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posted February 28, 2010 03:52 PM         

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I've heard and read a lot about the law of attraction lately, and I'm not sure whether it has to power to overcome karma, numerology and astrological effects on an individual. Anyone ready to explain?

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posted March 01, 2010 07:19 AM         

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What goes around comes around? 4 is attracted to (and by) 8, as I think 9 and 6. Also, two bodies of sufficient mass, and opposite magnetic poles. I'm sure there are others. All things may be "overcome" but the stronger the vibration, the harder to overcome. Likewise, gravity is weaker than electromagnetism, but if the bodies are big and dense enough, then they could attract faster than a photon to an electron given the curcumstances. (NB: this is probably not true).

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posted March 06, 2010 04:54 PM         

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If strong vibrations oppose something you want and you try to use the law of attraction and numerology, would it take more time or more feeling to attract it? Or more of a certain number?

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posted March 06, 2010 11:40 PM         

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Welcome!

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posted March 07, 2010 12:25 AM         

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Thank you!

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posted March 16, 2010 05:19 PM         

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ive also been into LOA lately and i found out that there is one law that is more powerful than the law of karma-the law of forgiveness and of Love.

have you ever heard the hoponopono technique?it is used as a Hawaian method to cure ourselves,and it is basically

i love you

im sorry

please forgive me

and then you ask that all memories that are negative about you and the other person,to be transmuted and neutralized.

for each one good act,you sow in double what you give.those kind of things are very powerful and i believe stronger than karma.

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posted March 16, 2010 06:10 PM         

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Sounds a lot like good karma; I do good to you, you do good to me and vice versa . Except for the neutralization part, I've never heard of that before. It makes sense though. Asking for neutralization must be equivalent to forgiving and forgetting

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posted March 17, 2010 12:14 PM         

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Hey Cancer/Scorp!
And yes...Welcome to LL.

I think I understand what your saying, the ability to use the LOA is a talent that is learned in the present incarnation or has been learned in the past.
My incarnations are a good example because I have abused my knowledge of how it works in past lives and so in this life the law of attaction has always naturally worked for me but I could never really control it because my karma kept me out of balance, that's the only way a human with a block can be taught something by the Universe...its the proverbial "Learning the HARD way".... I have Pluto/DNA in the second house in Libra, opposing my Sun which is the 8th with my Mars as well.

I had to deal with the influences on my soul personality that those lifelines have caused, the goal being to transmute the Karma to neutralize it and show Energy wise to the Universe that the lesson has been learned by being a more productive member...and that is something only you can figure out as you learn to work with your own Energy and look at yourself honestly, and that, as a side note, is the honor that being an Astrologer entails, you are entrusted with a talent to help other souls learn the truth about themselves, but first we must learn about ourselves...."know thy self"....I am just learning myself, completely and fully for the first time in a long history of bad incarnations and I can say that the things we are capable of are jaw dropping. The journey has been like traveling through a Holocaust.

So anywho back to the LOA, my new best buddy..hahah....All I can say is personally, I have had a really hard time with making it work for me correctly and dependably until I finally "remembered" as it were. This happened once I over came a major block of many, in my energy that was affecting the flow of Energy in my heart chakra ...remember abundance and happiness is found in the heart chakra..so alot of our financial situation has to do with what and how we love.

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posted March 17, 2010 05:17 PM         

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I personally think that we actually get what we NEED more than what we want. For instance, you just don't get patience, you get the opportunity to experience and earn it. OneRuledbyMars is right, your heart must be open and may have to break first. The old saying "be careful what you wish for" exists for its reasons. As an Eight destiny, {thunderbolt Karma path} Saturn has many lessons to teach and rewards to give. I also believe in surrendering your will and asking according to the will of the Divine. This works rather well for me.

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posted March 17, 2010 05:32 PM         

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Mermaid,
How true right!
Have you found too, that when you finally "get it", and start paying attention to the moment you find a wealth of guides and seers in the form of soulmates all around to help you along the path your soul chose. I personally feel that when you see this happening all around you and you are strong enough to control your ego that you can transcend your chart and it is here that the "real" fun begins.

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posted March 17, 2010 09:04 PM         

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oneruledbymars,
Yes, lately I am completely freaked out by the amazing synchronicity and answers to my prayers. It's like I'm finally reaping what was sowed. I'm 44 by the way. This is supposed to be the beginning of a great twelve year cycle for me. Right now anything seems attainable if I meet my end of the deal.

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posted March 18, 2010 12:51 AM         

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OneRuledByMars,
That's awesome you got over your chart. I've had issues with the LOA too, I can't really get myself to conciously harness enough emotion for anything. I haven't figured out why since, being a Cancer with heavy Scorpio influences, I should have enough emotion to make it rain cows but it's difficult to get it to work meaningfully. I feel a constant apathy, sadly, that I'm working to clear.

Right Mermaid. If we ask to be closer to our families, instead of suddenly loving each other, we'd be given
opportunities to grow closer.

My opinion is that if it wasn't meant to be, if you start deviating from the path you chose or using the LOA for things not meant for you, stronger vibrations will overcome. These can be either positive or negative vibrations.
Btw: how do you calculate your destiny number?

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posted March 18, 2010 03:49 AM         

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I think I realized recently that the Law Of Attraction, which I understand to be that you draw to yourself what you desire deeply and truly, is maybe something that can be quite confusing because often one doesn't know your own heart's desire. So you may be doing everything to draw something specific closer to you, but then something else pops out ... like you're fishing for one thing and what you get is another ... and then you realized that the thing you got is actually the thing you really wanted. I mean last year I went bonkers trying to attract a University job, and here I am teaching Kindergarten kids "The Wheels Of The Bus Go Round And Round". Anyway the point is, it's kind of hard even now for me to realize but somehow I think this is more the kind of job that I wanted and that I'm suited for or that is right for me at this time, while the University job is what I "think" I'm suited for because I "think" I'm very clever. But maybe I'm more about caring than cleverness ... So the weird thing is, the current job opportunity came along on exactly the day I was going to my uni interview and though I at first rejected it, I was forced to fall upon it when it turned out that I actually did need to find a new job. So it's like weird because it came up exactly when I was like focusing all my energy on positive thinking about the uni job ... I reckon that if I hadn't decided to look for a new, better job, this present oppostunity might not have come up, and I still would have been where I was last year, which was sort of a nice job but I never got to teach really and I spent most of my time on Facebook playing poker ... Now I'm actually working, which is like a bummer in one sense but I find myself working like crazy so I guess that means I'm enjoying it? I don't know whether I'm making any sense at all ... Maybe I should simplify that actually I would like to wish to win / inherit / marry a 100 billion dollars so I'll never have to work again, but instead what I get is actually a job where I actually make a difference I can see in the world that leaves me feeling good about myself. So maybe the Law Of Attraction is such that one cannot actually desire truly what it is against your nature and karma to be able to get and to be.

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posted March 18, 2010 08:08 AM         

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fatinkerbell, I think the kindergarten job is pretty darn special. You have a very profound influence on these young minds and I'm sure the future will reveal these results rather satisfactorily. Positive childhood memories and affirmations are pretty powerful life course tools for us humans.

Cancer/Scorpio - Born on the 26th (2 + 6)= 8, that is actually my birth channel. My life path is a 5. I use the Chaldean numerology system from Linda Goodman's "Star Signs" book. Numerology is secondary to Astrology as she explains in her book. There are probably links in this forum. I apologize, I'm still old school and learning this link stuff. All that water should make you more emotional, yes I can relate. My emotions were pretty controlled all my life, maybe my Virgo Asc, Taur Mn but eventually this internal stress manifested physically. I had to learn how to let the "poison" out and not hold back. For me, a Pisces, this now means feeling my emotions and expressing them immediately, not hiding them, being more honest...the truth shall set you free. (and yes, truth can hurt others but I can handle it better now) In other words, I'm not so evasive and wishy-washy, I'm overcoming the negative Piscean aspects.

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posted March 18, 2010 07:18 PM         

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Fatinkerbell,
Yeah, I can relate. I spent about two years trying to attract the perfect lifestyle for myself. It didn't manifest. It took some time to realize that what I wanted wasn't what I needed or what I was going to get, and I learned to be more humble when it came to asking for something, and that cherishing what you have is better than chasing a fantasy even wilder than Harry Potter
Mermaid,
I've read Star Signs, but had to finish it quickly and probably missed that part. Though I know what you're talking about. I'm a seven, which I find pretty dang exciting. Good job, I haven't heard of a Pisces that's able to balance their emotions That's pretty impressive.

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posted March 19, 2010 08:48 AM         

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Cancer/Scorpio, Thanks, but I can only attempt to balance. I still stumble and fall but I try to get up as fast as I can.
"Alice" is my all time favorite!

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posted March 19, 2010 09:30 PM         

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It's a lot better than just moping about it. Just the effort deserves applause.
I haven't really read "Alice", but I read that little excerpt from Sun Signs and really liked it. Kind of hauntingly sweet.

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posted March 20, 2010 04:17 PM         

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I think the law of attraction is harder to achieve... first you deal with the law of karma before you can out an action into reaction.... living out the law of karma through karmic incarnations means that most people are playing out reactions rather than actions.... and also because of our physical dimensional/consciousness alot of people only access or come to understand/master the law of karma... because karma to me is gravity....
Sesame how do you feel about this that karma equates to gravity and law of attraction equates to electromagnetism?

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posted April 15, 2010 11:08 PM         

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That very much makes sense Quinnie

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