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Jovian
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posted October 01, 2012 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A woman I've recently befriended shared this with me, after I kept interjecting the concept of past lives into our conversations (as I am wont to do)!

When she was about ten years old, she went with the Girl Scouts on an overnight trip. (She is 63 years old, so this would have been about 1959.) They stayed in a large house--what the girls perceived to appear as a mansion, as they first approached it. They were chatting amongst themselves of how palatial and elegant the inside must be, judging from how grand the outside was. But my friend, Donna, offered that it was not that way inside...that there were a bunch of bunk beds, and that she wanted a specific upper bunk that would allow her to look out the window.

Once they got inside and realized it was plain, and that there were indeed bunk beds on the second floor as Donna had said, they wondered how she had known this. She asked her mother, who had accompanied the troop, if she (Donna) had ever been to this place before, and her mother said she hadn't.

Later, they were scouting around the wooded area near the house, looking for firewood. All of a sudden, Donna says, "We have to go this way (diverting from the path they were on). I have to get a knife."

As naturally as can be, she goes to an area and pushes the leaves and debris around a bit with her foot, and there is a knife laying on the ground. ...Some of the disbelieving girls then claim that she must have planted it there beforehand, as a trick. At the time, she says it was just as natural as can be--she was just retrieving the knife she'd left there. She had no thought at the time of how it occurred. She has no sense of another past identity she may have been.

...I asked her if she still had the knife. She said that she probably does, as she's a pack rat. ...I asked her what it looked like, and she said it was red with a white cross. This of course made me think of a Swiss Army knife, of which I happened to have my own on my person at the time, so I showed it to her. She confirmed it was like that, indeed, "with a toothpick, and tweezers." She obviously has no experience with Swiss Army knives today, if she didn't even know to call such a very recognizable knife by its name.

Of course, one could say she was not necessarily tapping into a past life, by somehow psychically tuning in to the location of the knife. But with the recollection of the manor house, it is certainly more suggestive.

She remembers this place was in Ellicott City, Maryland, which is near the Baltimore/Washington DC area. This was about 1 1/2 hours from her family's home.

I tried to research briefly online (to get perhaps a sense of when the interior was presumably converted to this dormitory-like state--unless it was always like that), but to no avail. There are certainly older manor homes in that historic area, but none that I found to be tied to the Girl Scouts, nor to have been converted for simple lodging. There is a Girl Scout camp in that city, but I found no mention of a stately home on the property.

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Jovian
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posted October 01, 2012 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looking at the history of Swiss Army Knives...

Wikipedia article:

"According to Carl Elsener, head of Victorinox in 2009, U.S. soldiers bought Swiss Army knives in huge numbers at PX stores on military bases following the conclusion of the Second World War."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Army_knife


I was wondering if the knives back then would indeed have included toothpicks and tweezers...and it looks like they did!

http://victorinox.saam007.com/91mmtools.php

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posted October 02, 2012 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for luisbunuel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has she shown you the Swiss Army knife yet?

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Jovian
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posted October 08, 2012 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Luis. No. As I said, she thinks she probably has it, as she saves everything, but I didn't ask to see it as I assumed it would be quite a chore for her to dig through all her keepsakes or whatever. Also, she is somewhat disabled physically right now, so I think it would be asking a lot.

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posted October 08, 2012 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for luisbunuel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really liked this story. Okay, it's not really a story but you know what I mean...

My IC is in the 4th house and I really cling to the past, especially to the memories of old houses and towns, an unhealthy way to be but I wouldn't have it any other way!

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posted October 09, 2012 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Luis! Well, the IC is actually the angle that separates the 3rd and 4th houses. Do you know what sign it is in? Any planets in the 4th? Where is your Moon and what sign?

...I love old houses, too. Much prefer to live in them rather than a bland modern house. So much character and interest... due to the better craftsmanship of earlier days and from all the former life that occurred there through the years, presumably. Perhaps some of the houses and towns you are drawn to are similar to those of a pleasant lifetime from your past. ...That's why I assume I feel nostalgic about such places.

...Years ago I was living in New Jersey. I was feeling depressed at that time, and one day decided to just take a drive. I had no destination in mind, and just kept driving, turning wherever I felt compelled to. ...I came to an area in the country, in Pennsylvania, with rolling grass-covered hills, and stone houses and other farm houses...even a covered bridge. As I took a curve on a particular road, I suddenly burst into tears and had to pull over. I was overcome by the area, the joy in my heart from such surroundings clashing with the feeling of depression of my current life.

I continued to drive around and admire the old houses and farms. ...I later realized I was in the Lancaster County area, historically settled by Germans, later referred to as "Pennsylvania Dutch," including Amish, Mennonites and other "Plain People." ...I noticed the Dutch hexes on the barns, and recalled that my mother had one of these in the house (though we have no German ancestry) when I was younger, and that I'd always been drawn to it, and had bought one once for myself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hex_sign

I was compelled to divert a road trip to visit a restored Shaker village in Massachusetts once, even though it was almost closing time. I had seen a special on TV about this American religious sect--another group that had communities in the Northeast, and that shunned interaction with the rest of the world, in trying to create an ideal, utopian community. They are also known for their distinct furniture crafts. ...I felt a great sympathy and respect for how they had lived, as I toured the buildings.

My favorite show of all time, since I was a child, is probably Little House on the Prairie, about a tight-knit little community on the central plains in America, in the 1800's. More nostalgia!

So, Luis. ...I think if you look at all the pieces of things you have been drawn to, you can get clues to some of your past!

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posted October 10, 2012 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for luisbunuel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, I will try not to write off my unexplainable and instant likes and dislikes as 'just one of those things'! Oops, this reply actually belongs on your 'forest gnome' thread.

My IC is in Gemini. My moon is in Cancer in the 4th house. At zero degrees of Cancer actually.

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posted October 10, 2012 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for luisbunuel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PS You must like typing! Your posts are long....but I haven't spotted any typos!

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posted October 10, 2012 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh Luis. ...I just was inspired in the moment to share events that were strangely moving to me, for which I had no explanation, to hopefully get your mind opening in the same way to your own intuitive hints.

Looking for typos, eh? ...You got some Virgo in there as well?


Well- Moon in Cancer, in 4th! Hello! Attached to memories of the past/ home.

I have Moon in Cancer in 8th.

Any of this hit the spot for you?
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/mooninhouses.html

Moon in 4th House

"You long for a sense of true belonging, but you may be quite restless in your search. You might change residence frequently, or simply feel the need to make many changes in your home. Moving frequently may be a healthy thing if it keeps you emotionally stimulated, but if you find that you do so on whims and later regret the changes, you might want to treat it as a symptom of emotional unrest--as a sign that you are in a constant search for the perfect mood and setting, when in fact a feeling of belonging should be worked on from the inside out, not the outside in! Some of you might remain rather immature on an emotional level, never wanting to truly grow up and take care of yourself. Attachments to your past, traditions, and family are strong.

*You have strong attachments to your past, the place where you grew up, your heritage, and family traditions. In fact, you may be unable to step out of the habits and roles you learned as a child. Your tie to your mother is very strong and you also seek mothering and protection from your spouse and other family members as well."

http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/mooninsigns.html

Moon in Cancer

"This is the most subjective position of the Moon. The Moon is "at home" in the sign of Cancer, as the Moon is the natural ruler of the sign.

"Moon in Cancer natives have a large potential to be able to get in touch with the feelings and moods of others. Often, they are quite wrapped up in themselves. Their memories of the past are outstanding, especially for all things emotional. Moon in Cancer people are never detached -- they cling to things, their home, and people they care for. They seek out security and familiarity in all they do. They look for peace and quiet. Their attachment to all that is safe means they are a little leery of change.

"These peace-loving souls dislike superficiality in all of its forms. They are devoted and accommodating. The insecure ones accumulate things in an attempt to feel secure.

"Because of their strong attachment to, and memory of, the past, others may complain that Moon in Cancer natives tend to whip a dead horse. They may dwell on hurts long after everyone else has moved on. When they feel they have been taken for granted (which may be often!), they don't always confront others directly. This is when they can use roundabout ways to get your attention. In fact, these natives, when they are insecure, can become quite manipulative. They can also be victims of habit.

"These people can have a hard time compartmentalizing their lives, simply because their watery Moon tends to know no boundaries. Sometimes, as a result, they may act irrationally.

"One of the most delightful characteristics of Moon in Cancer people is their loony sense of humor. These people can be extraordinarily funny. Their moodiness can baffle others, but their unique outlook on life is something most people can appreciate.

"When treated with tenderness and understanding, Moon in Cancer natives return the favor with warmth and protection. Give them security, and you'll take the crabbiness out of the Crab, at least for awhile.

"These people are wonderfully dependable overall, despite their occasional mood swings. Make a friend of Moon in Cancer, and you will be taken care of for life. "

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posted October 11, 2012 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for luisbunuel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon in Cancer in the EIGHTH HOUSE!!!!!!!!
A Hades moon!

That is far more intense than a Cancer moon in the 4th!


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posted October 11, 2012 04:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for luisbunuel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've met 2 8th house mooners; they're very reluctant to fall in love. And they certainly know how to separate love and sex!


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posted October 11, 2012 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now WHY is this conversation turning to my love life? I've never heard that one before, regarding 8th Moons.

..But, INCIDENTALLY, I was just reading the other day about my (12thouse) EROS square AMOR (8th house) aspect, which one site described as something similar. Oh my.

"Square or opposition between Eros and Amor: Sex is considered as separate from love. One may keep a mistress for great sex and a wife for serving the ideal of "pure" love in a committed relationship. Or this could be someone who loves being social, however keeps the love object at home."
http://www.mysticmarguerite.com/WebDocs/Texts/LoveAsteroids.html

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posted October 11, 2012 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for luisbunuel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, went a bit off-topic there.

The descriptions about the cancer moon in 4th are almost right!

I do like certain styles of houses, and I feel queasy when I see one in a style I don't like. I feel very attached to the house I lived in as a child although it is no longer mine. I recently saw a photograph of it, it's been converted into an office!
That was a sad day when I came across that photo, too sad to cry!

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posted October 11, 2012 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for luisbunuel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tell me, have you ever met anyone you think seemed vaguely familiar? You got on with them and you kept trying to think where you'd seen them before...

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posted October 11, 2012 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not bothered by the detour. That was funny!

Yes, I assumed an attachment to your childhood home would be in the mix. I had almost mentioned that. I also drive by my childhood homes, when I am in their vicinity.

Meeting others we've known before is certainly part and parcel of tuning into the past, as I see it. ...Since I've acknowledged that my "soul" is larger than this lifetime, I certainly have come to see most significant people in my life as someone I've known before. I guess this is different from the kind of instant sense of familiarity you are speaking of, upon meeting someone. ...Well, I do encounter people who I feel very comfortable with on certain levels, who I assume I've developed a friendship with before. ...I currently have an older friend who I hit it off with immediately. There was an immediate caring rapport between us. It seems clear we've been good friends before.

I can usually tune in to the type of relationship we likely had. E.g, I feel two of my current brothers have been my brothers before, and they also were my sons another time. Most romantic relationships I can see as something continuing from the past. Though some I don't know.

...I think you have potential to sense more in time, Luis. Do you have any specific examples right now? Can you describe what about them you sense familiarity with?

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posted October 11, 2012 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for luisbunuel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unfortunately, I feel that my significant relationships are just accidents; ties arising in this lifetime to be severed as soon as possible.

I just don't have your sensitivity when it comes to this sort of stuff!

Okay, on occasion, twice perhaps, I have met people (older than me, always) I seem to really get on with, but then I don't know if it's because of a past life connection or because we just happened to 'click'.


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