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Randall
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posted January 15, 2011 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quinnie, I'm seeking one additional Mod for this Forum. Would you be interested?

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Quinnie
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posted January 15, 2011 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eek Randall
What would that involve?
I'm totally flattered by the way!

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posted January 15, 2011 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cancer/Scorpio729     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Quinnie:
Cancer/scorpio, I read your article an dI think it has debunked this particluar conspiracy theory...I will sleep better tonight!

It's good to know that I'm not the only one who wakes up in the middle of the night all panicky after reading conspiracy theories While I don't think it's been completely debunked here, it certainly has offered another perspective. As others on here said before, the mural may just be there to inspire. Both sides can be argued. Currently though, the conspiracy makes more sense to me given the evidence. It's sickening, at times like this I really hate how messed up things are

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posted January 15, 2011 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mochai
You haven't rambled on as far as I'm concerned! NO WAY!

"I know many people know some of the information already and forget about it.. sometimes I can expand on it. Anyway, again, there is nothing wrong with being a truth seeker and there is nothing to fear. If we ignore patterns without looking deeply into their nature, we can miss out on the cosmic play in front of us, however that may manifest."

Absolutely....... Heck I forget things that I learned yesterday but when it's triggered I'll remember...hmmmm maybe I need to get some control over my mind rather than mind control. I think it's great that you have posted because you are not alone and people like me then can realise that we are not alone. If enough people accept these realities, then real change can happen, but whether we accept them or not, things will happen regardless...

I think (being a Libran), we need to find a balance between inner and outer, self and others, assertion and withdrawal, etc.

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posted January 15, 2011 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer/Scorpio729
I hate the way things are too, that's why we get frustrated...I think the most important thing is to not be afraid to speak up, to talk about even the most unelievable things and remain open.

I had a dream one night... (Now I'm heading into dillusionl here)...
I was 10 or 11 and about to change schools into secondary school or high school?....so I was going through a major transition and probably quite stressed about it.
I'm framing this because it could explain why I had this dream, probably because I was apprehensive, even fearing the coming months, years ahead.

Anyway I woke myself up screaming in the middle of the night, absolutely terrified. My mum ran upstairs to see what the heck was going on and I was shouting, the aliens are coming to get you, they're going to get you!...... I couldn't calm myself down and it took my mum a while to console me. I couldn't remember the dream though...

Weird huh.... It could easily be explained by the anxiety that I was feeling at that time about moving schools.... or could it?

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posted January 15, 2011 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cancer/Scorpio729     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, my sister had a few alien dreams as well. I was worried and researched the dream symbolism behind it. Aliens represent something unkown, and the not knowing element makes them scary. Switching schools may have indeed been the reason behind your dreams because of how unsure you were about the future. If you were little, it would be easy to get upset over a dream like this.

Wait, you can't remember the dream now or you couldn't remember it when you had it?

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posted January 15, 2011 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quinnie, you just keep an eye on things, move the wrong topics to the right Forum, and intercede if there's a disagreement.

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posted January 16, 2011 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer/Scorp,
I just remember waking up screaming the aliens are going to get you, that's why I'm thinking the dream was about aliens...IT might not have been though...Your assessment sounds about right ...I have never had any alien dreams. Just one or two times when I woke (again I could have been still asleep), and seen a boy, and then another a man standing at my bed... Dreams are cool. I must be a very vivid dreamer. I used to dream of flying etc...Perhaps I'm just an emotional person who needs to vent during dreamtime.

Randall, that's cool, would I have to be here every day?

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posted January 16, 2011 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting, listened to these videos this morning: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/004227.html

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posted January 16, 2011 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ariefairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well we know what the Governing bodies do when they have their hands on alien technology and means...

the denver thing is rather strange
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/7555431/Unexplained-sheep-attacks-caused-by-aliens-in-UFOs-farmers-claim.html

they messing with our heads!!!


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posted January 16, 2011 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope, that's why I add a few Mods, so no one has to be here every day.

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posted January 16, 2011 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree quinnie. I admire your tact and balance on the subject. Very libran.

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- The unexamined life is not worth living - Socrates 470-399 BC -

Couldn't agree more

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posted January 16, 2011 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think the illuminati's taste in art/ murals is very good. Look like pictures out of a jehovah's witness leaflet.

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Quinnie
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posted January 16, 2011 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awesome!Yeah Randall, I'd love to

Thank you!

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posted January 16, 2011 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ariefairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted January 17, 2011 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyway, I'm much wealthier in a spiritual sense to have all this information and to keep my eyes open for anything that may or may not be truth. You can't shut down in fear to something and expect to be able to digest the truth. Nothing is to be feared in this life.

As far as looking out for the self, being there for others and caring about them is looking out for the self. I see myself in all of them even when I'm angry at them. I think realizing the illusion of life here, especially in america and its' materialism, will ultimately save people in the long run when they wake up and realize what they're doing to others as well as themselves. We're all interconnected, but my karma I keep. Knowledge is power.

Ok I've rambled way too much. And sorry I get carried away.

Edit: I know many people know some of the information already and forget about it.. sometimes I can expand on it. Anyway, again, there is nothing wrong with being a truth seeker and there is nothing to fear. If we ignore patterns without looking deeply into their nature, we can miss out on the cosmic play in front of us, however that may manifest.[/B][/QUOTE]

I so agree mochai...Fear = control...and it definitely doesn't come from God...

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posted January 17, 2011 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if anyone has seen any of Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory show, but it's very enlightening...the one below is an excerpt of the one on DIA...I am not sure if the full-length one is still up...I suggest watching as many of his shows now, while you can...Episodes from his series are 'somehow' being erased from people's DVR's...we had heard about it, then it happened to us...it is NOT a rumor...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9EpqBf0oCY

DIA may have been completed in '95', but started about 90 or 91...I worked in Denver at the time, heavily involved in the bookkeeping side of it, with one of the General Contractors involved...Just when the job was about to be completed, another Change Order would hit, then another, then another...we were all curious as to why...hmmmm That job was only supposed to take a year or so to finish...those tunnels, that is what the issue was...

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posted January 17, 2011 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I stopped after reading the first article, I will read the second part later, when I have the time, but my first impression was that this cannot be possible.

I mean, yes, I know some horrible things can happen, I know that germany built in the 30' some camps with the intention to "detain" and then "kill" jews from europe. I know this type of ideas, of scheme, organised, can be imagined and worst, implemented.

but honestly, I also think that fear is a tool used to lead population, masses. and all I read recently on the net is full of fear, and very often, seems to mention the same things. i.e. windsor, reptilians, NWO, ... and so on.

I am not saying this is not happening or real, I am saying 2 things:

1- this create fears, most likely, in all of us who bother to read about it, not in those who don't bother to read about this subject, cause you've got to admit that only a small percentage of the population feels concerned about this type of readings, and those who do seems to take pleasure in scaring themselves. and hoping to scare other.

2-the sources are most time always the same. the windsor owning america for example, after reading it in david Icke I find it everywhere, it reminds me of those astrology article you constantly find everywhere on the web. the same over and over. for example, you are looking for info on the fixed stars and wherever you look for info on the web, you'll find them interpreted the same way, by someone called robson, and everyone passes this info around like if it was gospel. and either it is, in which case it isn't much a problem if nobody can compare it with someone else point of view, or either it isn't and then it is a big problem that all of us take this for granted.
I think it is the same problem with most of these subjects we are discussing here.

I am not saying that the denver airport is not built on something bigger, it seems to be if we trust the author of the article (at least in the first part that I read) and I don't deny that the unilateral (military) might of the US would become threatening to the world, not merely to it citizens, if the US was becoming a fascist state or something similar

so I don't deny this, but I wonder if we need to scare each other constantly for thing we don't have any proofs. may be this airport is secretly built to hide some government equipment of personnel in case of an international or national problem. like a refuge for the president, or for some population.

My point is: it's important to be sceptical but it is not necessary to be cynical, otherwise we are giving strenght to those we fear.

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posted January 17, 2011 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Mochai!

Ariefairy, yes they seem to be messing with our heads and this ties into Pires post... Is this a whisper of truth or rumour created to promote fear?

LTT, so many videos, and so little time...but I will watch them
Aren't most of the images invoked by religion horrific, especially, the book of revelations! They use symbolism, the language of the unconscious.......which promotes hynosis.

blonderiverkat
Sometimes it's difficult to remain fearless, especially when your family and friends don't share the same ideas about the world. Fear could come from a GOD but not a loving source?
Thanks for the video
Very interesting to hear about your job in Denver...more food for thought... and def reinforcing parts of the article.

Pire,I think we need to look at conspiracy theories objectively. You are so right in that it can be difficult to know if some are planted to create the fear that we all know....But it's this fear that can stop us from looking objectively.

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posted January 17, 2011 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by blonderiverkat:
I don't know if anyone has seen any of Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory show, but it's very enlightening...the one below is an excerpt of the one on DIA...I am not sure if the full-length one is still up...I suggest watching as many of his shows now, while you can...Episodes from his series are 'somehow' being erased from people's DVR's...we had heard about it, then it happened to us...it is NOT a rumor...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9EpqBf0oCY

DIA may have been completed in '95', but started about 90 or 91...I worked in Denver at the time, heavily involved in the bookkeeping side of it, with one of the General Contractors involved...Just when the job was about to be completed, another Change Order would hit, then another, then another...we were all curious as to why...hmmmm That job was only supposed to take a year or so to finish...those tunnels, that is what the issue was...


Wow, I never thought I'd like Jesse Ventura.. how wrong I was! Thanks for the video, it's sad how mainstream and available this stuff has become but we still have people closing their eyes..

Pire, I don't think anyone should take any one thing as gospel without extreme questioning and testing. I disagree with some of vigilantcitizen's symbolism decoding and interpretations on his blog, but that doesn't mean that I don't think he's done some amazing work. The point of these sites is to get people to wake up so they can think for themselves and not be like cattle.

I also think that if people can take care of themselves healthwise and be positive and loving without living in fear, that is the best option. I just don't think many people are doing that who are buying into consensus reality. It's hard when you don't see the truth to the images and chemicals you are polluting yourself with. For me personally, it's gotten to the point where these theories don't really scare me at all. What scares me is the way the world is going if it continues operating as it has.

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posted January 17, 2011 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emitres     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mochai - i most certainly don't hate you...
we all can benefit from having those arrows of truth shooting at us... and you are correct about choosing a path of ignorance... but i do firmly believe that many times we are given kernels of seeming truths which are not - the easiest, most effective way to convince anyone of falsehood is to mix in truth with it... i'm not suggesting there is no validity to any conspiracy theory, simply that our human brains are quite literally programmed to see connections where sometimes there are none...
knowledge is power but only if one can apply it in a practical way... if not, what purpose does it serve?
i agree with pire - fear is a tool, and a very effective one at that... as he so wisely points out the situation in '30s Germany... even today there are numerous examples - one quick one, when i was living in Houston in 2008, the Bush International Airport had announcements every 15 minutes reminding it's citizens that the threat level was code orange...still...

listenstotrees - see, now that possibility hadn't even entered my mind, but i am very inclined to agree with the possibility of misinterpretation... good call

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posted January 17, 2011 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We don't believe everything we hear, you have to use discernment...there is definitely alot of info all around us that is there for the sole purpose of creating fear...when something catches our attention, we dig deeper...we look at numerology ties, as well as astrological...meditate on it...does your intuition tell you it is true? Or does it tell you that it is hogwash? We don't take anything at face value anymore...if I read something that I am unsure of, I pass it to my 'other half'...he looks into it further and says 'that is just to cause fear', or 'wow, I need to look into that deeper'....there are lies, along with the truth everywhere...you just have to weed through the lies, to get to the truth...God has blessed us with these gifts for a reason...

Jesse Ventura rocks! He is not afraid of exposing the truth...and if it weren't true, the Government wouldn't be stepping in to make sure less people can hear these truths...

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posted January 17, 2011 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Emitres, sorry my kundalini mixed with leo asc makes me semi-dramatic. It's getting better though!

I do believe there is a lot of disinformation out there and you wisely point out that mixing in truth with it makes it easier to convince people of it's authenticity. I believe people discussed that as being a more subtle technique of mind control in another post on this forum.

Wow, I'm surprised the GHW aiport still does that. The fearmongering that I see does anger me some. My beliefs on fear are similar to that of the shaman's, which is extremely approach oriented when dealing with fear.. so it's becoming addictive/compulsive to approach whatever is causing it.

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posted January 17, 2011 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emitres     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no need to apologize mochai... honestly... the beauty of being here is that we are all different and provide different perspectives
which makes learning that much more interesting and quicker too...

a lot of very good points have been brought up by everyone...

quinnie - sorry i didn't thank you before for "defending" me so to speak it was a much appreciated gesture

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posted January 17, 2011 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by emitres: the beauty of being here is that we are all different and provide different perspectives
which makes learning that much more interesting and quicker too...

a lot of very good points have been brought up by everyone...

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