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WinkAway
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posted October 15, 2010 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WinkAway     Edit/Delete Message
I've always been interested in the unknown, so kinda dig this forum :-D

I was wondering if anyone here is in the know with how to invite certain visitors who have passed into your life.

A couple of years ago I was going thru a pretty emotional time in my life and I felt my grandma very strong around me. I was constantly thinking of her and wept for her loss which was around 20 years ago. I haven't felt her around me in awhile and I miss her.

So I wanted to see if there's a way to communicate with her or...invite her. I'm sure you'd have to be careful with how you go about it, right?

I'd make an awesome witch lol... kinda half kidding there. It's always been a curiousity of mine.

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GypseeWind
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posted October 16, 2010 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
There is a book by Ray Moody, I'll have to check on which one, but in it he teaches how to make a 'psychomanteum' hope I spelled that right.

In essence, it's a dark room with a mirror.
Supposedly he has clients from all over coming to his house in SC, or NC? to use it.

When you go in there and stare into the mirror and meditate, a loved one thats passed may come to you. Or may not. No guarentees.
But here's the catch, he invented the thing to talk to one certain very beloved relative, and when he went in, the very person he despised (if you can really despise family) is the one that showed up.
His 'Mean Granny'.

So, the moral of the story in this case was that it may not be just a nice visit, if we seek those that have passed.
It may be painful and require alot of work and introspection.

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WinkAway
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posted October 18, 2010 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WinkAway     Edit/Delete Message
Good point...
be careful what you wish for kinda thing...

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LEXX
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posted October 18, 2010 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Well the majority of times by the time one tries to make contact, the deceased has moved on, or has reincarnated.
It is very unkind and selfish to "hold" or "trap" folks preventing them from going on to do what is best for them.
How would anyone feel about being held and not let go?

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posted October 19, 2010 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
As close as my grandmother and I were in life, and as often as she has come to me since her death, it is never at my request. She comes when she feels like it

Just be yourself, be receptive, and the rest will follow. If you go inviting someone to come see you, who knows what you will end up with!

Just my .02. Not everything in the astral is benevolent, and those who aren't benevolent are masters of trickery.

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posted October 19, 2010 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
StarrofVenusGirl
Good observations and advice!
If the loved one is free to come and go, and has not reincarnated yet...
yes, I agree with you!

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posted October 19, 2010 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, I agree Lexx.
After my Grandparents died, I only felt them around me for a very short time, and then they were gone.
I knew they'd moved on.

But, there is someone else in my life that hasn't moved on for nearly two years.
I've been told that myself and some others are keeping him here.
And you are right, it is unkind, but yet
so very hard
when you loved somone
so very much.

So, Lexx, do you believe in what John Edward does or not?

Do you think that if the soul has not reincarnated, they can choose to visit if called upon, or if they feel like it???

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posted October 19, 2010 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
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So, Lexx, do you believe in what John Edward does or not?
No.
Not in my opinion, based on my experience and research, and observing him.
He is a VERY adept "receiver".
He does not realize that is what he is doing.
That means he picks up on the folks he is reading for, their thoughts and tells them what they expect or wanted to hear.
He is not always able, but that is what he does.
He is NOT usually communicating with the discarnates.
Only when the person or family has them in the "held" state I described, does he get any messages from the "dead"...via again, reading the thoughts of the living who are getting messages from their deceased loved ones.
John is not able to talk to, or sense ghosts directly.
However; his receiver skills are very good and can be useful.
I shall private you about the "test" I did on him.
I do not want to publicly post about it.
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Do you think that if the soul has not reincarnated, they can choose to visit if called upon, or if they feel like it???
Choose yes, if stable enough and not trying to unduly influence the living and not desiring to stay too long, neglecting what they need to do for themselves.
Generally, calling upon them is not a good idea. This can lead to held states;
unless they came by choice first and just wanted to visit, not interfere, then yes, calling on them is usually OK.
Just like asking them to pay a visit as they had done whilst in body.
And...if they come across as anything other than themselves, ie; wings, yadda yadda...then it may be an impersonator or they are in a self reinforcing delusion/illusion and are holding themselves
via self deception to hang around the in body folks. These types are often overly "helpful", ie; interfering with the lives of the in bodied folks they visit.
I hope that made sense.

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posted October 23, 2010 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
OK, (about the private message)...

IDK, about John. Hmmm, he is intriguing.
I say this because if you watch, alot of the people are expecting someone else than who they get, and are quite startled when Aunt so and so comes through. So, if he was 'reading' them, he would of 'read' the thought/idea of the person that they originally wished to speak with, you know?

I think it's strange how he can't really hone in on the right audience member though.. like when he says, "Someone over here, has an 'S' name.." things like that.

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posted October 23, 2010 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
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OK, (about the private message)...
I will write you about it! LOL!
Write and remind me if it slips my mind.
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IDK, about John. Hmmm, he is intriguing.
I say this because if you watch, alot of the people are expecting someone else than who they get, and are quite startled when Aunt so and so comes through. So, if he was 'reading' them, he would of 'read' the thought/idea of the person that they originally wished to speak with, you know?
Not if an actual "ghost" were communicating with the people, but on subconscious levels, which they often do with, as they are called in the Harry Potter books;
"Muggles"...
which in this case would pertain to folks who cannot hear what a discarnate is telling them, so it enters into their dream part of their brains or subconscious mind.
An adept receiver like John can pick up those messages as easily as picking up on any thought in their heads.
And so, Auntie could come through instead of Grandma, because Auntie is trying to communicate and John picks it up from the folks she is trying to talk to but they do not consciously hear her.
I hope that made sense.
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I think it's strange how he can't really hone in on the right audience member though.. like when he says, "Someone over here, has an 'S' name.." things like that.
That is an old common carney or faux fortune teller trick.
It is called "fishing" or baiting" for the easy and obvious...hoping someone will speak up....does not matter who, just whomever in this case has an "S" name....which in a big audience would be very possible to have.

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posted October 23, 2010 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
OK, in my less muddled state, I see what you are saying.
He's a mind reader, not a medium. Got it.!

I had to wait and reread that stuff you wrote because I was taking the cough syrup at the time, and woah, that stuff is potent!

Yes, I will remind you about the message, I'm am really intrigued on the tests you tried on him.

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posted October 25, 2010 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message
Personally I'm not a John fan either...for eh similar reasons Lexx has stated..nuf said

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posted October 25, 2010 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WinkAway     Edit/Delete Message
Wow I must say that I forgot about this thread for a tad lol.

LEXX...
Just to be clear...
I wouldn't ever do anything to trap my grandma or anyone else....anywhere. Intentionally at least.
Selfish would be putting that lightly.

It makes real sense that the reason I no longer feel her around me is that she moved on. I didn't really think about that.

A couple of years ago she was very very heavy around me. I was constantly thinking about her and cried over her even though she passed almost 20 years before then. I found myself missing her terribly and couldn't figure out why. Then she was gone. I still miss her but don't feel her presence like I did. Which is what made me ask that.

But like I said, I didn't think that maybe she was so heavy around me because she was saying goodbye and moving on.

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