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posted November 18, 2011 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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P.S. I may even be interested in speaking, if such an opportunity should present itself.

Aselzion, I will hold you to that and you will have the opportunity!

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posted November 18, 2011 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are just in the planning stages at the moment, but speaking will definitely be a great way to promote yourself. I can see you doing a panel on some of your original astrological ideas; you would pack the room.

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posted November 18, 2011 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greetings...

I would welcome the opportunity to talk about Astrology, Linda, Tarot.. whatever you need.

If you think people would be interested in my ideas about the Inconjunct and the Planetary Rulerships I would love to talk about that. Though my thoughts are "controversial" I believe they are grounded in Tradition, what I call the Basics and some more Esoteric/Metaphysical approaches than I have seen published to date.

Keep me in the loop for sure!

In the Light...

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posted November 19, 2011 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will do!

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posted November 19, 2011 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emeraldopal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A Probability is limitless!

The Creation is the Great Work. ...

and..if you fail to plan, you
plan to fail..I have no idea who
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posted November 20, 2011 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shankara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Before I moved to Florida a few months ago, I lived about an hour from Lily Dale, and ever since I was about 12 I'd visit at least once every summer. I loved it! I've gone for maybe 4 readings, and two were terrible, I must admit. The others were good, but expensive (and now she charges much more). My mom's friend lives there (she's not a registered medium though), but she says her neighbor, George Kincaid, is good and only charges $40, which is cheap for Lily Dale. I cannot personally recommend him though.

Normally I just go and walk the grounds, go to the free services, shop, and sit on the rocking chairs on the hotel porch. To me it feels like your going back in time, which is fun. It feels very tranquil and relaxing to me. It's also nostalgic to me as it's past of my youth. I've heard from people who live there that it is very political, and I do know the money plays a big role for SOME of the mediums.

I attended to Spiritualist church for a while, part of the National Association of Spiritualist Churches, and though it was interesting, for me it seemed that the end goal was proving continuity of life. OK...so? We don't die, the living can communicate with the soul-called dead...and? In my opinion that had nothing much to do with spiritual evolution, so I moved on.

And now for some controversy: I moved on to a spiritual/occult order, headquartered a few hours from where I currently live. The order is run by two Hierophants and Magicians, both in Gnosis, one the reincarnation of Samuel Mathers, and the other of Aleister Crowley. I'm not going to link to the order as they do NOT publicize this information, even to newer students, I only know through intuition and because my friend, who is a senior student, verified it for me. The order is not dark or Satanic in the least, but in fact emphasizes overcoming vices, building your character, and maintaing a consistent meditative routine, all leading to union with God.

From personal experiences, such as visits from my Teachers in meditation, dreams, and visions, as well as staying at their house and receiving a transmission (partial Shaktipat) from them, my conclusion is that they are legit teachers of a true initiatic lineage. It's funny because I was never interested in Crowley, the OTO, or the Golden Dawn before (I only heard Crowley was evil and believed it because I didn't know any better), but true Teachers call you back to them when the time is right. I had been a student of spirituality (mainly Hinduism and Vedanta) for well over a decade, but nothing has affected me as deeply as this. They have truly changed my life for the better in the last year, and I am nothing but humbled and grateful.

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posted November 20, 2011 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shankara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd also say that I feel a lot of people in the New Age movements are 'frauds' in the sense that they charge a LOT of money, whether it be for readings or workshops/classes, all for fluffy and shallow information that does nothing to help in the advancement of the soul, much less in the realization of Gnosis. Classes at Lily Dale are no exception for the most part, though they're not THAT much money compared to others out there.

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posted November 21, 2011 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Shankara:
I'd also say that I feel a lot of people in the New Age movements are 'frauds' in the sense that they charge a LOT of money, whether it be for readings or workshops/classes, all for fluffy and shallow information that does nothing to help in the advancement of the soul, much less in the realization of Gnosis. Classes at Lily Dale are no exception for the most part, though they're not THAT much money compared to others out there.


That has been my personal experience to date with such people.

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posted November 21, 2011 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Agent_009:
Hi LEXX,

Hello Agent_009

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Originally posted by LEXX:
Forgive me but I want nothing more to do with Lily Dalers.

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Originally posted by Agent_009:
~ That's alright, to each their own. However, you know, Lily Dale isnt only a place of mediums & psychics. It's a learning center & many Energy healers live or go there. They have a local Energy Healing Temple, where all the healers offer the public free sessions, twice a day--in the morning & evening. I took part with that, it was pretty great.
I imagine there is something good there or it would not be popular.

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Originally posted by LEXX:
Another popular one thinks she is speaking with some guides.

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~ Just curious, but you don't think psychics/mediums speak with guides? In your opinion when people get psychic information, what source do you believe it comes from?

Some might be talking to some discarnates who are ethical and do have a clue. As to guides, angelics are generally grand deceivers, and some so called guides are oooh ahhh showy flattering frauds, just busy body dead folk interfering with the living.
Where do real psychics and mediums get their info?
From god via our meta soul, from discarnates who are not unethical, from remote viewing, trance state including remote viewing and OBE....etc.
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Originally posted by LEXX:
So much is intentionally fake to rook folks but some is just the so called medium misinterpreting where from and what they are getting.

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Originally posted by Agent_009:
I'm confused. Are you saying psychics are fake in general?
As for, "misinterpreting," the info from which source...but why does it matter? As long as they're receiving info of a positive, helpful nature...isnt that more important?

I'm just asking, cuz I'd like to better understand your view point. =)



No, I am saying most are unfortunately misguided, or misinterpreting, or worse, totally faking it for the attention and money.
And no, if the information is fake, then no matter what, it is unethical and could due to its too often happy happy joy joy feel, send folks off skipping merrily down a wrong path because "oooh ahhh my psychic told me".

My mother is a very good psychic but she misinterprets terribly because of her heavily flavoring her interpretations of her dreams and visions with her rabid Christian beliefs.
Like this:
She said the man I was living with was a warlock and had glowing red eyes dressed all in black, and was with witches in a woods with fires and screaming.
She said he was a fake, like an actor in some play and not real.
I laughed my butt off!
He was at that time just finishing up with playing a warlock onstage in the play "Bell, Book, and Candle.
Then he worked for a haunted hayride and wore all black including his face and had red LED eyes on the hood mask.
There were vampires and pyrotechnic scenes with live actors including real fires and screaming witches.

So yeah,
she picked it all up but totally screwed up the interpretations of it all.

By the way, I was born psychic and more, but share little of that here at LL, or with the general public, preferring to use it to work on serious things by usually private referral and not for fluff questions such as "who should I take to the prom"....yadda yadda yadda.

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I must perhaps resign myself to having only stolen and brief tastes of happiness,
for it appears that I may never be invited to the feasts.
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The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. What is called resignation is confirmed desperation A stereotyped but unconscious despair is concealed even under what are called the games and amusements of mankind.
~Henry David Thoreau

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posted November 25, 2011 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for responding.

She ended up not going with the reading, because she missed the fact that his assistant had called her back and left a message, asking her to call another number, so that she could ask a few questions (pre- potential reading). We went to see a woman who works with all sorts of methods, to talk a couple of weeks ago (and then I saw her for hypnosis last Sunday), and she has been to Lily Dale several times. She seemed very nice, friendly, and sincere.

I am wary of most people when it comes to this. She wanted to ask this person if they could tell me anything similar to what I might be told by someone who was listed in the book, "Your Soul's Plan,"; I'd wanted a reading, sometime soon and whenever possible, with one woman mentioned in there, only to find that she charges at least $600. (!) More, if the session goes on longer. I know they have to make a living, too, but I just don't have that kind of money.

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posted November 25, 2011 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Shankara:
I'd also say that I feel a lot of people in the New Age movements are 'frauds' in the sense that they charge a LOT of money, whether it be for readings or workshops/classes, all for fluffy and shallow information that does nothing to help in the advancement of the soul, much less in the realization of Gnosis. Classes at Lily Dale are no exception for the most part, though they're not THAT much money compared to others out there.


Thank you for your posts.

This is what I was concerned about with this man, and with the women who were listed in the book I mentioned. I wanted to know something, but I also realized that they could just sit there, take in what they've been told about the situation/problem you want to know about, and string some sort of story around it, to make it sound all nice and acceptable, and how it fits into life. If they could come up with things, without needing for you to mention anything more than an age + location and the year you were born (meaning, search the Akashic Records and find the "planning session" relevant to certain parts of the life being asked about), then that would be one thing, but they ask you to tell them about what's concerning you... Mum was hoping to find someone cheaper, but I'd told her not to go for it, unless she would be speaking to this man for herself and everyone else, because I didn't need that amount of money spent again if it wasn't going to actually *help* me. Just vague answers, that could be given to anyone.

I've been obsessed with past lives for two years now, but have now had two readings, and barely got anything from either one. I'm going to practice with the CD that the hypnotherapist sent home with me - and try to remember to do it when I'm awake (although I fell asleep listening to her CD's, and woke up feeling incredibly relaxed). I keep looking for practical, and running into woo-woo or semi-woo treatments/experiences instead. My mother tells me that I'm not crazy (when it comes to mentioning regular therapy), but I finally had to just tell her that it isn't about going because you feel crazy, it's going to stop it from happening, and I'm not feeling even worse than I was earlier this year, only more resigned than jumpy, and more ready to argue. That isn't progress.

(I will delete this later, because my mother was only trying to help me. I don't even know if regular therapy will do anything for me now, when it comes down to anything more than giving me pills, because I know why I'm depressed, and I know that I pick up emotions from others, so that gets me down, too - but I'm getting really good at pushing people away).

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posted November 26, 2011 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't recall anything about past lives.

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posted November 26, 2011 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lexx,

Thanks for replying.
Yes, I know that you're psychic, as many of us are...but just in different stages of development. I see what you're saying about misinterpretations & how some, whether discarnates or incarnates who abuse the usage thru remote viewing & OBE's. I've come across individuals like that before.
I agree fully in that information does come from our higher soul/god aspect. However I have also received a lot of positive guidance from discarnates as well. Actually that guidance is usually focused on helping me tap into my higher soul aspects.
I also believe that people like your mother, needs to put things out there in order to hone their skills. There's no way around that one. However I believe that perhaps people shouldnt charge unless they've gotten to a pretty good degree of skill level. I also believe that people seeking readings shouldnt take everything they're getting as 100% truth...As freewill does change the outcome & only take the info presented if it feels right to your soul. That's why I won't judge harshly on psychics in general, unless they're actions have proved unethical. It's a 2-way street, both psychis & clients should take responsibility for their own actions/beliefs.

[ " As to guides, angelics are generally grand deceivers " ]

~Would you please explain why Angelics are grand deceivers? So are there no good angelic beings in your opinion?? What about the core angelics mentioned in the bible?

P.S. Lexx, I will send you healing energy...have gleaned that you have some health issues.

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PS. Lily Dale isnt that shady healing center I've mentioned to you in that email...(incase you thought it's the same one).

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Teasel,
I'm not sure of your whole situation. However it seems you're trying hard to fix it by tapping into your past lives. In my own journey so far, I've gotten the best answers/solutions by going within, instead of outwards. My suggestion to you is to focus working on tapping into your higher soul, instead of seeking answers from psychics etc who charge a lot. I've found that the higher soul will reveal info when the time is right. You'll either remember bits of your past lives related to your problem in dreams,...or you'll be guided by spirit/higher soul to meet the right people who are able to help you in some way. I've found that usually the people who really have answers for me, offer their services free or at a lower cost. Often times I accidentally stumble across these folks (without looking), or even they find me. Usually we end up becoming good friends too. That's when I know that it's meant to be. However, I want to point out that, everything didnt just fall into my lap. I put a lot of effort & work FIRST, with tapping into my higher soul for the rest to domino into place.

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posted November 27, 2011 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im pretty sure Lexx has posted alot about said Angelics over on Divine Diversities ~ http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Divine+Diversities&number=21

I think too she mentions in the Pleidies thread on this forums how they are in fact one of the same Pleiadians/Angelics, based on her experience that is -nods-

The Pleiades's ~ http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/002287.html

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posted May 01, 2016 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought I'd asked about Lily Dale in 2013, I remember reading a book about it in March of that year. It was one of those days where we'd been out in the rain, visiting a bookstore, and picking up our cat, who had just been neutered. I came home and was reading the book, feeling all cozy (for a change, at the time), in the living room.

I'm bumping this, because the documentary about them is online. I've just started it.
http://www.cultureunplugged.com/documentary/watch-online/play/50356/No-One-Dies-in -Lily-Dale

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Wow, it's also sad looking back, and remembering that I was feeling just the same at that time - 4-1/2 years ago. I was very depressed, but I had no idea what would start less than two weeks later. I felt my hope coming back in a big way, just before my birthday in 2012, but that was thoroughly squashed.

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We're going to Lily Dale on Saturday, to see James van Praagh. I had wanted to take Mum.

I thought we had to be there by 9:30am, but it turns out that they have something like 800 people showing up, so they recommend being there at 7am. That means leaving the house before 4am. I don't know how we're going to do this.

I'm having more trouble getting up every day, but as I was curled up here, feeling depressed and ****** off, I had the word "mugwumps" come into my head. That's what mum used to call us, if we were pouting. Shock is wearing off, and reality setting in.

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posted August 05, 2016 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let us know how it goes.

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posted August 06, 2016 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like him from what I've seen of him on tv.

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posted August 07, 2016 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How did it go meeting him?

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I didn't meet him. They reckoned there were 800 people there, but I don't think there were that many. He did about eight readings, after talking a lot (too much), and answering questions that have been answered in books and on television, over and over throughout the years.

I left less of a fan than I was when I arrived. I thought he was rude to one woman (his response was unnecessary). I might get into it more tomorrow.

I didn't have much time to explore the rest of the place, but I don't think I'll be going back. I couldn't afford a private reading with anyone, maybe I would have been more impressed if I had. I was also really disappointed that I wasn't called on. Maybe it was too soon, since I can't even say, a lot of the time, that I've lost her. I'm in denial a lot of the time.

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posted August 08, 2016 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry.

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posted August 09, 2016 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't trust readers who charge a lot of money.

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posted August 10, 2016 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wonder what happened to John Edward?

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I have one of his books!

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