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yulyana
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posted August 06, 2010 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yulyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes there could be a connection but in Lemuria i was able to stay longer, i explored the city.Oo my as i am writhing this i remember that lemurians look similar to arians only lemurians are like 9 feet taller and aryans are just 6-7 feet taller both have a body made of energy(white light).Ok i need to tell you this 3 years ago i was walking with a friend of mine and she wanted to buy something from the pharmacy and when we got inside i felt weird i started looking around and on the floor was some blood( i am not afraid of blood)as soon i i so that blood i felt even worse i got outside waiting for her.I was dizzy the whole world was spinning faster finally she got out and i told her that i was feeling seek my heart was racing i was suffocating ant to make the matters worse i couldn't see anything i was blind. I was still aware of the environment after that my sight was back but not as usual in colors i so every person around me white exactly like those beings i described(arians and lemurians).I thought i was going to dye that day.What i think of this experience is that maybe i had an OBE and i was in between half of me was still in my body(i was aware of buildings and everything around me) and half was on Arya hence people around me wore white like i so their souls not their bodies.This is weird for me even though i experienced those things right now after 3 years i see a connection .

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Nephthys
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posted August 06, 2010 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The experience you described is what happens to every human when we are about to faint, we "black out" so to speak.........

When we are unconscious our spirit leaves our body.......so when you were 1/2-way out of your body your "friends" were there watching you.......I have a feeling they are always with you........they could be your spirit guides for your incarnation on earth right now.

was the blood that you saw real or a vision? it sounds strange that there would be real blood on the floor of a pharmacy.

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yulyana
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posted August 06, 2010 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yulyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was real blood i don't want to think how it got there.The thing is i didn't faint i was able to walk.It might be something medical but i still don't know about the spirits i so around me they were so many, i don't think i am that important and an army of spirit guides i already have 2 guides and and another one that is way too in love with me to be just my guide

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Nephthys
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posted August 06, 2010 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What you described here:
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I was dizzy the whole world was spinning faster finally she got out and i told her that i was feeling seek my heart was racing i was suffocating ant to make the matters worse i couldn't see anything i was blind. I was still aware of the environment after that my sight was back but not as usual in colors i so every person around me white exactly like those beings i described(arians and lemurians)

Sounds like what I experienced when I had Hyperventilation Syndrome. I only had it once, but I experienced all of these:

Chemical changes can happen with overbreathing. Hyperventilation causes the carbon dioxide level in the blood to decrease. This lower level of carbon dioxide reduces blood flow to the brain, which may result in the following nervous system and emotional complaints:

Weakness


Fainting


Dizziness


Confusion


Agitation


A feeling of being outside yourself


Seeing images that aren't there


Feeling as if you can't breathe

Overbreathing can also cause the calcium levels to drop in your blood, which may result in the following nervous system complaints:

Numbness and tingling (usually in both arms or around the mouth)

Spasms or cramps of the hands and feet


Muscle twitching

(from emedecinehealth.com)

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buddy
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posted December 11, 2010 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for buddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Omg this is so freaking weird. Do you remember what their skin looked like?

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BanxManx
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posted December 11, 2010 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxManx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She is making this up or she is dreaming. There is no such thing as astral projection. People can't really leave their body and go through the universe. If I can't astral project then nobody here can. The idea that you can astral project was made popular by Robert Bruce and he has raked in millions of dollars from selling this fake concept.

Think about it. No one can disprove you and tell you that you aren't astral projecting and you can make up practically anything you want because anything can exist in the universe. There is no way that you can prove or disprove astral projection so it is the perfect money making and power tool. I floated out of my body and went to planet Narfir where these guys with dragon heads asked me why I am here. Notice that the people who astral project never give you any solid information that could easily be obtained in astral. Don't be dumb. Just think about it for a minute. If these people were really astral projecting, don't you think that they could get solid answers to why there are so many problems in the world and solve them? "They sent energy to my head and told me what I needed to do in 2012". But notice how she conveniently doesn't tell you what she has to do in 2012. She will "remember it when the time is right". You can't tell people that you can travel the universe and not come back and able to answer any mystery to life, wait, yes you can because the gullible people who believe these stories never question it. Just like religionists who blindly follow a belief, the new agers believe in any ridiculous story that someone tells them. Also notice that everyone who astral travels has a different story about what is going on in the universe. No one ever says the same thing. Come on people, think.

"Let me know if you want to be "bored" with the story of how i met my guardian spirit that now is completely in love with me
Iuliana"

Wait a minute. Read that again. Yes. She is saying that her guardian spirit actually fell in love with her. Do you people seriously think about what people tell you? Her GUARDIAN SPIRIT, is completely and madly in love with her. Her...guardian spirit....is in love with her...I mean, he wasn't in love with her when he took on the mission to be her guardian spirit, he gradually over time, fell in love with her. I mean, you would think that her guardian spirit would have some decency. Wow. Really.

Also, don't you think that someone who is chosen "to be one of the few in the year 2012", would be a little more articulate? This post may seem harsh but if someone doesn't question these outlandish stories then no progress will ever be made.

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listenstotrees
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posted December 11, 2010 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BanxManx:
She is making this up or she is dreaming. There is no such thing as astral projection. People can't really leave their body and go through the universe. If I can't astral project then nobody here can. The idea that you can astral project was made popular by Robert Bruce and he has raked in millions of dollars from selling this fake concept.

You can neither prove it nor disprove it. To say that no-one can astral travel because you can't is hardly any scientific evidence for disproving it.
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Wait a minute. Read that again. Yes. She is saying that her guardian spirit actually fell in love with her. Do you people seriously think about what people tell you? Her GUARDIAN SPIRIT, is completely and madly in love with her. Her...guardian spirit....is in love with her...I mean, he wasn't in love with her when he took on the mission to be her guardian spirit, he gradually over time, fell in love with her. I mean, you would think that her guardian spirit would have some decency. Wow. Really.

Again, you can neither prove nor disprove. Wouldn't it be wiser to stay open minded, neither believing nor disbelieving? There are limitless ways of looking at things, countless explanations. Who knows. The original poster knows what she feels, and is the only one who can really judge if it is real or not- and learn to distinguish between what is imaginary and what is true intuition. Few people really knows how to do that well. Most of us are learning, discovering things that are still very new. There has been so much illusion in the world, confusion to overcome. To say astral traveling is not real just because it hasn't happened to you...is not a broadminded approach.
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Also, don't you think that someone who is chosen "to be one of the few in the year 2012", would be a little more articulate? This post may seem harsh but if someone doesn't question these outlandish stories then no progress will ever be made.

I don't think being articulate is that important. Language is not the only gift/ attribute of a person or a creature. Just one of them. There are many other abilities that are just as important as being articulate. Instead of seeing such things as separate or opposing, we should see how everything fits together complimentary, symbiotic.


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posted December 11, 2010 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cancer/Scorpio729     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BanxManx:
If I can't astral project then nobody here can.

Going by your logic that there is no proof for this story, what proof do you have that you're the only one spiritually advanced enough to determine that astral projection isn't real?

Ancient stories of astral projection:

quote:
The Bible
A common belief is that the subtle body is attached to the physical body by means of a psychic silver cord. The final chapter of the Biblical Book of Ecclesiastes is often cited in this respect:

"before the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be shattered at the fountain, or the wheel be broken at the cistern"
Paul's second letter to the Corinthians (Chapter 12, verse 2) is more generally agreed to refer to the astral planes:

"I know a man in Christ, fourteen years ago, (whether in the body I know not, or out of the body I know not, God knows) such a one caught up to the third heaven..."'
This statement gave rise to the Visio Pauli, a tract that offers a vision of heaven and hell, a forerunner of visions attributed to Adomnan and Tnugdalus as well as of Dante's Divine Comedy.

Ancient Egypt
Similar concepts of "soul" travel appear in various other religious traditions, for example ancient Egyptian teachings present the soul as having the ability to hover outside the physical body in the ka, or subtle body.

China
Taoist alchemical practice involves creation of an energy body by breathing meditations, drawing energy into a 'pearl' that is then "circulated".[22] "Xiangzi ... with a drum as his pillow fell fast asleep, snoring and motionless. His primordial spirit, however, went straight into the banquet room and said, "My lords, here I am again." ... When Tuizhi walked ... with the officials to take a look, there really was a Daoist sleeping on the ground and snoring like thunder. Yet inside, in the side room, there was another Daoist beating a fisher drum and singing Daoist songs. The officials all said, “Although there are two different people, their faces and clothes are exactly alike. Clearly he is a divine immortal who can divide his body and appear in several places at once. ..." ... At that moment, the Daoist in the side room came walking out, and the Daoist sleeping on the ground woke up. The two merged into one."

India
The Theosophists also took note of similar ideas (Lin'ga S'ari-ra) found in ancient Hindu scriptures such as the YogaVashishta-Maharamayana of Valmiki. Modern Indians who have offered experiences of astral projection include Paramahansa Yogananda and Osho (Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh).

Japan

In Japanese mythology, an ikiryô (also read shôryô, seirei, or ikisudama) is a manifestation of the soul of a living person separately from their body. Traditionally, if someone holds a sufficient grudge against another person, it is believed that a part or the whole of their soul can temporarily leave their body and appear before the target of their hate in order to curse or otherwise harm them, similar to an evil eye. Souls are also believed to leave a living body when the body is extremely sick or comatose; such ikiryô are not malevolent.

Inuit
In some Inuit groups people with special capabilities are said to travel to (mythological) remote places, and report their experiences and things important to their fellows or the entire community; how to stop bad luck in hunting, cure a sick person etc., things unavailable to people with normal capabilities.

Amazon
The yaskomo of the Waiwai is believed to be able to perform a "soul flight" that can serve several functions such as healing, flying to the sky to consult cosmological beings (the moon or the brother of the moon) to get a name for a new-born baby, lying to the cave of peccaries' mountains to ask the father of peccaries for abundance of game or flying deep down in a river to get the help of other beings.


Though it's true that these stories are very dogmatic, the basic message they give about astral projection is the same. And it's not like astral projection is a fun thing to do either, there are many many stories of being attacked while outside of the body. The ones selling fake stories are not the ones informing other of astral projection, but the ones telling everyone that astral projection is completely safe for you.

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posted December 11, 2010 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cancer/Scorpio729     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LEXX
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posted December 11, 2010 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yulyana
If you are still around I have a few questions.
The firsts being;

How do you look in these events?
Do you see yourself and in what way?
Like watching a movie, seeing yourself?

Has anything told you that you are special and or chosen?

Did you take all said at face value/ie;
did you totally trust "them" ?


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yulyana
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posted December 11, 2010 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yulyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First of all hi to everyone!
To answer your first two questions LEXX, i don't see myself like watching a movie, i see just like i see with my eyes.
I trust them, i don't know why, my intuition tells me to trust them it's something you can't explain like asking someone why does he believe in God. Everyone has his beliefs.
i can't prove to someone that what i do is real or not, because that person's beliefs might be different from mine so what is "real" to me to others is just some fantasy waste of time.
To ask Buddy's question i remember how they looked, they are humanoid made of energy ( white light) it's like looking into the sunlight.

I just wanted to post my experience so if what i wrote seems to you a fantasy then for you it is a fantasy, for me is just what i believe in, what I know is real.

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posted December 11, 2010 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for replying!

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mochai
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posted December 14, 2010 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Banx reminds me so much of my Leo ex lol.. only more skeptical. He's going to have a hard kundalini awakening.. Kundalini makes me hate my leo ascendant.

I hate to say it but Robert Monroe preceded Robert Bruce in Astral Projection books. What about out of body experiences or near death experiences where the person could tell a scientist or a hospital doctor something they couldn't have seen/known otherwise?

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BanxManx
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posted December 15, 2010 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxManx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mochai:
Banx reminds me so much of my Leo ex lol.. only more skeptical. He's going to have a hard kundalini awakening.. Kundalini makes me hate my leo ascendant.

I hate to say it but Robert Monroe preceded Robert Bruce in Astral Projection books. What about out of body experiences or near death experiences where the person could tell a scientist or a hospital doctor something they couldn't have seen/known otherwise?


Whoa. Who's gonna have a hard Kundalini awakening, me or your ex?

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mochai
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posted December 15, 2010 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't talk to my ex much anymore. I love him but I couldn't get into all the posturing that he did and I think I bruised his ego too much. I wouldn't be surprised if he got kundalini given his spirituality/meditation. I don't know maybe I'm wrong. Kundalini is hard for anyone.

Btw, I also got another grounding visualization that's highly recommended and may work better. The one that i've been using is a large square connected to my root chakra/aura going to the center of the earth with four anchors at the corners. Aparently the earth element is square in symbology and when I tried to ground with circles/triangles it didn't work as well. http://www.fire-serpent.com/1grnd.html

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