posted September 17, 2010 07:01 PM         

http://www.michellebelanger.com/

This is really interesting. I'm usually highly critical of books on various energy techniques because they use overly complex language, and are so up their own hole you can smell nothing but BS But this book is great and highly recommended for anyone interested in energy whether you class yourself as a vampire or not.

There is a free short version of this book as a pdf file but tonite I just cant locate it, otherwise Id post the link

This is also a really good interview with another author on psychic vampires

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRpG8o4W9HQ&feature=related

posted September 18, 2010 12:29 PM         

Short Codex http://www.sacred-texts.com/goth/vc/index.htm

posted September 18, 2010 01:52 PM         

Empaths know that it is possible to share positive emotions or be affected by energy around them without actually leeching it.

posted September 18, 2010 04:51 PM         

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If energy can be extracted from the ether, in healing work.....isn't psychic vampyrism a bit pointless

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The taking of energy/life force from someone during healing work without cycling it through your own system and giving it back all cleaned is a vampire/leech effect, and that is stealing, unless you have consent to do so from the person your working on.

Michelle version of vampire have no choice but to take peoples energy (in her case, under total consent from donors within her family and close friends) or their own state of being depletes to hell depending on which caste/type they are, she claims to be of the Priest caste and needs to feed the most.

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....something only conceited goths need to do, who fancy the idea of being strange a bit too much?
(Or those with a sadistic streak, who are spiritually ignorant of the interconnectedness between all things).

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Michelle address the unfortunate archetype label of vampire in her work in describing who and what she is, but the fact remains that some psychic vampires gravitate towards the goth end of things and see themselves very much as night time people. Yet many of the goths, sanguine vamps and general goth lifestylers are not psychic vamps, but are merely just emulating that dark, seductive vampire archetype for their own entertainment.

Out of all the psy-vamps I know, none are goths, all are spiritually inclined and very pleasant people who are just simply energetically functioning in a different way from most others. This does not make them, special or evil, or anything other than simply different, and when it comes to diversity in society we should all be little less judgmental.

Good and Evil, Light and Dark and all the shades of gray in between is a choice people make, doesnt matter who or what you are.

LTT, I was actually inspired to post this thread because of your thread What psychic abilities do you have? due to the kind of responses people were making.

Please look at Dr Joe Slate's work in the link provided in my fist post to the Red Ice video on youtube, under kilarian photography psy-camp energy patterns are radically different from a normal human.

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lei kuei...are you chinese???

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posted September 18, 2010 05:25 PM         

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The taking of energy/life force from someone during healing work without cycling it through your own system and giving it back all cleaned is a vampire/leech effect, and that is stealing, unless you have consent to do so from the person your working on.

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posted September 19, 2010 04:57 AM         

Her energy philosophy is simply this, all kinds of systems of energy exist, within these systems problems can arise, energy can start to pile up, clog up and become stagnant in certain areas, in both our environment and within humans/creature alike.

Take the example of a computer system. It is a system of energy/data/information and over time the registry/hard-drive of this system through countless interactions with software, users, internet and malicious/malevolent systems and users, all of which can reek havoc on the computers core operating system. A skilled computer users knows how to maintain this system and runs constant firewalls, security sweeps, defrags, cc clears, anti-virus to keep the flow of data through out the system at optimal levels. But many computer users are completely unaware of these problems and wonder why there system runs like pure ass. Then there nerdy friend comes over takes one look at your system defrags the hdd, uninstalls that pice of **** Norton anti-virus, installs zone alarm firewall and Avast AV, runs several CCsweeps and finds 1000's of redundant pieces of data lagging the crap out of your system.

In Michelle's world, this is where Psy Vamps can do there work, they naturally unconsciously are constantly stimulating all energy systems in proximity to there own, thus lessening the lag and creating a constant flow of energy for the benefit of all systems, the universal equivalent of IT people in the world of computers. When consciously aware of this skill set a Psy Vamp can directly stimulate the flow of energy in a given target both environmental, human or otherwise and of course within themselves.

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Only an amateur or a person attempting to heal others by using their energy, on an ego trip, to feel important, does that.
It is foolish, dangerous and outright invasive and can cause cross circuiting and
mutual dependency, and undesired permanent psychic bindings.

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Michelle devotes whole sections of the book to this, she makes it quite clear the risks in taking peoples energy especially through what she calls deep feeding through physical contact, its like unprotected sex with a stranger, psychic VD for the win! Yes she discusses the long term tenderal energy binds this can create with its undesirable effects.

Whatever about amateurs Lexx, what about a highly intuitive set of skilled energy manipulators who have been experimenting and working on one another for years within a closed group, as this is how Michelle claims she operates?

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Permission or not......no one should ever take energy/life force from any person...ever!
And never never never ever cycle another's energy/life force through your own system!
One is never ever to use theirs or anothers' energy to heal.
Never use your own energy or that of any person.
NEVER.

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Emm what? Your stonewalling me... your not getting off that lightly my dear, I want details as to why you feel one cant do this, none of this mortal sin-esque language please

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One opens to the etheric free energy and become a conduit but never uses or sends or takes their own energy or the other persons.

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Etheric Free Energy? Even over unity devices require an initial input of energy from a finite source (So where is the finite source for inital kick) which is then continuously cycled through its system creating a much stronger charge that is then fed back into the circuit until the output vastly exceeds the input, much in the same way I see how one could cycle energy through there own system for the same effect.

What is Etheric Free Energy? Is it simply energy that is all around us, in this very room? Is it there when you pay your taxes Lets look at the system, EFE >> Conduit >> Target, here is the problem, the conduit in this situation has already got its own unique energy system it isn't a simple cable bypass to the target location, Where is the energy entering or interacting with the conduit/human/whatever? How can you be sure that none of your own energy isn't mixing/disrupting the EFE and entering the target. How can you be even sure that EFE is safe to use (same applies to the use of ones own energy ofc)?

From where I'm standing your saying that you are the authority on such matters and this I find quite unlike the Lexx I know.

posted September 19, 2010 09:28 AM         

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Emm what? Your stonewalling me... your not getting off that lightly my dear,
I want details as to why you feel one cant do this, none of this mortal sin-esque language please

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mortal sin-esque language

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I am surprised that you would think I'd preach such utter crap as "sin" bullshite.
And I did not say cannot;
I said should not/must not.....if one has any common sense.
Stonewalling you?
Not my intention.
And I was referring to healing......
not the other "systems" you are referring to.
And I do not want to get into a discussion about those at this time.

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From where I'm standing your saying that you are the authority on such matters and this I find quite unlike the Lexx I know.

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posted September 19, 2010 01:35 PM         

Well, I looked into it a bit more, and frankly...disappointed, and
not interested.

posted September 19, 2010 02:54 PM         

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If energy can be extracted from the ether, in healing work.....isn't psychic vampyrism a bit pointless....something only conceited goths need to do, who fancey the idea of being strange a bit too much?
(Or those with a sadistic streak, who are spiritually ignorant of the interconnectedness between all things).

Empaths know that it is possible to share positive emotions or be affected by energy around them without actually leeching it.

Negative people who aren't psychic vampyres consciously, or those who are feeling very weak emotionally, can be draining to be around but that is due to empathy, not some conceited gothic crap directed at people by those who can only deal with life through needing to be different and "special" in this way.

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posted September 19, 2010 06:51 PM         

Wait, what? Caste? Priest caste?! Sounds very Hindu Caste system-like to me, apologies if it's not.

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posted September 19, 2010 08:15 PM         

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"depending on which caste/type they are, she claims to be of the Priest caste and needs to feed the most."

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posted September 20, 2010 01:32 PM         

We all have our ups and downs but some people need a shoulder to cry upon 24x7 without doing any work on themselves and they want someone to be there for them all the time because they 'need' to have a strong person to lean upon. These are the ones I call vampires: leeches who have no strength of their own and depend on others. The second-handers who go through lives by clinging to the coattails of stronger beings.

Just what about 'inner strength' and 'self-reliance' do they find difficult to understand?

Spiritual Suiciders: that's what they are!

posted September 20, 2010 02:07 PM         

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The term psychic vampire was popularized in the 1960s by Anton LaVey and his Church of Satan. LaVey wrote on the topic in his book, The Satanic Bible, and claimed to have coined the term.[2] LaVey used psychic vampire to mean a spiritually or emotionally weak person who drains vital energy from other people, or a paranormal entity within such a person, allowing the psychic draining of energy from other people. Adam Parfrey likewise attributed the term to LaVey in an introduction to The Devil's Notebook.[10]

Others have defined a 'psychic vampire' in the more traditional sense.
Michelle Belanger, has written a book entitled The Psychic Vampire Codex, which defines a psychic vampire as a person, who, from limited ability or complete inability, are unable to generate their own "life force", and must feed off of others, not just as an ability, but as a necessity, to maintain their youth, beauty and vitality, lest they wither away.

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They need worship too, and often say they are of a priestly class, and use their charisma to draw in the already emotionally weak to them.
In times past some claimed to be earth angels and protectors of children.
When not in body, they lure the dying to them who think of angels and light as good.
These poor souls are then consumed completely. Their identity patterns forever gone. They no longer exist.

Can such psychic vampires be cured?
Can they become whole again?
Yes, but it is very rare, and only for ones who were once human, and most either become sad resonances in time, or lures/bait for the in body psychic vampire to use to "catch" naive folks. They are wraith like non moving "ghosts", often appearing as a lost innocent child or a weeping beautiful woman, which are not anything more than a holographic like recording of their last feeling/being before being destroyed/consumed/or psychically dying.
They are not ghosts, there is no soul or auric energy there, nor any identity pattern.
All constructs/automatons /servitors however
eventually do "wither away", but not until they have taken, or devoured, or damaged many humans, turning them (if not outright destroyed in the feeding process) into new psychic vampires.

posted September 20, 2010 05:55 PM         

How can something just be so utterly destroyed? It's unimaginable to just not exist. Or does the eaten become an extension of the eater?

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posted September 20, 2010 06:32 PM         

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Lexx, I hope you are not right about those things. If it is true a soul's identity may be erased, is it possible that such a soul will always exist beyond time, because it existed in the dimension of the past? Could the universe therefore have the power to resurrect such a soul if it wanted to?

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Just curious, did you read the NDE of Mellen Thomas? (Peri posted it hear a long while back).

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Can one of these randomly come and eat you, or do they need permission? If they do just randomly eat, we're screwed...

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How can something just be so utterly destroyed? It's unimaginable to just not exist.

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Or does the eaten become an extension of the eater?

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As to soul/aura eaters...
I wrote a bit here, and it was not just the Pleid but their minions doing it too.: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000277.html

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To be consumed by the "P" is at first an exquisite sense of pure rapturous ecstasy, one lets go and freely gives into
the sweetness, the beautiful light, the calming loving feeling.....as they get into ones wide open trusting mind....
Then suddenly one finds the light and sweetness too much, suffocating, like drowning in sweet psychic honey,
like beyond a sustained mental orgasmic state, it becomes briefly then sheer agony and terror as one realizes
their soul energy is being sucked out of them, and their memories, experiences, their identity crumbles away to
nothing and they exist no more.

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Excerpted from the thread:
Lucifer and his fallen angels

Bear this in mind...we are in our soul memories the ones who will save us. We have been more than mere beings of this planet.
Within each of us are the savior of us...we are indeed the ones we are waiting for...
waiting for our beyond ancient memories which were suppressed, to return to us. That is what the outsiders wanted, to make us think we need some great thing to fix it all for us, and so be able to control us.
Fixing things does not help a species evolve. It must happen in its own time naturally. A loving species/civilization understands this.
More on that later....

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We humans are on our own now. We do have within each of us that shattered god, who continues to learn and grow and experience living by way of each of us. We were never meant to serve the outsiders nor rejoin as a one mind oneness.
As it was said tauntingly...
to paraphrase..."do ye not know that ye are gods?

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posted September 20, 2010 07:55 PM         

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That is what the outsiders wanted, to make us think we need some great thing to fix it all for us, and so be able to control us.
Fixing things does not help a species evolve. It must happen in its own time naturally. A loving species/civilization understands this.

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posted September 20, 2010 07:56 PM         

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Can you find the link?

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posted September 21, 2010 04:16 AM         

Oh Lol's, I have alot of catching up to do here...

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Huh???????????

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In your original reply you sounded so preachy and authoritarian I wanted to slap you, I have massive issues with authority that reply invoked visions of a person on a pulpit pointing a finger off "You Shall Not Do This!!"

I know well that you "may" be the authority on such matters by sheer experience alone. I can understand your frustration in that fact that your sitting on a proverbial mountain of information written by you, whether it be anecdotal, back up by hard physical evidence or a "this is just my opinion" manuscript yet unpublished and Im running around going hey!, this Vampire Codex is worth a look (Oh and still feel it is btw) I always have an avid ear for your opinions Lexx, but I just don't like being told what I should and shouldn't do by any one. I always want to run my own experiments based off all available data before Ill come to anything close to a "truth" result.

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I am surprised that you would think I'd preach such utter crap as "sin" bullshite.

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I am surprised that you bypassed my dry wit again! Ofc I should have known it would **** you off as much as preachiness ****** me off So we are even then? Lol.

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Is she related to Jeff Belanger? http://www.jeffbelanger.com/
Well, I looked into it a bit more, and frankly...disappointed, and
not interested.

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LMFAO, I cant believe I have to play defense attorney for Michelle here, I actually just wanted to use her Book as a proxy in starting a conversation about energy techniques/cultivation/manipulation, but since I brought her into the fold I feel duty bound to atleast give her a fair trial.

Just 5mins more research there are you would have found this:
http://blogs.myspace.com/ghostvillager#ixzz10966wjii

Episode 19 - 30 Odd Minutes - Psychic Vampires with Michelle Belanger, Nope not anyway related to one another

Show is hilarious by the way, I think Ill start watching jeff for sh!ts and giggles.

Cancer/Scorpio729@

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Wait, what? Caste? Priest caste?! Sounds very Hindu Caste system-like to me, apologies if it's not.

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