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listenstotrees
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posted December 15, 2010 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the Neanderthal idea the most.

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posted December 15, 2010 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about the Neanderthal idea?

I read there is a difference between people of African descent and non-African descent regards to the Neanderthal genes. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703686304575228380902037988.html


The Neanderthal theory of autism, Asperger, and ADHD http://stephenrdevoy.blogspot.com/2010/05/neanderthal-theory-of-autism-asperger.html


DRD4 7R gene is said to be a spontaneous genetic mutation dated back between 10,000 and 40,000 years ago. It is said to be connected to novelty seeking and half of ADHD cases.

Spontaneous genetic mutations have been connected to many autistics which makes me doubt that all cases of autism are caused by vaccines. There are many autistic spectrum people that don't fit the vaccine-brain damage profile like Dr. Temple Grandin and Ronald D. Davis.


There is also haplogroups to consider too.
You can get DNA testing to find out what your haplogroup and subclade are They check certain mutations that you have or don't have that determine your haplogroup and subclade. I belong to haplogroup J and subclade J1c on the matrilineal line. I haven't got tested on the patrilineal line.

mitochondria haplogroup J was said to originate 45,000 years ago in Western Asia/Near East


All of us have genetic mutations of some kind.

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posted December 15, 2010 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was referring to the idea that Neanderthals were possibly RH negative.

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posted December 15, 2010 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I read the following from one of the Neanderthal links that I posted


"Rhesus Factor

RH negative blood is rare in native Americans, Asians, and Africans. However, it is found in 15% of Caucasians and possibly over 25% of the Basque population. If a new mother having a negative RH factor produces a fetus with RH positive blood, she will have potentially lethal autoimmune problems. This would have formed a barrier against back-breeding into the Neanderthal population. Over 50% of people with schizophrenia possess a negative RH blood factor, and there is a similar correlation with autism and Asperger’s Syndrome."


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posted December 15, 2010 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Nibiru Hybrid Races: Anunnaki Genetics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e01GlAawkOY&feature=related

Genetic differences in human races, racial differences as clues to Human orgins on Earth. Planet X Nibiru, anunnaki, alien aliens hybrid, Anunnaki Planet X Nibiru


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posted December 16, 2010 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No offense listenstotrees, but I am sure that if the origin of RH Neg blood has puzzled scientists for years, they would have out other mammals? They use them for everything else in the name of science...http://beforeitsnews.com/story/292/414/Where_Did_The_RH_Negative_Blood_Factor_Come_From.html
http://www.siriuslysirian.com/earth-teachings/bloodtypes/red_thread.htm
http://www.pufoin.com/pufoin_perspective/contact.php
http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/publish/article_12014.shtml
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=2146411686
http://rhnegative.zaphod.myfastforum.org/archive/rh-is-more-than-a-blood-type__o_t__t_27.html

There is a wealth of info on this subject out there, some is repeated, but not all...It especially has bearing on someone like myself with past life connections to Atlantis and Sumeria...such as my bf, and my children...we don't have the answers yet, but they're coming...


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posted December 16, 2010 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A lot of the information out there is theory, not science. Yet people write it as if it is fact.

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posted December 16, 2010 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Glaucus:
This would have formed a barrier against back-breeding into the Neanderthal population.

Is the author of this a geneticist who has studied neanderthal genes? If not then what gives them the authority to make such a statement?

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posted December 16, 2010 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by blonderiverkat:
No offense listenstotrees, but I am sure that if the origin of RH Neg blood has puzzled scientists for years, they would have out other mammals? They use them for everything else in the name of science

Maybe they have found some clues, but since most of what comes up on the internet under a google search for research into this is a big list of sites going on about a bunch of theories, it is difficult to tell.

While the rhesus factor is a group of genes specific to human beings, perhaps there is something a bit similar in another species of animals....different protein markers that produce a similar effect to some of the problems a rhesus negative mother may experience if carrying a rhesus positive child etc. It wouldn't be called rhesus positive or rhesus negative because animals have different protein markers...and there are so many different species. Maybe people (those publishing stuff on the net) have been too busy focusing on other areas to try and look into that in depth. Probably the only people qualified to answer are knowledgeable veterinary surgeons.

Maybe I seem like an idiot to some for asking that question...but at least I'm not channeling some unknown entity to get my answers and then writing it down as gospel to try to get people to follow it.

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posted December 16, 2010 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Found some more info.
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Hemolytic disease is a well-known condition in newborn foals, especially in Thoroughbreds and mules. Mares or jennies which have been sensitized by a previous pregnancy develop antibodies by fetal blood cells crossing the placental barrier. The iso-antibodies do not transcend the fetal barrier, but are present in colostrum. They will enter the bloodstream of the foal only after absorption of colostrum immunoglobulins, in the first days of life. Hence, hemolytic disaese will develop only after birth : first to 4th day in foal [2] and 3 to 7 days in newborn mules. Affected animals show lethargy, recumbency, tachycardia, and progressive icterus of eye and mouth mucosae, which rapidly leads to death.

The condition is also described in newborn pigs and other animals



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemolytic_disease_of_the_newborn

If this is true, then it would seem that we cannot say that RH negative blood give us any evidence for "reptilian DNA" or extra-terrestrial human cross-breeding* (I'm convinced this has happened, just not sure RH negative blood is evidence for it). In a way, as a romanticist, I would like to believe it is, that's why I have been researching this more over the past few days. As a rhesus negative person myself, interested in this kind of thing, I have read a bit about this in the past.

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posted December 16, 2010 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An interesting links on this.
http://www.tetonnm.com/pics/QLSSamplePages/1-893441-36-9.pdf


So it does appear in other animals....including dogs, cats, horses and pigs. I'll need to research it more to find out if it only occurs in animals that have been hybridized a great deal and crossbred with their own/ similar. It occurs often in mules.

Modern day homosapiens do appear to have evolved from more than one group of historic ancestor, but it could just have easily have been ones native to Earth as it could have been ones native to other planets.

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posted December 16, 2010 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just found this!!!!!!

Neanderthals might have made good blood donors

At least two of the extinct, ancient humans had type O blood, making them the "universal donor", according to a new genetic analysis of remains of 45,000 year old individuals.

"If you needed a blood transfusion, you could get it from these Neanderthals," says Carles Lalueza-Fox, a geneticist at Pompeu Fabra University in Barcelona, Spain, who led the study.

That's not to say all Neanderthals were type O – others may have also boasted genes for the A and B blood types, which encode enzymes that sprinkle red blood cells with two different sugar molecules, Lalueza-Fox says.

Type O blood is the result of a mutant form of the same enzymes. Humans – and Neanderthals – with two O genes have type O blood.
Environmental selection

Previous research indicated that this mutation occurred about a million years ago, probably in the hominid common ancestor of humans and Neanderthals. Natural selection may sometimes favour a specific blood type. Type O seems to protect against malaria, for example, but makes people more susceptible to bacteria that cause cholera and stomach ulcers.

Lalueza-Fox's team analysed DNA extracted from bone from two Neanderthal skeletons recovered from a cave in north-west Spain called El Sidron that has yielded hundreds of fossil fragments.

To guard against DNA contamination from human handlers, the researchers worked in protective suits and performed their work in two separate laboratories.

The experiments confirmed that the two Neanderthals had at least one copy of the inactive enzyme and probably two. However, Lalueza-Fox says there is a small possibility that the Neanderthals had one copy of the A or B gene, as well.
Shared lifestyle?

Discovering two Neanderthals with type O blood could suggest that this type was most prevalent, says John Hawks, a biological anthropologist at the University of Wisconsin in Madison.

"It is interesting that Neanderthals have a high O frequency, because the other group with a high O frequency today is native Americans," Hawks says. "They're not closely related, but they may have experienced similar environments to the extent that they might have been isolated from diseases that came from Africa and South Asia."

Determining whether type O blood coursed through the veins of other Neanderthals should sink or support this hypothesis. Researchers in Germany are currently decoding the complete genome of a Neanderthal discovered in Croatia, with a rough draft expected soon.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16386-neanderthals-might-have-made-good-b lood-donors.html

I'm part Neanderthal! Yay!

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posted December 16, 2010 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How the Neanderthals Became the Basques
http://www.aoi.com.au/bcw/neanderbasque.htm

European Neanderthals had ginger hair and freckles [ and Type O blood ]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2156528/posts

Fascinating Graham Hancock Interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkCnE8YdFP0
(Seems to be starting in the middle for some reason when I click on it, if this happens then just rewind it back to the beginning).


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posted December 16, 2010 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After reading that article in New Scientist again, I noticed they did not SPECIFY rhesus negative, therefore I wonder whether the author made an error when they put "universal donor"....all I can find on it is that they found blood type O in neanderthal remains. Only O negative can be a universal donor. So I am trying to find out more information to verify this, but no luck so far.

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posted December 16, 2010 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by listenstotrees:
Is the author of this a geneticist who has studied neanderthal genes? If not then what gives them the authority to make such a statement?

http://www.rdos.net/eng/asperger.htm

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posted December 16, 2010 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

With my O blood type, I am very likely to be part Neanderthal?

BTW..I am part Native American on my father's side.

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posted December 16, 2010 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You want to talk about Neanderthals Glac? lol I am a 6'1 female, my bf is 6'2, and my boys are 6'1 and 6'3...my children have alot of Native American in them as well...Mayan Ancestry actually...the gifted little starseeds that they are...I wonder why? lol


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posted December 16, 2010 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I am part Black African too, and so I am less likely to have Neanderthal genes too.

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posted December 17, 2010 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The breeding between neanderthals and humans took place at two different times, according to scientists, one was in Europe and one was in Israel. I can't remember the dates (I was reading up on this yesterday, but it was a long time ago, lol). They bred with caucasion people, not with black people, as far as they know. The neanderhals were fair skinned. Some possessed a gene reposinsible for red hair.

I am trying to find out if that article was accurate or not, because I haven't been able to verify it from any other sources.....that it was O rh negative....Only O rh negative is a "universal donor". Perhaps the author of the article got their facts a bit confused?

It would be fascinating to find out.

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posted December 17, 2010 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not sure why in many articles, that O+ is called the universal donor, because O-
cannot receive it.

* Type O- is called the universal donor because it can be given to anybody; it has no protein to cause clumps.
* Type AB+ is the universal receiver because the recipient has all of the proteins and so will not form clumps. http://health.howstuffworks.com/human-body/cells-tissues/question593.htm

Perhaps when not addressing the RH factor,
O+ is the universal donor for all positive blood types. And O+ is the most common type.

A blood group or blood type is based on the presence or absence of two proteins (A, B) on the surface of red blood cells. Because two proteins are involved, there are four possible combinations or blood types (ABO groups):

* Type A...Only the A protein is present.
* Type B...Only the B protein is present.
* Type AB...Both proteins are present.
* Type O...Neither protein is present ......(about 40 percent of the population).


In addition to the A and B proteins, there is another protein involved called the Rh factor (Rh for Rhesus monkey, where it was first identified). The Rh factor is either present (+) or absent (-). Therefore, blood types are described as the type and Rh factor.

So yes, minus the RH factor aspect,
O+ would be considered the universal donor.
However, because it cannot be given to anyone with an RH Negative blood type,
it is not in truth the universal donor.
However, it (O+) is the most common blood group/type, so I can see why it is called the universal donor, at least for RH positive blood types.

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posted December 17, 2010 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://the-red-thread.net/blood.html

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posted December 17, 2010 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm A-

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posted December 17, 2010 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting that the blood on the shroud of Turin is said to be AB-. AB+ is a universal recipient, O- is a universal donor. AB- is the rarest blood type.

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posted December 17, 2010 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well,
the S.O.T. is not that of Yeshua.
That is a myth.
It is of a crucified man however.
But in my opinion, is a red herring so to speak.
A set up, a diversion, a thing to support a lie.

More on blood: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK2264/

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quote:
Originally posted by iQ:

Annunaki were miners of gold. They cared two hoots about a Planet's Consciousness. They killed off the spirit in their own planet and thus needed some form of gold dust to stay alive for their 3600 pathetic years of utter uselessness.


HAHA I laughed out loud so hard when I read that. Kept a smile on my face for the rest of the night.

I you iQ, I really do.

I hope that's not to weird to say... Might have to edit that out later.

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