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Topic: Strange question - any reason why someone rejects the contact with angels?
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Enneline
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posted May 15, 2014 11:08 AM
  
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Originally posted by Sibyl:
Now, fairies... That's another cup of tea! 
How do you perceive fairies? I mean, are they small, do they have wings? IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
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posted May 15, 2014 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by Enneline:
I don't feel offended; i was just wondering why you make so many allegations 
and I thought it's funny because I once questioned and cursed angels  Anyhow, I am no native speaker. That could be the reason for any miscommunications. BUT nevertheless I appreciate different opinions
Yes, could be miscommunications.
Like your statement above:
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I thought it's funny because I once questioned and cursed angels
Now I am too lol..
And additionally in my view;
a dwarf is a regular human who was born with a genetic variation;
but to you a dwarf is something else?
A supernatural being, not a human?
Clashing of concepts lol.
It really does not matter and glad you are not offended.
No worry.
Interesting topic nevertheless.
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Enneline
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posted May 15, 2014 11:29 AM
Haha No, i meant this kind of creature: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-b79ydjdih5w/Uu0a8ZV2PQI/AAAAAAAAopo/fazacUqBP60/s1600/the_bashful_dwarf_by_ifoxspirit-d5sfia1.png
They are NO humans. They are as tall as 10-year old children and definitely no humans. Actually they act too fast for your human eyes. You must be very "quick" too see them.
And according to my taste, they are quite ugly  Sorry, no offense dwarfs IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted May 15, 2014 03:12 PM
Dwarves might also be Earth Elementals (trolls, elves, gnomes, leprechauns, and the like).IP: Logged |
Enneline
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posted May 15, 2014 03:26 PM
Yes, that's what I meant, Randall. They live in the forests and some of them obviously love watching humans (esp. girls) when they pee behind a tree... IP: Logged |
Sibyl
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posted May 15, 2014 03:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Enneline:
How do you perceive fairies? I mean, are they small, do they have wings?
Well, I think there are many different species of fairies Spirit-wise, some are darker (goblins etc) while some are mostly light (elves and some other kinds). Some are tiny, some larger, and some much like humans. I think most of them are quite mischievous and deceitful though. I don't agree with all of this, but think it is a helpful introduction; http://mairingrauld.webs.com/faeries.htm
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Enneline
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posted May 16, 2014 01:31 AM
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Originally posted by Sibyl:
Well, I think there are many different species of fairies Spirit-wise, some are darker (goblins etc) while some are mostly light (elves and some other kinds). Some are tiny, some larger, and some much like humans. I think most of them are quite mischievous and deceitful though. I don't agree with all of this, but think it is a helpful introduction; http://mairingrauld.webs.com/faeries.htm
Thank you for the link. Actually I don't know what species I saw (I just call them "dwarfs"). It was the only species I ever saw but I would love to see all of the species listed in the link you provided. Yeah, I've already heard that they are supposedly mischievous and deceitful but I am not afraid; I just would roll with them on the floor IP: Logged |
Leorpio
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posted May 16, 2014 02:17 AM
I've had my own experiences with angels and I have to say I don't agree with Lex, even though I value her opinion. I think those that do not understand them fear them, which is often the case with people who fear what they do not understand. Angels truly working with/for God/source could be considered angels as they are have very high vibrations. Those that are not cannot be considered angels in my opinion and would be akin to "fallen" angels, or demons. These entities are conscious like all souls and must make the choice between self and selflessness. I have been guided by Angels my whole life and have frequently had angelic messages (so to say) relayed to me. I once woke up one night late at night and went downstairs to find that the water filter I had left out with the lid on was open. I was alone that night and had filled it up before I went to sleep. I come downstairs to find the lid was off and the filter was out, but out in a specific way, as if whatever did this wanted me to look at the filter.
And the thing was I felt a presence there with me, but could not see it. Now, my fear based thinking of not knowing what this was immediately caused me to think that it was some malevolent entity that poisoned the water. But low and behold, on the table was a painting that wasn't there before. It had been moved from another place in the house. What was the painting of? A group of Angels. Suddenly then I wasn't that afraid anymore and went to bed still shocked but not scared. Then the thought of what could the water filter mean entered my head. Then the idea of purification came into my head, and of course led back to me. Now the Angel's message that I needed purifying and cleansing from all of the crap that I had stuck inside of me didn't quite click. But a few weeks later I broke down and let out all of the emotions I had held back for years in a flood of tears. I had multiple existential crises and awakenings and am on the path I am today because of that occurrence. Whereas before I was a depressed atheist who had no purpose in life and who was anxious, selfish, and delusional, now I am a happier more spiritually inclined being who has begun his spiritual evolution and am awakening to the new age coming about. I now know that I have much karma from the past I need solved. All in the span of 6 months. I learned about Astrology, starseeds, Extraterrestrials, Atlantis, past lives, karma, the occult, source/god, everything other-wordly and in my opinion, important, because of this one occurence. I'm sorry Lex but the Angels are very much good beings in my life and have been with me for the whole of it. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted May 16, 2014 06:15 AM
He can follow his own instinct, why does he need to communicate with them ? And you know how these angels are, they intend to make the person follow their advices, control him/her in a subtle way and take away his/her individuality .IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted May 16, 2014 01:44 PM
I like Supernatural's take on angels. Go Winchesters!IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
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posted May 16, 2014 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by Leorpio:
I've had my own experiences with angels and I have to say I don't agree with Lex, even though I value her opinion.
Thank you. We can only each go by our own experiences. quote:
Originally posted by Leorpio:
I think those that do not understand them fear them, which is often the case with people who fear what they do not understand.
No fear here. All I had was love for them until I found out what the "pretty" ones really are about.
Give me an honest ugly but good entity rather than the lying beautiful evil ones.
The ones of the Abrahamic religions are pure evil in my opinion.
quote:
Originally posted by Leorpio:
Angels truly working with/for God/source could be considered angels as they are have very high vibrations. Those that are not cannot be considered angels in my opinion and would be akin to "fallen" angels, or demons.
I do not believe in fallen angels or demons. In fact any entities rejecting the Abrahamic god is a good being and those who are in league with the Abrahamic god, the evil Demurge,
are the evil ones.
It is strange to me that despite the horrors committed by and or ordered by angels and LORD god in the Bible, that people totally ignore that evil. Most are not even aware of the evil there. http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm
It is there for anyone to see;
I did not make it up.
So yeah; any being working for that "god" is pure evil in my opinion.
Sorry if my view offends you. quote:
Originally posted by Leorpio:
These entities are conscious like all souls and must make the choice between self and selflessness. I have been guided by Angels my whole life and have frequently had angelic messages (so to say) relayed to me.I once woke up one night late at night and went downstairs to find that the water filter I had left out with the lid on was open. I was alone that night and had filled it up before I went to sleep. I come downstairs to find the lid was off and the filter was out, but out in a specific way, as if whatever did this wanted me to look at the filter.
And the thing was I felt a presence there with me, but could not see it. Now, my fear based thinking of not knowing what this was immediately caused me to think that it was some malevolent entity that poisoned the water. But low and behold, on the table was a painting that wasn't there before. It had been moved from another place in the house. What was the painting of? A group of Angels. Suddenly then I wasn't that afraid anymore and went to bed still shocked but not scared. Then the thought of what could the water filter mean entered my head. Then the idea of purification came into my head, and of course led back to me. Now the Angel's message that I needed purifying and cleansing from all of the crap that I had stuck inside of me didn't quite click. But a few weeks later I broke down and let out all of the emotions I had held back for years in a flood of tears. I had multiple existential crises and awakenings and am on the path I am today because of that occurrence.
I could interpret your experience from a different point of view and would still say it was good but was not of the evil Abrahamic god and his minions/angels.
Glad it worked out well for you.
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Originally posted by Leorpio:
Whereas before I was a depressed atheist who had no purpose in life and who was anxious, selfish, and delusional, now I am a happier more spiritually inclined being who has begun his spiritual evolution and am awakening to the new age coming about. I now know that I have much karma from the past I need solved. All in the span of 6 months. I learned about Astrology, starseeds, Extraterrestrials, Atlantis, past lives, karma, the occult, source/god, everything other-wordly and in my opinion, important, because of this one occurence.
I have had and still do have many good experiences and for the most part the main evil came from angelics and not other beings. I do not feel a lack of spiritually in the least.
Freed from the evil I was raised with and free to see things without a mind clouded/blinded by dogmatic beliefs;
http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm
So much evil in the so called good book.
The beautiful loving angels had me fooled for some 45 years!!!!!!
shudder 
I am glad I discovered their deceptions before it was too late.
I feel I am blessed.
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Originally posted by Leorpio:
I'm sorry Lex but the Angels are very much good beings in my life and have been with me for the whole of it.[/B]
I am sad for you. 
 I hope you never regret your path.
To each their own.
I am totally against Christian/Abrahamic deific things.
It is not fear, but anger at their deceptiveness and brainwashing of folks. http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm PS.
I have my point of view and personal experiences and you have yours.
Seriously, no disrespect intended.
LOL.....I feel you have been deceived and you most likely feel that I have been. Stalemate.
We both just have to ignore or accept that we do not share the same views and that is that.  IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
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posted May 16, 2014 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by Enneline:
Yes, that's what I meant, Randall. They live in the forests and some of them obviously love watching humans (esp. girls) when they pee behind a tree...
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Lexxigramer
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posted May 16, 2014 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
He can follow his own instinct, why does he need to communicate with them ? And you know how these angels are, they intend to make the person follow their advices, control him/her in a subtle way and take away his/her individuality .
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Leorpio
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posted May 17, 2014 04:02 AM
I don't follow the abrahamic religions either and I do believe that whatever God is described there is not the one that everything stems from. Though I noticed you used a gnostic term describing him as the demiurge. I can't be sure to be completely honest if what it was that helped me was an angel but it was positive in nature and did not seek to fool me or use me in any way. The picture of the angels spoke volumes to me though and the asteroid Angel is conjunct my sun so I'm going to assume its angels, and good ones at that, that watch over me.IP: Logged |
Enneline
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posted May 17, 2014 08:22 AM
Maybe there are different kinds of angels? IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted May 17, 2014 11:13 AM
Yes, there are. There are different kinds of everything. Good, bad, angel, devil, it does not matter, don’t let them make you their puppet.IP: Logged |
Enneline
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posted May 17, 2014 11:25 AM
I have never heard before that angels want anyone to do anything IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
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posted May 17, 2014 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by Leorpio:
I don't follow the abrahamic religions either and I do believe that whatever God is described there is not the one that everything stems from. Though I noticed you used a gnostic term describing him as the demiurge. I can't be sure to be completely honest if what it was that helped me was an angel but it was positive in nature and did not seek to fool me or use me in any way. The picture of the angels spoke volumes to me though and the asteroid Angel is conjunct my sun so I'm going to assume its angels, and good ones at that, that watch over me.
I find it best to never assume.
Seems to me the entities you encountered are good;
so in my opinion they were not angels or demons or any human loaded with faux/misleading inferences labels;
but simply just good protective beings;
the species/genre not needed.IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
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posted May 17, 2014 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by Enneline:
Maybe there are different kinds of angels?
I think the problem is the label;
angel or demon.
These labels are loaded with ideas and concepts and are rarely correct labels for the entity encountered.
Drop the labels and see exactly what you are actually in contact with!
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Lexxigramer
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posted May 17, 2014 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Yes, there are. There are different kinds of everything. Good, bad, angel, devil, it does not matter, don’t let them make you their puppet.
In my opinion trust nothing, and interrogate always interrogate and find out what things really are or avoid them completely.
Blind trust is unwise at best.IP: Logged |
Cancer/Scorpio729
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posted May 18, 2014 11:52 PM
What are everyone's opinions on guides and teachers?IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted May 19, 2014 01:07 AM
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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
In my opinion trust nothing, and interrogate always interrogate and find out what things really are or avoid them completely.
Blind trust is unwise at best.
Depends upon the type of individual. Some can trust, some can’t, both are neither good, nor bad in my opinion. It’s just a path they’ve chosen. I personally need to trust. IP: Logged |
Enneline
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posted May 19, 2014 04:42 AM
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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
[b]Yes, there are. There are different kinds of everything. Good, bad, angel, devil, it does not matter, don’t let them make you their puppet.
In my opinion trust nothing, and interrogate always interrogate and find out what things really are or avoid them completely.
Blind trust is unwise at best.[/B][/QUOTE] Absolutely! I’ve seen people „channeling“ advices, the future, etc. from alleged angels, spiritual guides, teachers, etc. and all of them were over the moon…but in fact those alleged angels, spiritual guides and spiritual teachers were nothing but fu***ng souls, ghosts and other creatures that no one needs to meet  They make fun of human beings or want their energy/craft. That’s it. No spiritual guidance
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anonymidarkness
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posted May 19, 2014 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by Enneline:
Absolutely!I’ve seen people „channeling“ advices, the future, etc. from alleged angels, spiritual guides, teachers, etc. and all of them were over the moon…but in fact those alleged angels, spiritual guides and spiritual teachers were nothing but fu***ng souls, ghosts and other creatures that no one needs to meet They make fun of human beings or want their energy/craft. That’s it. No spiritual guidance
lol, they may have tuned in to wrong channels. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted May 19, 2014 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by Cancer/Scorpio729:
What are everyone's opinions on guides and teachers?
Do you mean someone like Gurdjieff, Crowley etc. ? Most need them, some don't, those people are very rare IMO, as most people are trapped inside their belief systems. "Ordinary" people can make you stumble across your path too and I'd consider them as teachers too. IP: Logged |
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