posted December 15, 2011 06:17 PM            

"your right, the Earths Pole's will flux and transverse soon, known as the Passover, as the transverse process also effect's both hemisphere's of the human brain, as blood not only contains oxygen, it also has a posatie and negative charge, so when the Pole transverse occures, people by the millions will drop dead in the streets, millions will be zombied, and only those with a fully active pineal gland will make the Passover... hope you understand what I'm talking about? $ $ "

posted December 16, 2011 03:21 AM            

Nokia is not going to create 7 million premium Vertu Phones and crush 99% of them.
Likewise, the controllers of this Solar System and Planet are not going to allow more than 6 billion humans to perish so easily. They spent millions of years in the process of building up this population with so much genetic diversity and will want to extract millions of years of benefit from this huge effort.

Let's say there are no global handlers.
In that case, Right Minded people should think, if there is a chance for billions to die off, what steps can be taken to prevent that from happening.

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posted December 16, 2011 04:57 AM            

Seems a bit unfair considering there are so many paths to 'enlightenment', and very little in the way of genuine 'instruction'.

Plus, if we put karma into the situation, that would wipe out most of the human race, considering pretty much everyone is considered to have racked up plenty negative karma from past and present lives.

And again, with karma, there is very little 'instruction' on how it actually works - well, there are many 'theories', but no guide to knowing what is true and what isn't.

All these theories about the evolved 'ascending' and others being left behind just make me sad.
There are many good and honest people in the world, who do much for the human race, yet wouldn't be considered 'evolved', so how can it ever be fair or logical to let them die off.
And for what purpose?
Where are all these superior beings going?
And how is human life so disposable?
And who decides when a human has had long enough to grow?

Ach, all these subjects leave me with more questions than answers.

I like the thought of another more evolved race being out there, because we could (or maybe we already do) learn so much from them, and it gives point to our lessons here on earth.

There is so much pain and suffering in life for many of us, that it's a beautiful and inspiring thought that it's not all random, or has no purpose, but there is no clear way to identify said purpose.
You have to either buy into someone else's or make your own, and you have to believe it with your whole being, oftwn without solid, testable proof, which can be very hard considering just how painful life can be.

So then you have people who can't believe because they have been hurt so much, so they get punished further by being left behind - how can that be right? How can that be the actions of an advanced race?
Or those who do much good all their lives, yet haven't found reason to believe in 'enlightenment', how can it be right that they get punished by being left behind, when they have possibly done more for the human race than many who are 'evolved'?

The only way round this conundrum that I have found, is to find what you love that creates more love in the world. Sounds simple, but it took me 27 years to discover my own. If you are including past lives, which I'm not sure I believe in yet, it could have taken thousands of years.
But that is the only way I can see to give purpose to your life in the face of so many options and obstacles - do something you love that has the countereffect of creating more love in the world.

Even though I have limited understanding of it, because it means so many things to so many different people, I take 'evolved' to be a state of mind, yet that is no guarantee it leads to actions that benefit anyone but the self.

So, would advanced races take selfish, yet evolved, over selfless and unevolved?
That is not "advanced" by any definition.

posted December 16, 2011 02:02 PM            

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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:
Exactly. You've basically said a lot of what my whole issue is with New-Age spirituality and all the ascension theories is in the first place.

I've flat out told people before that if that's how things are then I don't want to ascend and I want to die with the ones that don't.

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posted December 16, 2011 11:25 PM            

Hence when we die our consciousness lives on, is just our bodies that die. We die and our consciousness and energy lives on.

Information cannot be destroyed.

If karma exists then it is eliminated with unconditional love and if ascension is true then one ascends after mastering unconditional love and hence eliminating one's personal karma this way.

If reincarnation exists then I really hope we do ascend if we are spiritually evolve enough at some point bc otherwise that means we are stuck here and just keep coming back over and over again possibly living the same life over and over again stuck in a loop.

If reincarnation does not exist then we live one life and then we die and that is it but since information cannot be destroyed our consciousness lives on so is hard for me to believe that we live and die and that is it.

posted December 17, 2011 06:16 AM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
I dont know for sure if we ascend or not but if we do ascend the people that don't ascend wouldn't die off as nothing can be destroyed, just transformed.

Hence when we die our consciousness lives on, is just our bodies that die. We die and our consciousness and energy lives on.

Information cannot be destroyed.

If karma exists then it is eliminated with unconditional love and if ascension is true then one ascends after mastering unconditional love and hence eliminating one's personal karma this way.

If reincarnation exists then I really hope we do ascend if we are spiritually evolve enough at some point bc otherwise that means we are stuck here and just keep coming back over and over again possibly living the same life over and over again stuck in a loop.

If reincarnation does not exist then we live one life and then we die and that is it but since information cannot be destroyed our consciousness lives on so is hard for me to believe that we live and die and that is it.

The pineal gland is activated after 49 days of been in the womb, at birth, during REM sleep and at death. The pineal gland sounds like it can be the key to something. I dont know for sure but definitely am interested in the subject and want to look more into it.

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That's semantics BS though. I mean death in a literal sense. Which is what the theory is when you get a New-Ager to stop BSing about it long enough and just answer the question directly. It's always "Everyone who isn't as evolved as WE ARE, will die."

Saying 'no one really dies, energy just transforms' is just a way of trying to clean it up and 'soften' it.

We don't know for sure whether karma exists or not to state anything as fact, much less whether or not it can be eliminated, and if so, exactly HOW you do that. This stuff is all speculation.

Reincarnation is a crapshoot too but I kinda like the idea of it. And I have no problem with the idea that maybe we don't ascend because while life has it's bad parts, there's a lot of good in it too so I don't mind being 'stuck on a loop' and coming here over and over.

So - the pineal gland is an organ that only works about a month after you're born and right before you die and other than that, it pretty much just sits there and does nothing?

At this point I'm even more certain that new-agers have absolutely no idea what they're talking about and are just as in the dark as adherents of organized religions are. Only difference is, New-Agers are more arrogant and think they have everything figured out.

I'm always curious to look this type of stuff up though because I like to be aware of the things people are believing in, no matter how asinine I personally may find them.

posted December 17, 2011 10:20 AM            

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