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SilverStone
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posted June 14, 2011 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverStone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A little something I found I thought you might be interested in.

Karma is evil

Even in the astral world, one is subjected to the astral "laws" of karma.
 
Astral beings are forced to re-incarnate again and again for reasons that are based upon lies. In the astral, one is forced or coaxed into believing that one has to do this or that in order to rid oneself of astral debts in order to attain liberation from the astral rebirths.

If this is true, one has the horrible task of ridding oneself of the unjust karma. It is unjust because, contrary to its claim, karma is not administered fairly, even though its main claim is that "you reap what you sow." This is not always true. Karma is carried out in such a way as to make sure the true beings are always being disadvantaged.

There are, however, some loopholes and means of bypassing or modifying karma, but few know of these or are capable of using them. Unless there is some special intervention by those who can avoid karma, astral beings are stuck in the endless and pointless cycle of birth and re-birth. This perpetual cycle forces being to move from the astral to the physical and back again, endlessly.
 
Whether a being is in the physical or in the astral, that being is incurring karmic debts.
 
These debts are impossible to repay under the evil system. Trying to pay off physical and astral debts is like attempting to pay off a perpetual mortgage for the soul. The evil lords of Karma extract such high interest that nobody can pay off his/her debts.

As an example, according to the law of karma, it is believed by many that if "X" assists a disabled person, "X" could be interfering with that person's karma, hence "X" would be punished with karmic debt for the interference.
 
On the other hand, if "X" doesn't assist the disabled person, "X" could also be blamed for not assisting, and also incur karmic debt. How can "X" or anyone else know whether to act or not according to another's karma? "X" cannot know. Karma is a capricious system; it is devoid of justice. Even the purest of heart can and probably will be strapped with infinite karmic debt in this evil creation.

Some believe that a spiritual guru on this plane can advance to the point that he or she can wipe off his or her karma in just a few lifetimes. This is absurd. Apart from the Rescuers of the Light such as the Amoebas, nobody leaves this plane except through the loophole and etc. described earlier.

In the astral, one soon learns that everything is based on thoughts. Thus, the astral beings can use their thoughts for good or evil. They can delude themselves by creating thought forms which appear to be real and continue to live in that illusion until the bubble breaks or until they become bored and restless.

If one does not participate in the activities or programs imposed by the archons of the Evil usurper, one will be greatly disadvantaged. The evil ones on earth are usually rewarded by being given favorable roles and important positions which further help program the astral and earth people according to the ways the administrators of the astral world dictate.
 
Those who try to do the right things by the Light are given minor roles at best. The less fortunate ones are manipulated and disadvantaged throughout their astral existence. Everyone in the astral is eventually forced in one way or another to reincarnate on the earth plane again.

In the astral, there are those who appear to be helpful, loving and genuine. But, most often they are evil deceivers. In reality, the inhabitants of the astral world are very much under the control of the evil astral system. The danger is that it has the appearance of freedom, light and spirituality to keep many temporarily happy. As in this physical world, things are not what they appear to be in the astral also.

If ever you should accidentally wander into a lower astral realm where things are really bad, you can move out of it by calling for Divine help or by projecting positive thoughts of where you want to be. Be not fearful of the lower astral beings because they feed on your fear.

When one dies suddenly, such as in an accident, that person may become a "lost soul". If one takes his or her own life or if one has great desires due to attachment to people or material things, or when one has great anger, jealousy, fear or confusion at the time of death, one can become a "lost soul" after the physical passing.
 
A "lost soul" is one who doesn't realize or accept that he or she is dead. He or she hangs around very close to the earth plane. When he or she is stuck in-between the earth and astral world, he or she is called a "lost soul".

However, not every person who commits suicide or dies suddenly is trapped as a "lost soul". Why is that?

The reason is that karma is evil and capricious. It favors some and abuses others. Such an unjust and horrendous plan can only be the creation of a very sick and very evil god. It is very obvious that the war between Good and Evil is also being waged in the astral world. The chaos exists in this physical dimension also exists in the astral and to a much higher degree.

Although your pain and illness will be gone when you become a citizen of the astral world at physical death, there is still a type of suffering which is quite agonizing for all beings involved, but this is especially true for the true beings. This suffering is a pain of the spirit and it cannot be quenched by any means except through Divine healing.
 
Fortunately, in the astral there are some Light beings who operate as true healers and teachers to help heal, guide and support the ones who needed assistance. These are under the direction and protection of high spiritual beings of Great Power and Love. They are not placed in the astral by the evil demigod, but have been placed there by the Light. This is one aspect of the war between Good and Evil in the astral world.

The Halls of Learning in the astral world that so many speak highly of, are in reality halls for various mass programming as well as individual programming. In other words, those who enter the Halls of Learning are brainwashed and programmed.
 
This is also where the evil controllers in the guise of great spirits program the beings on earth.
 
The so-called "natural laws" that operate in the astral world are actually "laws" dictated by the Archons of the usurping Evil god. Those who co-operate with the "natural laws" of the astral world are rewarded according to the whims of the evil controllers. Those who resist the evil controllers are punished, but most of those being punished are unaware of their punishment due to programming.
 
Often, they are forced into horrible bodies in their next incarnation. However, they will be told or programmed into believing that it is for their highest good that they must incarnate under certain conditions. These will be told that they have more lessons to learn on earth and that they have a life purpose to fulfill.
 
Some people on earth parrot this programmed message, and "teach" others the same lie - that,
we have all come to the earth plane to learn and to enrich our souls by fulfilling our life purposes.
There is a saying that this world would be a better place if women were to rule it. This is quite untrue.
 
Take for instance, many of the female politicians who are far worse than their male counter-parts, given the same situations. This is mainly due to the fact that more of the "demonic consciousnesses" are placed in female bodies, far more than in the male bodies. No wonder women are often looked upon with suspicion and scorn - and rightly so in many cases - because often females are used as tools to beguile, to manipulate, to entice and to corrupt the opposite sex. This situation also exists in the astral world.

The Anunnaki "spirits" control the astral world just as they control the physical world.
 
The Anunnaki Elite serve the evil lords of karma. They are the beings who play a major role in the administration of karma in the astral world. While it appears that the hierarchy of the "heavenly" government is run according to the advancement of souls, the truth is that, like karma here, it is never justly meted out as it is falsely proclaimed. "Souls" are forced or coaxed into reincarnating while they appear to be given the free will to choose to incarnate or to remain in the astral world.

The karma operating in the astral world forces "souls" to reincarnate. The astral inhabitants are programmed to think that they have the choice of selecting their own parents, place, time and culture of birth. This is in appearance only. In truth, they are programmed to think that all is planned for the highest good of the "soul". What a big lie!

Just like in this physical world, there are also demons in the astral world who give false information about religion and spirituality.
 
There are those in this physical dimension who support and spread the same type of false information to lead people astray and to sidetrack the true searchers. These evil "teachers" in the astral as well as in the physical dimension are there to trap others with their lies. Thus, it is very difficult to break out of this tightly woven scam unless you do some serious thinking yourself instead of swallowing everything you are being told.

Under normal circumstances, no matter what explanations are given for the cause of one's suicide, ultimately suicide occurs because the victim has been influenced or programmed by unseen entities to take his/her life.
 
Then they are either punished or allowed to escape punishment according to the dictates of the despotic, evil astral controllers. That is why you get different reports about the consequences of suicide from the astral world.

Remember one important point:
To break the bondage of karma here and in the astral, you should not accept karma.
 
Instead, you should do what your heart or your essence
feels right about at any particular time.
 

The astral planes are now breaking down and more and more of the barriers between this world and the astral are thinning out.
 
This makes it easier for the astral beings to mingle and to communicate with the beings on this plane.

The viables who are now in the astral world will not be forced to re-incarnate because they have already been rescued from the evil wheel of karma. However, they still must wait to be picked up or transported out of this evil dimension.
 
They are basically in a half-way house where they are being healed and readied for their eventual pick up by the Light and finally taken Home.

In this lifetime, some of you will be transformed into the Light without being forced to return to the astral because the astral may not be there by the time you make your exit out of here. Instead, you will be on your way home without any "stopovers" - what a beautiful one-way ticket HOME.

May you be amongst the fortunate ones...
 


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Mysticknowflake
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posted June 15, 2011 02:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mysticknowflake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted June 15, 2011 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where is this article from may i know?

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iQ
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posted June 15, 2011 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting view point. The Energy of the article was a lot like the articles of Dr. Chiappalone, a Gnostic.

Multi-Dimensional Beings like Humans can tackle any Karmic Debt by using Release work and Unconditional Forgiveness, as well as sending unconditional Love energy to anyone and everyone. When we are aware of karma, we can help the disabled whilst maintaining awareness that you are doing so purely for God's sake. This is a secret taught by Krishna for liberation. Do your duty and send the results to God.

The Astral world is also quite complex, yes there is some complex Astral Plane Karma as well but there are many levels here. It is the Lower Astral where karmic debts take their toll, where false teachers pretend to be light beings, use glamour to deceive etc.


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iQ
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posted June 15, 2011 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have always wondered. What do those who go into the Light after escaping everything: Earth, Astral Planes etc, do?

Flipping through the pages of one of the best books in our dimension, "Convoluted Universe Part 2" by Dolores Canon, I read about a regression of a Soul who spent 100,000 years of accumulated lifelines on Earth as a project for his Planet in some far off galaxy or even different dimension.

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posted June 15, 2011 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for emitres     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SilverStone:

 
Astral beings are forced to re-incarnate again and again for reasons that are based upon lies.  
 

if you can share, i would be interested in knowing what these reasons are...

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" Some define good as that which preserves, and evil as that which destroys; but destruction can be cleansing and purifying, for there is such a thing in both men and races as spiritual constipation, which comes from too much preservation of the status quo." ( Dion Fortune )

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posted June 15, 2011 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverStone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't know where it's from, but I'll ck with my friend who sent it to me. My thoughts are these: I have always known that the astral plane is Evil and deceitful, for the most part. The answer is Hyperspace, which goes beyond the astral- hyperspace is where the true information lies. They are in a way, however, In the article above, confusing the subject of Karma with the astral to justify that Karma doesn't exist! It's true that it's about the "NOW" and the desicions that we make. Even in the universal laws of karma, it's about coming full circle with love and acceptance, which many do not see... Sometimes we just have to wait for others to see it,

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posted June 15, 2011 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverStone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here it is.  It is in this article a little ways down.
I think a lot of it is BS... http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/mistic/karma.htm

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iQ
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posted June 16, 2011 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was nearly correct,
Amitakh is Dr. Chiappalone's ex-wife

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posted June 16, 2011 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
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Multi-Dimensional Beings like Humans can tackle any Karmic Debt by using Release work and Unconditional Forgiveness, as well as sending unconditional Love energy to anyone and everyone. When we are aware of karma, we can help the disabled whilst maintaining awareness that you are doing so purely for God's sake. This is a secret taught by Krishna for liberation. Do your duty and send the results to God.

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You said it. Just what i had on mind.... Fruits of karma to GOD. There it is in a nutshell. Though ofcourse it takes a lot of practice to do this. And a lot of grit too. To do it consistently is a challenge.

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posted August 12, 2011 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for piscespeach     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was an interesting read. I get the sense that the writer has blended truths with deception here. I can't get a feel for whether or not it is intentional. But when I got to this quote:

"Take for instance, many of the female politicians who are far worse than their male counter-parts, given the same situations. This is mainly due to the fact that more of the "demonic consciousnesses" are placed in female bodies, far more than in the male bodies. No wonder women are often looked upon with suspicion and scorn - and rightly so in many cases - because often females are used as tools to beguile, to manipulate, to entice and to corrupt the opposite sex. This situation also exists in the astral world."

I decided that whether the writer was intentionally or unintentionally using deception, mattered little. People, period, have the propensity to "beguile, manipulate, entice, and corrupt" other people. This philosophy that this is inherent to women has been used in patriarchal societies to oppress and spiritually annihilate feminine energy and the balance of masculine and feminine in the universe. I believe that is evil on its face. I feel sorry for the writer if he or she believes that--and if they are spreading that wickedness intentionally, then may they continue to suffer from the Karma they are creating with that action. It is destructive and wrong.

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