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LEXX Moderator Posts: 2458 From: Still out looking for Schr�dinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 24, 2010 10:00 PM
quote: Hot-Blooded Reptiles Sea-dwelling reptiles hundreds of millions of years ago were warmblooded, according to a new study led by Lyon University. It’s the clearest sign that some ancient reptiles, unlike modern ones, had a metabolism similar to that of mammals. Oxygen atoms in fossil teeth show plesiosaurs and ichthyosaurs (ten-foot-long Stenopterygius quadriscissus) had internal temperatures of 95 to 102 degrees Fahrenheit, even in chilly water. Read more: ]http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Wild-Things-Life-as- We-Know-It-201009.html#ixzz0xZw0c4I6
Alien conspiracies keep telling folks that reptilian=bad. Well we are the reptilians. And science is now discovering that (in addition to us having the Reptilian Complex brain}...that some ancient reptiles were warm blooded live bearers just like us and other mammals. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stenopterygius ------------------ Everyone is a teacher... Everyone is a student... Learning is eternal. ~Everyone is gifted. Some simply open the package sooner~ ~To love oneself is the beginning of a lifelong romance.~Oscar Wilde ~Life might not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here, we might as well dance!~ }><}}(*>♥<*){{><} IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 4890 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2010 11:44 AM
i've been thinking along similar lines lately, especially thinking how racist, really, we are when we think of aliens of any kind. in fact many people probably think all aliens are alike even today...and others think all reptilians are alike, all pleiadians, etc...its probably time we recognized that that probably isn't so anymore than all humans are alike...except in the most obvious ways.IP: Logged |
Nephthys Moderator Posts: 641 From: California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2010 12:03 PM
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LEXX Moderator Posts: 2458 From: Still out looking for Schr�dinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2010 12:11 PM
Were Dinosaurs Endotherms or Ectotherms? IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 2458 From: Still out looking for Schr�dinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2010 12:13 PM
The Strange Lives of Polar DinosaursIP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 2458 From: Still out looking for Schr�dinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2010 12:16 PM
Were Dinosaurs warm blooded? Or Were they cold blooded?IP: Logged |
StarrofVenusGirl Knowflake Posts: 759 From: Down the Rabbit Hole Registered: Jun 2009
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posted August 25, 2010 12:36 PM
Hey LEXX I agree, but I think it's cultural too. Some say that man has a primordial fear of reptiles but I disagree. For example, many modern (as opposed to ancient) Western cultures are afraid of snakes or believe that they are evil but in other places in the world they are sacred. They were sacred to the ancients as well. I'm not afraid of them at all. Several species of snakes also give birth to live young. ------------------ My Chart IP: Logged |
listenstotrees Knowflake Posts: 1460 From: the 5th dimension Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2010 12:48 PM
Beautiful creature in the picture. IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 2458 From: Still out looking for Schr�dinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2010 12:50 PM
StarrofVenusGirl I agree! And it makes more sense for humans to have a primordial fear of mammals such as cave bears and lions who would attack and devour them, rather than snakes, with the exceptions being poisonous snakes and vipers, and of course crocodiles, and certain poisonous creatures like the Gila Monster. However they are not evil, it is simply their natural being. Even alligators are usually gentle animals. (I know this from personal experience) But in general snakes are lovely good creatures!IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 2458 From: Still out looking for Schr�dinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2010 12:54 PM
listenstotrees I agree, a very beautiful creature!IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 2458 From: Still out looking for Schr�dinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2010 12:57 PM
katatonic True!IP: Logged |
StarrofVenusGirl Knowflake Posts: 759 From: Down the Rabbit Hole Registered: Jun 2009
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posted August 25, 2010 01:34 PM
Yes, and they are quite soft to the touch. Most people think reptilian skin is slimy but it is often smooth as silk with a lovely texture (unless rubbed against the grain of course!). I have opened a lot of people's eyes about snakes in the past, perhaps I was a priestess of Apollo in a past life. In ancient Greece, snakes were associated with prophecy and the divine. IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 2458 From: Still out looking for Schr�dinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2010 04:23 PM
I have handled and loved many reptiles, and some were my loved pets too. Yes, they are soooo silky and satiny smooth and not slimy at all. And most are so gentle and will "snuggle" you for warmth. Not sure where folks get slimy from. Even amphibians are not slimy. Fish are because they have literally, a protective slime coating over their scales.
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StarrofVenusGirl Knowflake Posts: 759 From: Down the Rabbit Hole Registered: Jun 2009
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posted August 25, 2010 07:12 PM
I have a pet fish. I never thought I would have a fish, I like pets I can hold and touch but he is SO interactive! He has quite a little personality, my friends and family think he is the most wonderful goldfish ever. He is the sole survivor of the 3 fish I bought when I moved, the other 2 died within a week or so. He's going on 6 months and keeps growing and growing...soon I'll have to get him a bigger tank.There's definitely room for improvement in my fishkeeping skills, but he was my least favorite of the 3 and now he's my little baby. Funny how that works IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 2458 From: Still out looking for Schr�dinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2010 07:26 PM
I have had smart fish like that! You really can train them to beg and follow your finger and other tricks! Sadly most rarely made it to a year old, but one fellow lived for 10 years! And yes! Each one has its own personality!
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Cancer/Scorpio729 Knowflake Posts: 146 From: 6,000 feet above sea level Registered: Feb 2010
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posted August 25, 2010 08:21 PM
Since we're on this topic, I've wondered for a while: I know someone with a completely irrational lizard phobia. It's hard to imagine a soul-scarring situation with a lizard, they usually scuttle away if you come too close. So why would that be?IP: Logged |
Cancer/Scorpio729 Knowflake Posts: 146 From: 6,000 feet above sea level Registered: Feb 2010
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posted August 25, 2010 08:26 PM
Fishies are very cute, they make me smile IP: Logged |
SilverStone Moderator Posts: 414 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2010 08:42 PM
LEXX, IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 2458 From: Still out looking for Schr�dinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2010 09:36 PM
katatonic: quote: i've been thinking along similar lines lately, especially thinking how racist, really, we are when we think of aliens of any kind. in fact many people probably think all aliens are alike even today...and others think all reptilians are alike, all pleiadians, etc...its probably time we recognized that that probably isn't so anymore than all humans are alike...except in the most obvious ways.
I agree! So much science friction has added unfortunately to bad aliens are not human like, and good aliens are....like blond or angelic like. Beautiful or perceived as beautiful does not automatically =good, nor does that perceived as inhuman or ugly automatically=evil/bad. Warnings of being deceived by bedazzling and glamouring has been the stuff of myth, legend,and religion back into antiquity and back even to primeval times. Yet humans still persist too often in buying into the illusion that beauty and light bright, automatically=good or benevolent. A wonderful movie all should see is: Enemy Mine. It shows how a human man and a Drac start out with the man vehemently hating all Dracs with a blood thirsty bigoted vengeance... but then wow! A really MUST see movie! Absolutely enlightening! Link, click here! Enemy Mine
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LEXX Moderator Posts: 2458 From: Still out looking for Schr�dinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2010 09:41 PM
Trailer...for Enemy Mine...beautiful!IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 2458 From: Still out looking for Schr�dinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2010 10:20 PM
Cancer/Scorpio729..... quote: I've wondered for a while: I know someone with a completely irrational lizard phobia. It's hard to imagine a soul-scarring situation with a lizard, they usually scuttle away if you come too close. So why would that be?
It really does not make sense does it? I mean, I have an aversion to spiders, but that is because I have become quite ill from spider bites. But fear them? No...they serve a valuable service...but I am not fond of them biting me. We have beautiful blue Skinks around here but they are extremely fast and shy. I have seen only 4 in the wild in my 55 years to date. A baby one IP: Logged |
SunChild Moderator Posts: 1111 From: Melbourne. Victoria. Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2010 11:40 PM
Lexx, I just saw Enemy Mine just recently for the first time, I loved it! IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 2458 From: Still out looking for Schr�dinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2010 11:47 PM
I cry every time I see it.....which is like 20 times or more! The last scene on the Drac home world always gets me! IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 4890 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 26, 2010 11:29 AM
thanks for the movie tip! i agree that peoples' aversions seem to have nor rhyme or reason! i have to admit to squashing a few bugs and spiders over my lifetime, but not many...a mosquito who's landed on me won't live long, lol, but i generally capture and set free spiders and other of our small cohabitants ...my daughter inherited an irrational fear of bugs and spiders from my mother in law, who used to pitch a fit if a fly crossed her path. to give her (daughter) a little credit she is unusually sensitive to bug bites...i always knew there were fleas in the house because SHE would get bitten, and once a no-see-um bit her on the arm and it swelled up so much she couldn't even bend her elbow!! but apart from the irritation of being bitten i don't understand the pathological reaction some people have to insects. lizards are just plain cool, though salamanders and newts have some sort of poisonous sweat-type stuff that protects them from predators...and as a recent outbreak of bubonic plague has shown fleas can carry all manner of nasty diseases... IP: Logged |
GypseeWind Moderator Posts: 3880 From: Dayton,Ohio USA Registered: May 2009
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posted August 26, 2010 12:12 PM
I always loved that movie too, Lexx. IP: Logged |