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katatonic
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posted July 10, 2010 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
interesting comments on why seemingly positive people have negative lives, and vice versa. larry crane is one of the inheritors of lester levenson's release technique (sedona method).
http://attendthisevent.com/?eventid=13552779

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posted July 14, 2010 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
We should have a detailed discussion on this.
I have about 4 release techniques to discuss:
1. Ho Oponopono/Forgiveness Techniques
2. Emotional Freedom Technique/Tapping Method
3. Oversoul/Superconsciousness Release Technque
4. Karmic Release

New Age Gurus do tend to neglect Causal Body Release, Astrology, Soul Group Contracts and Past Life Debts. And many confuse the subconscious Mind with Superconscious Mind, even though both keep recording every lifeline's information.

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posted July 14, 2010 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
yes there are many and it has been recognized for ages...in fact i think jesus' "forgiveness technique" was an early example...the lester levenson type is meant to be ohsosimple, though his "disciples" have made a fine art of dragging it out from what i can see.

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posted July 15, 2010 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
There is such a difference in vibes when I see Lester's video as opposed to the disciples, Mr. Crane especially is very unconvincing.
Lester can heal with his mere presence.
Crane and others HAVE to drop names like Warren Buffet etc.

The biggest problem with these abundance focused gurus is that they do not discuss the karmas of the causal body. We cannot magically get a million dollars in this lifeline unless we erase the karmic debts worth a million dollars stored in our Higher Self.

The success stories of those who made 10 or 15 million bucks, they were people who had erased all the karmic debts, created positive karmic deposits and just needed one last tip of releasing to allow the money. At the right astrological transit, these people come across an abundance "guru", and the "guru"'s ego unfortunately thinks his technique did it. He was just temporarily hired by the prize winner's Higher Self in giving them a key to their own locker. The people who are not internet savvy don't even meet up with abundance gurus, they are inspired by Higher Self to simply buy the winning lottery ticket.

Genuine Abundance from release techniques should focus more on peace of mind, health, relationships, knowledge and financial security, not financial greed. Talking of a Buffet or Gates or Bloodline Illuminati like Rockefeller does not help with this.

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posted July 19, 2010 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
the link posted was supposed to expire in 48 hours but is still working at least on my end. i don't particularly care for larry crane myself. i have heard some not-so-nice things about him from people who also went to see for themselves. he spends a fortune on marketting literature online and off, which i'm sure ups the price of his retreats.

i don't do retreats of this kind any more. my own experience, corroborated by dick sutphen's BATTLE FOR YOU MIND page online, is that there is group hypnosis and salesmanship going on as much as anything else...but the info is valuable to me for sure!

lester appears in every way to have been the real deal. so far two of the three "disciples" i've come across seem more to be wannabees making a living at stringing the method out as long as possible. the third, HALE DWOSKIN, who took up in sedona where lester left off, also seems to possibly be the real deal. not sure on that tho as he apparently is still working on his own "liberation" which lester repeatedly said was "a three month job AT MOST".

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posted July 20, 2010 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Have you tried Ho PonoPono? One of these days I want to do all 4 release techniques one after the other and see the changes.

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