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Topic: karmic enitities. taoistic temple. should I keep going there?
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pandacake
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From: Europe
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posted December 30, 2011 08:32 AM
  
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Agent_009
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From: Planet Shining
Registered: May 2009
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posted December 31, 2011 03:51 AM
Pandacake,So you keep saying you have bad feelings about this. You've already answered it for yourself. Why do you need further confirmation from others or, in this case it feels like permission to quit the club?? Then you're just handing your power over to others. Here's the thing, every organization or group in any religion/gurus/spiritual/mystic school/institution/financial corporation...doesnt matter, has good & bad. If fear or money seems to talk loudest within ANY group of people, then it is all ego & superficial. Quit that group & leave knowing that you've learnt a lesson of discernment. Have empathy for those people that they, "didnt know any better," & without them, you wouldnt have experienced such a lesson. Thank the overall situation that it has made you wiser, cuz you were there for a REASON. Dont hold any resentment, or biased judgement that Taoists or any group is bad. Like individual people, it really depends on the group. IP: Logged |
LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 31, 2011 04:15 AM
Trust your feelings pandacake 
It sounds to me that the place has been tainted by negative people and their resonances.
This unfortunately happens to many so called holy or sacred places.
People come and literally dump their psychic garbage and in time this negative echoes build up.
It is not you dear.
Also those people there do not sound very kind nor caring and definitely not enlightened.
As to revering ones ancestors.
Well based on my experience,
one is supposed to let go of them and allow them to move onto their next incarnation.
To "hold" onto them is like a hell, a prison often to out of body folks.
They cannot move on, they become stuck until the living ones holding them finally let go of them or die and that automatically releases them.
A soul is not supposed to hang out with the living, being at their beck and call.
It is supposed to move on.
Once a person dies, their former identity is a memory, they are no longer that identity, no longer grandmother or whomever.
They should be moving on to their next incarnation, where they may become your child, friend, or anyone anywhere on the planet.
Let them go and do so with love and blessings.
That is in my opinion the highest most unselfish way to revere ones ancestors.
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LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 31, 2011 04:18 AM
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~Be with someone who knows what they have when they have you ♥
~The present time is theirs, but the future is mine.~Никола Тесла
~I remember, therefore I am immortal~LEXX
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Mblake81
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From: Limbo, Hangin w/ Pit Demons & Alex Jones. :D
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 31, 2011 12:08 PM
Mr. Miyagi is a good fictional example of the kind of teacher to find. 
I never got into entities and ancestors with taoism. I was interested in the meat and bones mechanics just like I was in other disciplines. I thought If I could manage an understanding of how they all worked, then I would have something. Some underlying understanding of how this crazy old world was working. I have never sat and chanted, or prayed to idols of any sort. But this is my life, you may feel the need to where I did not. I found the wu-wei and the mushin mental activities fascinating. Any of the non-action materials really. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFods1KSWsQ I think they help a person to understand their own consciousness, and how to bring it into the middle. Between the left and right hemispheres of the brain. It sounds cliche but it is a space between spaces.  
Having some first hand experience with flow is good.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_%28psychology%29
Flow is the mental state of operation in which a person in an activity is fully immersed in a feeling of energized focus, full involvement, and success in the process of the activity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO0VLouJFNQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km_2JNlKVMI&feature=related IP: Logged |
Mblake81
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From: Limbo, Hangin w/ Pit Demons & Alex Jones. :D
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 31, 2011 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by pandacake:
The thing is, I'm terrified by those people. I notice they use fear to attract people. They say things like:
"He didn't come to this temple because of his bad karma"
"If you don't come here anymore, you'll taint your aura and back luck will follow."
"People die because of bad karma, coming here we'll protect you."
"Your aura is slightly better already but still not completely healed."
"Today you look worse again"
Everything feel institutionalized there. People there are dogmatic and give me an eerie feeling.
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pandacake
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From: Europe
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posted January 01, 2012 07:03 AM
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Randall
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posted January 01, 2012 05:35 PM
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iQ
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From: Chennai, India
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 04, 2012 12:38 PM
Very well written Lexx.IP: Logged |
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