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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 5795 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 22, 2010 12:57 PM
i received this newsletter today from david's site. this man has been talking about how we create our reality for well over 20 years now. with that in mind...David Icke Newsletter Preview FAKING IT … … OR FRAUDS I HAVE KNOWN The David Icke Newsletter on Sunday
The two people in my life who told me most often how much they loved and supported me, and how vital it was for humanity that my work succeeded, turned out to be the very two people who have caused the most mayhem and stress in my life and been most destructive to my health, work and finances ... ... The first one stole a huge amount of money accumulated over many years by hiding the full extent of book sales and stealing the income from those he did not account for. Some of this money was spent on 'spiritual counselling' by some New Age 'guru'. Well, at least he realised he needed it. He also covertly put the rights to my books in North America in his own name and I went three years without earning a penny from any of my books and DVDs worldwide because of the horrendous cost of taking him to the US Federal Court to win back rights to my own books. Meanwhile, amid all this, I was still continuing with my work of exposing the global conspiracy in the face of this crippling financial and emotional onslaught. When you put together what he stole (not even including my legal costs) and add that to what the second one is now demanding, it means, if the second one is anything like successful, that the two of them will have taken the vast, vast majority of what I have earned in the last eleven years from books, DVDs and talks, etc, and I will be left with a fraction of what my efforts have produced. This for two people who have not contributed a single word of research or text in any book, DVD or talk. Oh, yes, and, on top of all that, I will be paying a substantial monthly income to the second one until I am closing in on 70, meaning that I will be working to keep this person for pretty much the rest of my life. Getting a job and earning their own living is a foreign language to both of them. That is what other people have to do, not them. Ain't it great when you have people supporting your work like this and saying how vital it is for human freedom? I mean, imagine what it would be like without their support. I don't know how I would cope. i have to wonder what this says about icke...and why he would play victim when it suits him...? any thoughts?
a lot of his info is spot on, as i have said many times. a lot is twisted by david's self-misleading, i think... IP: Logged |
puppet04 Knowflake Posts: 129 From: usa Registered: Aug 2010
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posted August 22, 2010 06:54 PM
he is the victim in this scenario unfornately was taken advantage of.. if he doesn't express his feelings they will just manifest in different ways.. better to let them out and resolve what happened.. then go back to postive thinking.. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 5795 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 22, 2010 08:11 PM
to me positive thinking is not the same as creating your reality. if you are creating your reality why would you create people cheating you? it indicates a belief in "chance" and victimization that taking responsibility for your life does not include. and there's a difference between expressing your feelings and broadcasting them worldwide to a) generate sympathy or b) point the finger at someone... \ i don't consider even positive thinking entails PRETENDING bad things don't happen. but if you are the creator of your life and you create something like this how do you blame the other guy?i was more interested in the fact that he felt the need to publish this...THAT is like saying he did not create it. IP: Logged |
listenstotrees Knowflake Posts: 1642 From: Rivendell Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 23, 2010 04:06 AM
I lost a certain amount of respect for David Icke when his webmaster started spying on people's private messages then started impulsively banning anyone who questioned his actions, without even attempting to discuss things to resolve them. David Icke was informed about this when it happened, but to my knowledge did absolutely nothing about it and still uses the same webmaster. How can I respect someone who's forum is run in such a "big brother" way that he likes to talk so passionately against? The webmaster even used text book tactics to defend his actions, claiming an attack on the forum from an "outside source" to get people on his side...just as corrupt dictators have done who's names would not take any effort to bring to mind.I still do admire some of David's work though, although I am steering away from this kind of stuff for a while as I sometimes find myself getting overwhelmed by the negativity, plus I don't feel there is enough evidence we know the full picture of how deep the rabbit hole really is, and what rests at the core. Fascinating to research and think about though. Maybe he is just too naive and trusting of people near him sometimes. IP: Logged |
Chahldean Knowflake Posts: 33 From: Everywhere I've Been Registered: Jun 2009
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posted August 23, 2010 10:23 AM
Halo Inquiring MInds Like Icke himself and it seems, many Others hear, who have opened their I's I too have been following Conspiracies for 30 years upon my departure from parochial school. Reading an enormous amount of material from Sitchin to Wilcox to Icke and many others; I am often fascinated that such individuals who have dedicated an enormous amount of their Lives and Time to their Theories and Beliefs, whilst most of us only ponder and wander, pray and preach, the same Questions over and over without such a Resolution In a Time where information is becoming the New Religion, those who Stand A Lone will endure such hype,ridicule and scrutiny for their preposterous Thoughts that often become Reality many Moons later... reMember Galileo? Tesla? Reich? Rife? On the contrary, One cannot Believe everything One hears, or reads for that matter, as the Whirled is full of trickery and Wikipedia. To case in point, I believe Icke is/was onto something. I believe he has found his Path of illuminator in a Realm that has been veiled in mystery and secrecy. The questions he poses and connections he has made has certainly filled in many pieces of the puzzle that religion leaves up to "faith". With All of us shrugging in ignorance. For that, I am thankful and enlightened to "seek the Truth" on my own on some small paths he has put forth.... ~HOWEVER~ As far as I can tell,(and I am no Expert) Icke is Human. He, like most of Us, is in search of the "Truth." He is fallible and certainly has all the same issues we have: (fill in the blanks hear) ______,_______,_______, trust, guilt, blame, finance,fear, love and ego. Perhaps in his delving into the "Otherworld" of the unforseen, he has become a part of what he is afraid of, and the paranoia of such Beliefs is turning on him and he is suffering for/from his Beliefs. It happens to All Great Thinkers, Prophets, Sages and Revolutionaries. One way or the Other. Like Neo in the Matrix.... It is all ways 2 steps forward, 1 step backward in this Quest of "Seek the Truth" and always has been. Always Will Be. My thoughts are to standUnder his trials and learn from them, not to add to the judgement he and others like him, have eternally endured; perpetually delaying our Evolutionary process. OH the irony. No man is an I Land. No man is an exception to the daily plights of Human trials and tribulations. We must All move forward.
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 5795 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 23, 2010 11:43 AM
i hear you chahldean however if i put myself in icke's shoes and preached what he preaches i would NOT then follow that with painting myself as a victim. i am sure i would have times when i felt someone had screwed me over, as he obviously does, but i would feel compelled by the stance i took and the p.o.v. that i preached to do some inner searching before "exposing" people i felt betrayed by. in fact i do this as much as possible in my real life.once again this is what i am pointing out. as i said much of his info is spot on but i think there is a deep paranoia/anger there which bends some of his conclusions to something more sinister than may actually be there. the only reason i brought this up is that i think it is reason to take his work with a grain of salt. and i agree with LTT that a paranoid/controlling webmaster is another clue that something is amiss in the general attitude at work there. for a start i think the WAY he talks about reptilians is very racist in a sense. i suspect we cannot talk about an alien race in general terms any more than we can the black, iranian, chinese races...but the impression he gives is that all reptilians are control freaks without compassion. whereas i believe in fact we (humans) are ALL reptilians to one degree or another. IP: Logged |
listenstotrees Knowflake Posts: 1642 From: Rivendell Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 23, 2010 05:30 PM
Until we can start treating all our various earth creatures with respect....is there much hope that we can get along with our cosmic bros and sisters from other planets and galaxies?I sometimes wonder if the Bible (and other religions connected) is responsible for our attitude toward other creatures. It pretty much says animals were only put on earth for our convenience, to use for our every whim or desire. (And is scripture that which reflects (current attitudes/ states of consciousness) or projects/ influences?). Or both? Are our religious educational systems, so deeply ingrained in our culture (even if we now consider ourselves no longer religious)...responsible for a huge part of our society's behavior? What kind of society does an educational system that depicts an angry, vengeful "god" who was all loving yet is ever ready to punish or slaughter people en masse/ send them to hell......what kind of society would such a teaching create? LTT to the Enterprise- beam us out of here! (Interestingly the people in Star Trek function in a cashless society). Sorry to ramble but someone mention racism toward the reptilians and it inspired my pondering. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 5795 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 24, 2010 10:39 AM
Perhaps in his delving into the "Otherworld" of the unforseen, he has become a part of what he is afraid of, and the paranoia of such Beliefs is turning on him and he is suffering for/from his Beliefsthis makes sense to me, yes, i often think that he is being used to spread disinfo and paranoia though his intentions are true enough. but if you know where he started, it is easy to see a streak of anger running thru the man and his work...he is not racist in the normal sense, but his resentment of the establishment PRECEDED his investigative years... i agree LTT, it would be so nice if the deus ex machina would just arrive and get us out of here, however i think the rescue team is probably within rather than without! but mainly i guess i expect those who appoint themselves whistleblowers to conduct themselves according to their own professed standards. human or not, we can monitor our behaviour and not perpetuate what we are protesting....no? IP: Logged |
listenstotrees Knowflake Posts: 1642 From: Rivendell Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2010 04:43 PM
Sheds some more light on his perspective: (just a few minutes into it as I post this). http://www.blip.tv/file/4017434 IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 5795 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2010 05:48 PM
thanks, em!IP: Logged |
listenstotrees Knowflake Posts: 1642 From: Rivendell Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 26, 2010 07:19 AM
I accidentally knocked a button on my keyboard and didn't get to hear the rest of it as I couldn't fast forward it when restarted. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 5795 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 04, 2010 06:27 PM
okay, must give credit back to icke for the following recap on the original whine... David Icke Newsletter Preview
THE SLOW ONE NOW WILL LATER BE FAST … ... THE FIRST ONE NOW WILL LATER BE LAST (And no need for the 'times' to change, because it was always so) The David Icke Newsletter goes out on Sunday
Put simply: what you give out you get back - often with interest - and so the 'winners' who 'win' by hurting, exploiting and parasiting off others ('Oh, haven't they done well?') are the biggest losers of all. They are just too greedy and ignorant to see it. The consequences of such behaviour, for this life and those to come, will return to give them what they gave out - and more. Only that way can those consumed by greed, self and vindictiveness see that it's not the way to treat your fellow expressions of the Infinite. So those who have stolen the money from Credo Mutwa's books and stolen the Necklace of the Mysteries think they have got away with it. But they are just a ticking clock until the consequences come flying back. It's the same with the man who stole years of income from my books - he went to jail for not paying tax on what he stole! Talk about instant karma. The book publishing company that helped him to fleece me went bankrupt and the big New York legal firm that charged me far more than necessary to deal with the case went into liquidation. And it is the same with the single person with no dependents who is currently seeking to clean me out through the courts and, on top of that, demanding nearly $5,000 a month from me in unearned income with monthly payments continuing until I am nearly 70. No, I'm really not kidding. This person is trying to 'win' - 'if you want a war you can have one (I don't)' - but by even thinking of such demands, never mind employing a barrister to secure them, this person has already lost in a way they don't even begin to understand. And those pathetic and ignorant people who are urging this person on to exploit and, in effect, destroy my work, have also already lost just as comprehensively. As Martin Luther King said: 'The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice'. And at this time of great energetic change, the end of a vibrational age, that arc is becoming shorter by the hour. You cannot hide from cause and effect, you can only kid yourself you can, or convince yourself that when you cheat or exploit someone it is either justified, only what you deserve, or 'their own fault'. No matter, tick, tick, tick, karma's a comin'. Enjoy the necklace, chaps. this particular one especially synchronizes for me because "the times they are a-changing" has been running through my head for at least the last week!
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Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 710 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 05, 2010 06:35 AM
I find it difficult to process messages from David Icke. Although I'm a discerning fan I have my issues with his approach. He at times seems programmed himself... it's his eyes, like there's either anger or indifference in there. I keep an open mind, I understand he has experienced huge amounts of ridicule in his life, and while that may shed a little light on how he delivers his message, I can't help but think that it also shapes his information somewhat because as you've said... he is only human (we hope!) what's the saying... Be ye as wise as a serpent, and as gentle as a dove... I certainly don't get that from Icke... however I have much, much respect for him.IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 5795 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 05, 2010 02:31 PM
i get you quinnie. i believe it is anger, i have seen him in the old days and he has plenty of it...i discount the shapeshifting reptile stuff pretty completely though i often think the people he talks about might as well be lizards for all the compassion they exhibit...also the new schtick about the prison planet and holographic moon comes straight from anna hayes/ashayana dean as far as i know, and i consider HER message to be seriously tampered with!! but as said before, often his info after being thoroughly laughed at turns up in the official news - often many years later...so i do like to keep an ear open to him. and i am glad he followed up the opening post's complaint with a more balanced view... IP: Logged |
Cancer/Scorpio729 Knowflake Posts: 293 From: 6,000 feet above sea level Registered: Feb 2010
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posted September 05, 2010 09:19 PM
Who is David Icke?This guy? IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 5795 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 06, 2010 05:50 PM
great pic!! lmao...i often think david (born in the year of the DRAGON no less) is very reptilian himself...and funnily another author, stuart wilde, has talked at length about the black dot that appears between the eyes of "possessed" public figures when they speak...ever notice the crease at the top of david's nose, which mostly looks black on camera these days?just don't know what to make of it, really, though i do believe a lot of his info is on the mark all the same!! IP: Logged |
Cancer/Scorpio729 Knowflake Posts: 293 From: 6,000 feet above sea level Registered: Feb 2010
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posted September 06, 2010 06:50 PM
Yeah, I see it. I even see a little circle on top of the crease, which combined looks pretty creepy on someone's face. Though the entire reptilian effect is creepy already.IP: Logged |
iQ Knowflake Posts: 2393 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 20, 2010 05:13 AM
Astrologically, David Icke does seem to have substantial Reptilian DNA but he is not of the elite category. KARMA works unemotionally. Though he was doing a great job in exposing the global conspiracies, he was also hating all Reptilian Elites, hating their wealth. Unknowingly, hating even the good reptilians. In short, he was "short circuiting" his own abundance. People who hate and complain, and get bitter, they tend to minimize their wealth even if they earn big. He could have achieved much more by Gandhian Activism. With an approach of "It does not matter whether you are Reptilian or not, come to the table and work out justice for the innocents". Money was invented by Reptilians, by hating this component of our DNA [all humanity on Earth has some Reptilian DNA], we cannot hold on to wealth.David will have a great life in the next dimension no doubt, but here to get rich, he has to change. Why are the Reptilian Elite wealthy? Rule Number One: They never complain and they never blame. They just keep working on getting rich. That's it. Of course, they sacrifice love. Their choice. IP: Logged |
pire Knowflake Posts: 1599 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 04, 2010 09:35 PM
reptilians?what reptilians? in fact I am greatful he expresses himself openly, even if sometimes he's off the mark cause let's face it, he can not be always right, considering the mysteries is talking about. if there is such a thing as one truth? in the following interview he mentions the ridicule that faced in his career. I respect the fact that he managed to live it and talks about it, when so many of us would betray ourselves to not experience what he did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4UyEUldOLQ I don't know all his stuff, I am just reading the biggest secret now, and I find it fascinating. I don't know any of his other stuff yet, but I never thought that he was trying to appear as a master, or a preacher. I see him as a researcher who tries to shed some lights even if it brings ridicule. he seems to want the truth. and so his newsletter complaining to have been stolen is coherent, from my point of view, with the truth seeker. In fact, I am grateful for his imperfections. it reminds me he's a human, he's faillible, like we are. may be he's victim of other who give a prophetic nature to his words. even if he not looking for it. IP: Logged |
Cancer/Scorpio729 Knowflake Posts: 293 From: 6,000 feet above sea level Registered: Feb 2010
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posted December 05, 2010 01:37 PM
Nice pic pire, lmfao IP: Logged |
listenstotrees Knowflake Posts: 1642 From: Rivendell Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 05, 2010 01:51 PM
Err....just curious...how can you tell if "astrologically" someone has reptilian DNA?Icke said in a recent interview that reptilian shape-shifting was observable not because the people were physically reptilian but because of possession from inter-dimensional beings. Spirit beings can take any form they like, so with that in mind, in my opinion it seems feesable that some may take a reptilian form. (I'm sure in this vast universe physical reptilians are likely to exist though, I'm just not sure how many of them have been on this planet...although many ancient artworks have beings in that look reptilian. Just not sure how far their story connects to the modern world). I'll keep an open mind. IP: Logged | |