posted October 05, 2012 03:58 PM            

If Jesus was a blue-eyed blond, then not only was it never mentioned but if he really looked so unusual then the Romans wouldn't have needed Judas to betray Jesus with a kiss, would he? The Romans would've just seized the exotic blond (even if his head was covered his eyes would still be distinctive).

I'm familiar with the thought that the Nazarene were Scandinavian but the archeology doesn't back that (granted there's some question on whether Nazareth even existed). And as there's no credible eyewitness testimony to Jesus outside the Bible (Romans mentioned him, but I don't think for over a hundred years after his death which meant he was pure hearsay by then) I don't believe that account of Pontius Pilate (which strikes me as too bureaucratic, even for Rome) is genuine. The whole thing just smacks of British Israelism (and Christian Identity) propaganda to me (though it's possible they just ran with it rather than inventing it, especially as Europe found it useful to make Jesus white in order to convince their settlers seizing new territories were superior to the natives they were plundering & worse, as if Jesus wanted them to invade & conquer).

And I consider it (and that gingers are descendents of Cain) a potentially dangerous lie.

posted October 05, 2012 11:30 PM            

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Originally posted by PhoenixFire:
Lol my spouse is blue eyed and blonde and we mate just fine =)

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The RH negative is a blood disorder. Long story short it creates problems with pregnancy and often requires medical intervention to bring a baby to term and then keep the infant alive after. The vast majority of people who have this defect are of European descent (though it is rare) and it does seem likely tied to us (just as other races have their own genetic disorders more likely to affect them), especially as the most non-white people to have it are African Americans (where a lot of white genes got mixed in). That said any human in the world regardless or race or origin can potentially inherit this blood trait.

I've heard different stories about how this defect is actually a sign of divinity and some claim it shows their purity rather than a defect. Even Oral Roberts University (or someone connected to it) has promoted such ideas. Some say that Jesus had it (and passed it onto his children, etc), and I vaguely recall reading how those who had it (or didn't) had angelic ancestors as well. As this view advocates that spiritual & material worlds are in conflict then their bloodlines war with each other even at the cellular level and thus the fetuses and infants of RH negative mothers are attacked as a disease by the body as the less than pure infant is attacked by the spiritually elevated genes as unclean.

posted October 07, 2012 03:46 AM            

The first baby is usually safe, but upon exposure to following pregnancies the antibodies will attack the new baby. An injection of Rhogame is administered to the mother to prevent this immune response during pregnancy, after childbirth, and following miscarriage/abortion.

Thankfully all three of my children were born healthy & free of RH effects. I have experienced several miscarriages and wonder if these were related to the RH factor.

Pixie, I agree it is very sad for some people to use blood or any other biological factor to oppress others. Very silly and ignorant to belittle people over things one is born with. I dislike racist ideas very much and try my best to be an open minded person.

I was very surprised to learn my blood type during my first pregnancy, had never heard of the RH factor and my siblings are all RH positive. Coming from a family w mixed ethnicities & nationalities, meant embracing all my ancestral roots. I'm very thankful my parents never elevated the European roots over the Indiginous as many people do in colonial countries.

My parents native land has much racism from the colonial days, and sadly many people remain w the negative prejudices of placing European features & descent above indigenous ones. I'm glad not everyone thinks/feels that way, but wish more people would evolve and embrace the many colors and roots which form the culture.

Anyways, I got off on a tangent and derailed from the original discussion. Back to the RH theme, I've read interesting ideas regarding this blood type and extraterrestrials. Things such as the Christ connection & reptilian etc.

posted October 07, 2012 09:19 PM            

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Originally posted by PhoenixFire:
interesting to ponder if ancient aliens did come here and mix with us. Or if humans have more than one humanoid ancestor to explain why this blood is missing the rhesus monkey gene. Or if its all one big giant mutation, and if so why haven't we evolved enough to correct it? I'd really love to read more about the whole topic.

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Right now all bets are that an alien species, even a relatively humanoid one, could not naturally mate with us, especially as it's impossible with us to mate with other simians despite being nearly identical to them at the genetic level. I'm sure that with technology currently beyond our ken it could be done, but that would be a very deliberate act that would beg the question of why.

Now from another dimension is a complete unknown...especially if the varying species were once the same species that came to be separated in other dimensions, though technically that wouldn't be an alien species but rather a divergent (and even then it seems extremely unlikely, though we have no idea what the rules are when it comes to different universes and traveling between them).
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But in case you'd find it interesting I'll share that one of my fics I'm working on (and based on a lot of paranormal research, not that I intend this as anything other than scifi) involves that the humans and grey aliens are both terrestrial and genetically created (humans from a simian, greys adapted from dolphin DNA for complicated reasons and to fulfill functions a human wasn't capable of) by a draconian race that predates both (and became nearly extinct in the ice ages and after epic bio-warfare between themselves) who have access to powers and technology that their 2 slave races could not then comprehend. These lizard species were the inspiration for ancient myths of draconic and serpentine gods that were overthrown (in reality by humans and greys working together before the 2 species turned on each other).

There's a very complicated history involved but a Saurian (shapeshifting lizards, though their powers are more limited as they have to use technology that either cloaks them in illusion or radically alters their genes and they much prefer working through human puppets they've enslaved using their tech, including tech completely alien to humans and seen as "magic" by humans who witness it) concerned with both the leaps in technological and occult lore began to try to work through desperate Germans which led to WW2 and then Project Paperclip where Nazi scientists (a few who'd worked with Saurian technology) managed to knock out a Grey saucer (who'd retreated mostly to the moon and Mars but still depend on Earth for their survival and are incapable of leaving the solar system) which created the Roswell incident.

Alarmed, the Greys began a new project in the 50s (creating the UFO flap years of the time) which consisted of taking human DNA and modifying it to be more like Greys (but can still pass for human--at least those that turn out right can) while also being semi-telepathic (that makes them easier for Greys to communicate with, use as sensors, and manipulate) to infiltrate society. With their superior and even telepathic abilities they're slowly gaining position in the media, governments, and major businesses for their own agenda that they believe the survival of their species is dependent on (and also want to use humans against the Saurians, and the Saurians in turn are less than pleased with the new Grey project).

posted October 07, 2012 09:44 PM            

She takes great pride in being descended from Swedes. Blond is a common hair color on my mom's side of the family (and blue a common eye color, and those of us with ice blue eyes such as myself have amazing night vision though our eyes are also more sensitive to flashes, florescent, and we can find it hard to drive at night because headlights from other cars nearly blind us), but she has the rare platinum blonde.