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Topic: I feel people read too much into astrology
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listenstotrees
Knowflake Posts: 1861
From: Rivendell
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 06, 2011 06:04 AM
  
I used to be very into astrology in the past....but not any more. I think it is very easy for us to convince ourselves of something, to see more into things than what is really there, especially when charts are so complex. I do believe that the planets give off fields that probably affect us. But I feel that astrology as we think of it, is highly unlikely to be accurate, and varies so much amongst different cultures anyway.At the end of 2009, I found someone who I know in my heart is the one I've been searching for; I'm not sure there is any such thing as twin flames, but if there are, I know mine has to be him. Actually I'm less inclined to believe there are such a thing as twin flames, but maybe if we, as creators ourselves, desire such a thing as one true love, we will manifest this very thing.....I always felt I was searching for someone in particular.....maybe some people, who desired this deep love, are "made for each other"....if there is no such thing as time and we knew what we wanted right from the beginning, though there is no beginning.....then the god within us would have created it that way. Anyway, the point I was trying to get to, is that there is nothing really in the composite chart of he and I, to indicate that we are twin flames, but I know in my heart he is the one. I was also told by someone on the astrology forum that there would not be much laughter in our relationship......but there is......how can this be if the great astrology god has dictated that there wouldn't be? LOL.
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rajji
Knowflake Posts: 65
From: Hyderabad, A.P, India.
Registered: Jan 2011
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posted February 06, 2011 08:19 AM
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when there is is someone that you know 100% that you love and that you are made for each other, it doesn’t really matter what interpretation you get, if it’s not the one that says you should stay together until the End of the Age, then it is obviously wrong. of course it’s wrong, how can some random Astrology tell you about how you feel about someone when it doesn’t even have feelings of its own.
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Randall
Webmaster Posts: 5460
From: The Goober Galaxy
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 06, 2011 12:12 PM
Astrology is just a guide to help you understand your significant other better and possibly avoid potential conflicts. Astrology doesn't do anything in the traditional view of cause and effect. It's more symbolic--like a mirror above reflecting what is happening at that time on Earth--as above, so below. It's easy to confuse that with cause and effect in the linear-based illusion in which we live. Linda said that Love can overcome anything...even the stars.  ------------------
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GypseeWind
Moderator Posts: 5072
From: Dayton,Ohio USA
Registered: May 2009
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posted February 06, 2011 12:40 PM
I tend to agree, even though I think astrology is very interesting.I was married to someone for twenty years with whom my chart shows no real significant ties. We had three children, but they aren't technically even 'there' in the chart.
I was told if he had been born just a few days before, we would of had all these magical conjunctions and whatnot.
To me, what difference does that information make? I mean, I didn't know about it when we were married, and if I did, I seriously doubt that it would have affected my decision even one little bit. It was OUR destiny to marry and bring three children into this world, this I KNOW to be true. It doesn't matter that it's ended, it still stands as my longest, most important relationship to date, despite astrology! I see people putting up charts all over the place (not just here) searching, seeking, twisting, adding numerous asteroids, just wanting so badly to find something of meaning.
I think that is really sad.
I feel bad for them.
It's either there or not.
It's going to happen or not.
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Randall
Webmaster Posts: 5460
From: The Goober Galaxy
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 06, 2011 01:25 PM
Astrology and reincarnation go hand-in-hand. Charts show past life connections. This can be both good and bad. BUT (and it's a big but), you can always meet someone new and create a future past life connection and brand new Karma.------------------
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Glaucus
Moderator Posts: 5518
From: Sacramento,California
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 06, 2011 03:43 PM
I agree with what everybody said in here.I also want to point out a few things. There are things that I believe work in Astrology that I don't see anybody in this forum use. planetary nodes in synastry
(geocentric planetary the nodes up to Mars)
The geocentric nodes of the asteroid could work including especially dwarf planet Ceres and the major asteroids, Pallas,Juno,and Vesta.
The planetary nodes, major asteroids in the composite.
Transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates besides Pluto in synastry and composite The transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate nodes in a composite
The East Point/West Point axis which is an auxilliary Ascendant/Descendant axis like the Antivertex/Vertex axis. The late Zipporah Dobyns advocated both. Her daughter, Maritha Pottenger does too.
It can be used in synastry and composite.
Right Ascension (Equatorial Longitude)
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Randall
Webmaster Posts: 5460
From: The Goober Galaxy
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 06, 2011 04:02 PM
LTT, I wish you were around a few years ago on a different board. I mentioned that two people can be compatible with no strong synastry between them, and I was pretty much gang raped. It would have been nice to have had a living example. I do not see why newly-engaged Souls can't form brand new connections; surely, a clean slate is refreshing to find and should be cherished due to its rarity. ------------------
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iQ
Knowflake Posts: 2474
From: Chennai, India
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 07, 2011 01:17 AM
You are right Randall, it is possible to have a very good relationship even without a good synastry provided there is Spiritual Awareness. Astrology is linked to Karma. For unaware people, even a Lunar Transit will work as a fated event.
For Saints, even a Saturn Return or Uranus square won't cause as much as a pin prick. Astrology explains the nature of planetary energies beamed down to Earth. How we react and use these energies is totally dependent on our Free Will. The probability of using free will depends on the Spiritual Awareness developed by the individual. Much of the ignorance about the exact working of Astrology stems from the ignorance of the 7 Hermetic Laws. Look how beautifully Astrology and Heremtic Laws combine to explain the Tunisian and Egyptian Revolution. 1. Horrible Hosni completed a Saturn Return of dictatorship exact. 2. Jupiter re-entered Aries and the true ruler of Aries, Pluto is in Capricorn bashing the old establishments. Tunisia rebelled and succeeded. This gave encouragement to the Egyptians by the Law of Attraction and the Principle of Polarity. 3. Saturn became retrograde and Egyptians took to the streets in millions. 4. Sun conjunct Mars in Aquarius and the entire Egyptian Cabinet resigned. 5. When Uranus enters Aries, the Law of Attraction, Correspondence and Polarity will work in the rest of Arabia. The most repressive regime will fall the fastest. 6. Why is Norway quiet? Their leaders do not have accumulated negative karmas to suffer a revolt even during these transits.
Scandinavians have the least negative karma in the planet, with Uruguay and Paraguay in second place.
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Randall
Webmaster Posts: 5460
From: The Goober Galaxy
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 07, 2011 02:40 AM
Glaucus and iQ, you are two of the most adept astrologers I know of. I am humbled.  ------------------
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listenstotrees
Knowflake Posts: 1861
From: Rivendell
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 07, 2011 03:37 AM
I think I was on that board you mentioned, Randall.  My computer access was limited at the time though. I remember you posting a thread about money being the root of evil.  IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 5460
From: The Goober Galaxy
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 07, 2011 01:59 PM
I don't recall that. Money is just a tool...a medium of exchange...the physical expression of energy. ------------------
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GypseeWind
Moderator Posts: 5072
From: Dayton,Ohio USA
Registered: May 2009
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posted February 07, 2011 09:12 PM
Glaucus the reason you don't see people using astrology the way you pointed out is because most of us don't understand it!
I wish I had your capacity for knowledge on this sort of thing, and IQ's as well.I see people freaking out about their Saturn Return all the time.
Know what happened during mine?
NOTHING.
Was it because I was busy taking care of babies, and didn't think of it?
Probably.
If we go looking for something, we are apt to find it, don't you think? That goes for good as well as bad.  And, speaking for myself, I have Saturn in the 12th conjuct Chiron. So, MOST of my relationships feel karmic to me.
Again, for the good or the bad. IP: Logged |
Cancer/Scorpio729
Moderator Posts: 500
From: 6,000 feet above sea level
Registered: Feb 2010
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posted February 08, 2011 12:30 AM
IQ and Glaucus, you both are very knowledgeable  IQ I found that book you recommended, Stellar Man. I haven't read too much into it, but the beginning talks Isis devouring those who don't accept her challenge...? Do you know what that's about? I stopped reading there. IP: Logged |
iQ
Knowflake Posts: 2474
From: Chennai, India
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2011 06:56 AM
Hi CancerScorpio,
The "Devouring" of Isis is Symbolic. Those who read the book and know the Hermetic Secrets have a responsibility to be aware of this knowledge, else, they attract harshest lesson of all: Re-Incarnation on 3D Earth.That book is a priceless gem, but if you want a lighter read prior to this book, Kybalion is the best choice. IP: Logged |
juniperb
Moderator Posts: 929
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2011 10:39 AM
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Astrology explains the nature of planetary energies beamed down to Earth. How we react and use these energies is totally dependent on our Free Will. The probability of using free will depends on the Spiritual Awareness developed by the individual.
Absolutely!! Spiritual Awareness is the Key to Life and living it Without the awareness, one is fear based , feels fated and miss`s the joy of living in the Now.... and, blames their behaviors,events and lifestyle on their astro make-up. I am so happy to see this convo and the understandings of karma, free will, destiny et al ------------------
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Cancer/Scorpio729
Moderator Posts: 500
From: 6,000 feet above sea level
Registered: Feb 2010
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posted February 08, 2011 07:01 PM
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Originally posted by iQ:
That book is a priceless gem, but if you want a lighter read prior to this book, Kybalion is the best choice.
Yes, thank you, that sounds like a better idea. IP: Logged |
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