, 2010 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message
Intuition is the extra sensory perception of subtle interconnected energies.....Imagination is mind/ consciousness/ the foundation of creation.....?

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posted February 22, 2010 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cancer/Scorpio729     Edit/Delete Message
I have had little moments when the perfect idea for something I might have been writing come up and any difficulties I might have been having clear up. Probably mental creativity. The only emotion I feel is excited that everything is cleared and I have another section to the plot of my story. So, I think intuition includes a heavy feeling of either right or wrong depending on what it is warning you about.

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posted February 22, 2010 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cancer/Scorpio729     Edit/Delete Message
I have had little moments when the perfect idea for something I might have been writing come up and any difficulties I might have been having clear up. Probably mental creativity. The only emotion I feel is excited that everything is cleared and I have another section to the plot of my story. So, I think intuition includes a heavy feeling of either right or wrong depending on what it is warning you about.

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posted February 22, 2010 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Intriguing topic!
I will try to return and comment.

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posted February 23, 2010 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message
Really difficult for me to tell, my imagination is on overdrive pretty much all the time due to my work and general way of thinking. The intuitive stuff when concerning physical human people definitely tugs more at my heart than anything else and that's about the only indications I have, and its almost always right

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posted February 26, 2010 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starshine     Edit/Delete Message
Hi people The second I read the title of this thread the song Lateralus by TOOL came to me. It basically says to this topic not to over think your intuition. Intuition just is so once you stop that flow doubt creeps in and the mind beast (ego) tries to take over.
I will just type the parts that are relevant, not the whole song...

...Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines...

...over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
Withering my intuition leaving opportunities behind.
Feed my will to feel this moment urging me to cross the line.
Reaching out to embrace the random.
Reaching out to embrace whatever may come.

...I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow to feel inspired to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain,
to swing on the spiral
to swing on the spiral
to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human.

With my feet upon the ground I move myeslf between the sounds and open wide to suck it in.
I feel it move across my skin.
I'm reaching up and reaching out. I'm reaching for the random or what ever will bewilder me.
what ever will bewilder me.
And following our will and wind we may just go where no one's been.
We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been.
Spiral out. Keep going....

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