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Hera
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posted November 12, 2011 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't use to believe in it, but too much has happened for me to ignore it. Several people have told me I have spells done by people, I don't know if they saw it my aura or what, but in the last few years it's all I hear about. And I've had a couple of hard years, starting with 2006-2007, with bad luck especially in romance department. This year only 4 different men proposed to me or talked about getting married. 2 of them disappeared into thin air, one stood me up on Valentine's day then came up with a lame excuse and my ex boyfriend bought a ring for me, only to find his ex girlfriend pop up 6 months pregnant with his child.

Honestly, I've had enough and I want it to stop. Whatever I did, I believe I have paid more than enough. My eyes are dry already, I don't have any more tears in me. I'm on antidepressants and sleeping pills. Enough already!

What can I do to make it stop?

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Hera
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posted November 12, 2011 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I'm born on a 4th, in the 4th month of the year. Yes, I have DC ruler conjunct SN on 12H cusp...

But haven't I paid enough already? When will it stop? When will it be enough? I came close to ending my life 2 weeks ago. It's just not worth living like this.

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iQ
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posted November 25, 2011 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Send me your natal information, I will have a look at the transits and we can try to identify any harsh long term transit. I can also check the Vedic Directions chart to see if you are stuck in a Saturn Period.
Black Magic susceptibility can be detected through Asteroids.

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Hera
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posted November 25, 2011 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you still have the same email address? We coresponded a bit in 2007, I was Izo back then

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posted November 28, 2011 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are on FB, just message me your data again. I can assure you that there was nothing to indicate Astral mischief in your life in 2007.

I am suspecting a difficult Vedic "Dasha" series coupled with difficult transits. If you have a Libra or Scorpio Moon, things are a bit tough due to the Saturn 7 Cycle shaping up. And we can never rule out ill effects from a harsh Pluto Transit.

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posted November 28, 2011 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hera
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posted November 28, 2011 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
We are on FB, just message me your data again. I can assure you that there was nothing to indicate Astral mischief in your life in 2007.

I am suspecting a difficult Vedic "Dasha" series coupled with difficult transits. If you have a Libra or Scorpio Moon, things are a bit tough due to the Saturn 7 Cycle shaping up. And we can never rule out ill effects from a harsh Pluto Transit.


In 2006-2007, when my dark period started, I was indeed having a harsh Pluto transit - conjunct Moon (DC ruler) and Neptune, as well as South Node. Soon after that, Pluto went into my 12th house where it is now residing and will be for quite some time - so black magic could be an issue, from hidden enemies. I have late Sag Moon (29 deg). I will message you my birth data on FB. I don't know much Vedic, I think I am currently in the Sun Dasha... (if I have done the calculations right lol)

Thank you for taking a look!

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posted November 29, 2011 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hera,

"Black Magic," is really nothing more than manipulation of negative entities or negative energy for selfish reasons. The mildest forms being jealousy towards another, & going upwards on the scale to demonic possession at it's worst.

I work with energy & I have to say...

[" Several people have told me I have spells done by people, I don't know if they saw it my aura or what"]

~First off, WHO are these people who tell you this?? I usually have a feeling/hunch about someone's situation, but even then I dont want to, "diagnose." I'm not at that caliber yet, but I will be one day. A mis-diagnosis can freak out someone, & put "bad law of attraction," to work. Energy work is just so complicated, I find many so called Reiki Masters havent a clue what a problem is 80% of the time.
~Yes it is possible to see or feel holes in your aura. That's when you become prone to psychic attacks, stray entities clinging onto you via those holes. OR in the case of so called black magic, someone sending entities to hit on you. YES, you can also psychic attack yourself by an overload of negative thoughts, or overdose of fear & paranoia.

Like I said, I dont want to, "diagnose," however I'm not picking up the sense someone is proactively putting a curse on you. If they were, all your dominoes would go down at once. It wouldnt only be your love life that's affected...trust me. Things like your internet, electronics, anything that receives energy frequencies would be first to crap out. Even if someone put a curse on you, you dont have to be "under," it (if you know what I mean). Out of sight, out of mind.
If anything, you're psychic attacking yourself by simmering in so much negative thought energy. I dont even think you have an established vector on you...altho I cant say for sure at this point. (Vectors are energetically much worse than cords).
I'm getting the sense this has more to do with your own karma--that you're not dealing with. The lesson keeps reoccurring because you're neglecting it. Energy (you) attracts like-energy (them). You have self-issues to confront & understand why you keep picking these certain types of guys who leave you hanging high & dry.

Even you acknowledge your born on 4.4....4 & 8 people have a tendency to repeat mistakes over without learning the lesson.

What you can do is, ultimately re-structure your own energy from little things to the core.
Smaller things like meditation to ground yourself (less likely to have negative thoughts), which then re-aligns your energy centers (chakras) so you're less likely to have holes in your auric field. Things like tree hugging is instantly grounding, as well as sea-salt baths.
Then onto bigger things, of really understanding your self-motives. Start journaling to track & understand why you are drawn to guys XYZ, red flags, & why they dont work for you. If you're not that good at self-analysis, a therapist would really help at this point.

Anyways, as for black magic/curses, or lesser forms of psychic attacks like hate/jealousy coming from someone. Seriously, "OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF MIND," really does work. Of course with heavy duty psychic attacks, then energy removal like Advanced Recapitulation would be needed. Immediately after that, one needs to practice "out of sight, out of mind," or else you're just asking to be re-corded again.

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iQ
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posted December 02, 2011 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very good post Agent!

I did analyze Hera's chart, there is Auric Susceptibility plus the harsh transit is not over.

Yet, she also has the resources to pull off a victory against any challenge.

Vedic Dashas are absolutely fine though, it it the period of the Sun but Sun is the 8th Lord in the Dasha Charts so karmic debts are at play very strongly since 2007.

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Randall
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posted December 03, 2011 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Black magic always returns to the sender, as does ill wishes of any sort.

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Hera
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posted December 04, 2011 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, IQ and Agent_009!

I didn't use to believe in it. I thought as you said "out of sight, out of mind"... But the bad luck kept repeating over and over again. It culminated with my ex... and that almost was the death of me. People have seen it when reading my coffee cups, my cards and at one time a Romany gypsy approached me and said I have been cursed by two women, mother and daughter, which confirmed my suspicions on their identity.

IQ, may I ask how long will this karmic payback going to last?

I do think I may be close to the finish line, I think I can feel it. I don't think I can go lower than I did a month ago, on the verge of suicide.
Oddly, the woman I think was responsible for the black magic (if there is any indeed) recently reappered in my life, requesting my friendship on FB. On FB there was a similar profile to mine, with my name and my picture, but wasn't created by me. My real profile is the one we're connected through. After she came back, I searched my name on FB and the only profile was the authentic one... she or the ones working for her deleted the other one. I also have the same problem with hi5... there is a profile there, with my real name and real picture, that I didn't create. That one is still there. But the fact that my fake FB profile disappeared after she approached me confirmed my suspicion that she was behind all this. That profile was up for about a year, I contacted FB team but they didn't take any action. Now it is gone. I don't believe in coincidences. This woman wants to meet with me, I intend to do that and ask her upfront about it. At least I want to know the truth. She might be innocent in all this, but she has a mean sister and mother. Her mother used to go to witches on a regular basis and when I was friends with her daughters, she advised them to give their men menstrual blood if they want to keep them. The mother has done that and more to keep her cheating husband by her side. She is a mean and unscrupulous woman and if there was black magic done to me, I am sure she was the one who did it, perhaps working with the other daughter who always envied me for my friendship with her sister.

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posted December 06, 2011 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hera,

The fact your coming back with all these, "but this & that reasons," tells me you dont really understand my last post. Please read it over & over again carefully.

["I thought as you said "out of sight, out of mind"]
~ clearly no. Real out of sight/out of mind takes focus similar to meditation. You have to try really hard not to think about said situations/persons. Clearly you werent practicing that, cuz every time a gypsy says something, you freak out all over again. Real focus means not giving a crap despite what others say, until the problem really goes away. However, I've been there done that myself & it is difficult. The better you are at meditation, the easier it is to practice real, "out of sight, out of mind."

["Romany gypsy approached me and said I have been cursed by two women"]
~ Like I said above, extreme jealousy & hate is sending someone negative energy chords, aka psychic attack. You can call that negative energy, curse/black magic...it's all the same. "Curse," just sounds a lot scarier.

["IQ, may I ask how long will this karmic payback going to last?"]
~ Karma will last until you have learnt that lesson. Otherwise it'll drag on, but you'll just feel it hit a lot harder during tougher transits.

["This woman wants to meet with me, I intend to do that and ask her upfront about it"]
~ Clearly not practicing out of sight, out of mind...or intending to meet up wont even cross your mind. FORGET IT!! Let her be. People can always send you lesser psychic attacks (anger, hate, jealousy) regardless if you engage or not. However when it comes to bigger psychic attacks, they cant get you unless you engage! It takes 2 to tango.

["The mother has done that and more to keep her cheating husband by her side."]
~ If you understood how energy works...you cannot MAKE someone do anything without their agreement. She could cast all the spells she wants but it wont make her husband stay if he doesnt want to. Usually what really happens is, they will threaten the victim. "If you dont do what I say, or if you walk away from GOD (some guru), bad things will fall upon you." Then they'll send bigger psychic attacks which is actually sending negative entities to hit on the victim. This causes weird stuff like hauntings, electronic crap outs, minor accidents to occur. Infact this is a classic trick gurus & cults pull. The victim gets so freaked out, they start adding onto the negativity by psychically attacking themselves. Which causes emotional instability, lack of confidence etc, which in turn affects & screws up their relationships. The victim then starts to think it's a curse put on their relationship,...or perhaps due to the lack of confidence, they attract another similar energy in a partner. It ends up becoming a vicious cycle.

In anycase, my advice to you is, if it means not being friends with the sister anymore, then so be it. If it's affecting your life that much, you have to rid everything related to them out of your life. Also, if you're not good at exercising your mind...there are other techniques that do help with lesser negative energy removals. Things like smudging actually works. Smudge yourself regularly using white sage & Sweet grass. Sweet grass apparently is the first & original grass on earth. The concept is similar to tree hugging. Trees effectively transmute negative energy. They recycle physical negative energy which is carbon dioxide. On a spiritual level, they recycle negative energy from your energetic body. Also we are all most vulnerable when we're sleeping. Get organic tabacco (must be organic) & sprinkle it in a circle around your bed going clockwise. Ask your guardian angels for protection at night. Also, keep in mind LOVE is the most powerful energetic vibration of all. Constantly send out love to anyone who is being negative towards you. The energy of love actually repels negative lower energies. Imagine pink flowing light energy or pink hearts etc going out to them, (when you're freaked out), but immediately revert back to out of mind after doing so.

Most of all, keep in mind, if someone ever really sends a harsh nasty curse towards you...whenever you THINK about it & especially FEAR it, it empowers lower energy more. Fearing it basically gives them consent from you. That's law of attraction working backwards saying yes they are welcome, yes you can be harmed, so yes that's why you're afraid.


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posted December 06, 2011 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Agent!

I am not good at meditation, I tried it a bit in 2007, but I don't practice it often. I try to send out love and positive energy even to the ones that harm me... that I have tried. I will try hugging a tree too.

I am afraid at times... because it all seems so out of my hands and hard to accept. I've had electronics do a number on me since 2007. My laptop frequently blacks out, took it to service and said it's nothing wrong with it. Reformated it and still blacks out. My microwave oven almost blasted earlier this year. Sometimes I hear weird noises in my house (I live alone) or feel a strange presence with me. It's scary sometimes but I try (to the best I can) to keep to the "out of sight, out of mind" at least in some circumstances.

I have cut the sister out of my life and her whole family back in 2007, recently cut the reason behind it (a man) out of my life too. But she keeps on coming... Now she requested my friendship on FB, I didn't search for her, she searched for me. I do want to meet with her, part from curiosity, part from my need to ask for forgiveness. I have been living with this guilt on my back since then and I need to be released from it.

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posted December 15, 2011 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted December 15, 2011 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
Thank you, Agent!

I am not good at meditation, I tried it a bit in 2007, but I don't practice it often. I try to send out love and positive energy even to the ones that harm me... that I have tried. I will try hugging a tree too.

I am afraid at times... because it all seems so out of my hands and hard to accept. I've had electronics do a number on me since 2007. My laptop frequently blacks out, took it to service and said it's nothing wrong with it. Reformated it and still blacks out. My microwave oven almost blasted earlier this year. Sometimes I hear weird noises in my house (I live alone) or feel a strange presence with me. It's scary sometimes but I try (to the best I can) to keep to the "out of sight, out of mind" at least in some circumstances.

I have cut the sister out of my life and her whole family back in 2007, recently cut the reason behind it (a man) out of my life too. But she keeps on coming... Now she requested my friendship on FB, I didn't search for her, she searched for me. I do want to meet with her, part from curiosity, part from my need to ask for forgiveness. I have been living with this guilt on my back since then and I need to be released from it.


Don't go meet her. All she'll do is use it as an opportunity to try and play with your head, and she'll get off on you giving her the attention anyway. Don't keep exposing yourself to her negativity.

Just cut all ties to that family and stop communicating with any of them in any way shape or form, and ask God to look over you and protect you. It works, even if you think it won't. You'll be surprised. I'd read up on how to shield and protect yourself, visualization type stuff and it was something that never worked for me until I just asked God to do it.

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posted December 16, 2011 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good advice from Agent and BP.

Hera,
Avoid meeting this person. I know about the kind of magic done by those who play with menstrual blood, that has been happening for ages in India as well.

You can defeat this very quickly by sea salt baths, grounding exercises and intense protective visualizations through devoted invocation of the Universal God. You can also cut the "psychic cords" with which negativity is sent by forgiving these monsters. They cannot take the Light of Love and Forgiveness. These are the best weapons.

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posted December 17, 2011 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 17, 2011 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What iQ said. Loving your enemies is like pouring hot coals upon their heads.

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