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BanxxManxx
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posted December 30, 2010 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxxManxx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have in the past taken a lot of legal, over the counter pills called Wal Tussin. Its active ingredient that gets you high is called DXM. Now that I feel like I have a higher calling would it be wrong for me to continue to do these pills? How about drugs in general? I do drugs because I like the insights that they give me. I feel like I wouldn't have gotten some of the insights I have without them. What is everyones thoughts on this?

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posted December 30, 2010 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 30, 2010 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cancer/Scorpio729     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think this topic would be better in Health and Healing. However, there was another topic a while ago about mushrooms, the hallucination-causing kinds, here's the link: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/004158.html

As to the sex part, it's all opinion. I agree with what Kat says and don't think there's anything wrong with sex (unless it's the unsafe kinds, obviously). Better to masturbate than get herpes.

From what I've read sexual energy directly influences the rest of your energy fields. In short, when your sex life is going good, everything else flows smoothly. There isn't anything that makes sex with a partner or masturbation morally wrong, it's all just a hype with really nothing to support it (besides, as I mentioned before, unsafe sex or sex at ridiculously young ages).

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posted December 30, 2010 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Recreational use of dextromethorphan

As to masturbation.
Enjoy!
It is your body.
A lot better for you than the DXM.
If God was against you pleasuring yourself;
God would have made it impossible for any one to do so.
I am not going to get into it all here.
That is a topic for Sweet Peas In The Rain forum.

Drugs used for vision quests are in my opinion fine.

Sex with people?
Post that query at Sweet Peas In The Rain.

I am going to ask this thread be moved there.
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BanxxManxx
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posted December 31, 2010 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxxManxx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Life is becoming more and more beautiful to me. I feel so blessed to be apart of it. I thank the infinite Creator constantly for this experience.

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posted December 31, 2010 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cancer/Scorpio729     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LEXX:

Sex with people?
Post that query at Sweet Peas In The Rain.

Yeah definitely.

quote:
Originally posted by BanxxManxx:

Life is becoming more and more beautiful to me. I feel so blessed to be apart of it. I thank the infinite Creator constantly for this experience.


Good for you

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posted January 02, 2011 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the topic is fine right where it is so it's gonna stay here. Everyone has an opinion and we can get some good discussin' and talkin' here.
So topic stays!!

I don't think there's anything wrong with taking drugs, within reason just like everything else. Its how you take them and who you take them with.

I personally hate losing all control of my ability to function, walk and speak thanks to alcohol and would rather be chilling on a good buzz than that..ew. Or laughing my head off on some spiritual journey in my mind.

Everything in moderation, nothing in excess.

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BanxxManxx
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posted January 02, 2011 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxxManxx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diablo, you should post here more often

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mochai
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posted January 02, 2011 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Non-tantric sex increases the movement of apana (downward prana) in the shushumna or central nadi where kundalini needs to flow. By virtue of that, non-tantric orgasms are great for grounding, and I'm fairly certain that works for masturbation or otherwise.

As far as drugs go, some weaken the aura and alcohol causes problems with my kundalini (I'm worse the next day) so I just avoid it. If ayahuasca or salvia were legal in my state I'd consider it just for shamanic purpuses.

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posted January 02, 2011 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RiverDawg47     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Everything in moderation, nothing in excess."..... and that is the key right there, all differences and opinions aside. ten thumbs up!

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posted January 02, 2011 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxxManxx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diablo, I wanted to ask you something. Here is my only potential issue with drugs. Is it possible that drugs open a doorway for negative entities to enter the users mind?

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posted January 02, 2011 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BanxxManxx:
Diablo, I wanted to ask you something. Here is my only potential issue with drugs. Is it possible that drugs open a doorway for negative entities to enter the users mind?

that or psychosis

drugs could also trigger any genetic predisposition of mental illnesses like bipolar,schizophrenia


but I agree that certain drugs aren't bad if taken with moderation and discipline

some drugs can be used for shamanic purposes

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posted January 02, 2011 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxxManxx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Glaucus:
that or psychosis

drugs could also trigger any genetic predisposition of mental illnesses like bipolar,schizophrenia


but I agree that certain drugs aren't bad if taken with moderation and discipline

some drugs can be used for shamanic purposes


Glaucus, I have noticed that a lot of your terminology is science based. This isn't exactly all wrong but you must understand that underneath these terms there is energy and a certain spirit quality at work.

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Diablo
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posted January 03, 2011 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I just want to make this very, very clear.

I do not advocate the use of drugs nor do I recommend it.

Its the kind of subject that's personal to each individual in their experience. As for myself, I grew up in the drug world and I also studied drugs and their effects on the mind and body in psychology, so I have the professional knowledge to be able to self medicate safely.

All of this is indicated in my natal chart, drugs are just meant to be a big part of my life in all aspects that it encompasses.

Drugs have had a big role in my life and got me reaching places in my mind that that literally out of this world. An acid trip cured my depression and I stopped taking anti depressants that very day as I had ripped my 3rd eye open.

But I've had bad times with drugs too. I've been addicted to them and was using them for the wrong reasons but it was all for a big learning experience that has taught me invaluable things that have given me wisdom and maturity beyond my years.

Most people take drugs to escape their pain. Most people aren't evolved enough as spiritual beings to be able to handle what the effects to do your aura and astral self. Most people take drugs in the wrong environment with the wrong people with the wrong mindset which only amplifies the bad feelings.

My experiences of drugs has been that of Pink Floyd, Jimmy Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Curtis Mayfield....pure creative. I feel the spirit of their legacy flowing through me at all time, I'm a modern day hippy. If it wasn't for the drugs, there would have been no 60s revolution, no woodstock, no amazing music etc.

But that's just MY experience.

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posted January 03, 2011 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Banx some drugs make holes in your aura that make it easy for an entity to get in. There are entities or energy debris from peoples' past lives that are still addicted to certain substances, most frequently alcohol and will hang out at bars for that express purpose of enjoying it through the user. I coud see it happening with other drugs too. I'm not sure the effect of all drugs on the aura or astral body though.

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posted January 03, 2011 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well....psychiatry is valid

Why is it that I am wrong for expressing my views like you express yours.

I don't believe that it's always a spirit and energy thing behind it.

I believe that there is an actual organic,chemical thing behind it .

There is such thing as bipolar and schizophrenia

drugs can trigger bipolar,psychosis,schizophrenia in people that have a genetic predisposition

It's very common for people with psychiatric disorders to self medicate with drugs too.

I equally believe in both the validity of metaphysical and science

balancing the material and spiritual is my greatest life challenge
Moon = Saturn/Neptune (t-square and corresponding midpoint picture)

Both my parents were drug addicts.
I never knew my father because he had drug problems.
My maternal uncle Eddie had a drug problem
Alcoholism also runs strong in my family
Psychiatric disorders like depression and anxiety disorders do too. I even see manic depressive traits in my relatives too.
Neurodivergence also runs strong in my family, and ultrasensitivity does too. Both are strongly connected.

It was a schizophrenic that shot and almost killed my mom, and I was with her at the time.

I have been part of a mental health program - Transitional Living Community Support. I lived in transititional housing,and I knew a lot of people that had both psychiatric disorders and drug/alcohol addiction.

It's also common for people with ADHD to self medicate with drugs and alcohol.
Studies show that people with both Dyslexia and ADHD are at high risks of using drugs than other people.


All of that could be connected to Neptune in some way.

As an astrologer, I always warn people with strong and/or challenged Neptune about drugs and alcohol.

I have strong and challenged Neptune, and that's one of the factors of me staying clear away from drugs and alcohol. That and my strong family history of drug and alcohol addiction.

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posted January 03, 2011 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Psychiatrists and psychologists seriously scare me, and this is coming from someone who reads scientific journals for fun.
http://www.youtube.com/user/bipolarorwakingup#p/u/42/xBBc3fEnwOw (my views on the pharmaceutical industry.. research oriented)

I figured you'd bring up the bipolar/schizophrenia thing at some point. Perhaps when I'm done digesting my views on the medical models for mental illness and spiritual illness both historically and presently I'll debate. Right now I just really don't want to.

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posted January 03, 2011 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I wasn't here to debate. I was here to express my views like everybody else has the right to.

I have been around people with psychiatric disorders.

I wouldn't deny the existence of bipolar and schizophrenia just like I wouldn't deny the existence of autism and Dyslexia.


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posted January 03, 2011 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm studying psychology and will definitely be a top leading psychologist one day and trust me, its not the big bad that everyone has a perception of.

Just like there is sh*t mechanics out there who turn your car into a lemon, there's sh*t therapists out there.

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posted January 03, 2011 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Diablo,

Good point.

There are quacks in every field

yes.....that goes for Astrology too!

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posted January 04, 2011 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cancer/Scorpio729     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glaucus:

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mochai
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posted January 04, 2011 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glaucus you're being overly defensive, which is partly my fault anyway. You just brought it up on a forum in a way where I figured you wanted to discuss it. Nothing combative about it. I thought that it was your intention given the content of this post thus far. I'm not a fascist and that is the last thing I'd want for lindaland or anywhere for that matter =p

I'm glad that at least someone is optimistic about psychology out there. With the efficacy rates I've seen of even the best therapies and the burn out rates for psychologists, I'm not. Of course I've been trying to cure something that they say is statistically impossible to cure with present techniques. By their standards I will die with it or die from it (not bipolar or schizophrenia). I've already made huge strides in something they say is impossible.

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posted January 04, 2011 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wasn't being overdefensive.

I was just telling you what I think.

That's just how I am.

I think my Mercury conjunct Venus in Scorpio in 3rd can seem too emotional,passionate,and intense to others when I communicate online.


any ways....Psychology and Psychiatry aren't the same.

Psychology is study of human behavior
Psychiatry is medical branch that specializes in mental disorders

I'd trust a psychologist a lot more than I would trust a psychiatrist.

I don't trust psychiatry at all.

I also don't believe the psychiatric medications work. I believe that they do more harm than good. I believe that alternative therapies should be used, and that even includes things like vitamins and minerals.

I definitely don't believe in psychiatric medication for ADHD which I don't believe is a disorder but a different way of thinking which has strengths and not just weaknesses.
There are too many things that mimic ADHD, and so genetic ADHDers get lumped together with the acquired ADHDers.

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posted January 07, 2011 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First I have to mention, as we are on a site in her name, Linda Goodman advised us not to take any drugs, not even alcohol as it damages brain cells.

The problem with drugs are that they do get you to a higher reality, that's why it's called to get high, but they get you there before walking the way to get there! And the way is very important, it's when you get your lessons, the high is just a reward.

In Kabbalah, they compare a high from a drug with a light bulb that short circuits-First it is an intense light before the bulb breaks, and after it is complete darkness.

I don't believe in drugs in the long run. it will bring negative side effects no matter what. Better walk the way. The problem is that to many people wants the easy way, but you have to realize that it is no such way in the long run.

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posted January 10, 2011 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Delos and excellent points!!

Glaucus

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