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KarmicMoon
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posted August 18, 2014 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you know if one is attacking you or worse if you are unwittingly one?

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PixieJane
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posted August 18, 2014 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my case they can only work if they get their emotional hooks into me somehow, for example needing me to "do something" or trying to get me to feel sorry for them. I suppose if I were more fragile then such "formalities" wouldn't be needed. In any case, if every time you're with someone you come out of it feeling a bit muddled or tired and you feel an instinctive desire to avoid them (but not in a rude way) in the future then I'd say that was some kind of psychic vampire (people to be avoided in any case). I've noticed that they virtually never have long term friends, they're always on the prowl for someone new.

There's an extreme kind that I was able to sense back when I was a kid...don't know if I'd sense them now. They were looking for kids to have sex with (typically child prostitutes) and they usually didn't care about gender or even age the way most johns will, only that the person was "fresh meat" (but if they came to the streets with their spirits already broken then they weren't interested). Only when they were still fresh and innocent were they attracted to them at all. And there was a "dead look" in their eyes that I could see right away, and when I was seriously creeped out by it was when I could FEEL them before I saw them (like knowing the car driving up behind us was one of THEM and seeing I was right). I could feel "a loss" (sometimes it was even visible) by kids who turned tricks with them, even if nothing major happened, and I assume it's similar to the psychic vampires that find other hooks to get into people, this gets them vulnerable, shames them, and makes them weaker so they can "leech" off of it, and I had the feeling if a kid was thoroughly drained by them and didn't commit suicide then they'd grow up to be just like them, because it really was a sort of vampirism rather than perversion (that is perversion was the means to drain someone, but not the point in of itself as it would be for a standard pervert). Interesting enough, quite a few wore sunglasses, some even at night.


As for how could I tell if I was one? Well I'd question it if I felt terrible unless someone healthy was around me (that is someone who also felt bad wasn't good company whereas many others like to commiserate), which is to say if I had a feeling like a swimmer in the middle of lake looking for someone to latch onto...and the feeling never quite went away. This would be especially true if others avoided me (not just shunned, but like changed direction when they noticed me as they don't have a "good reason" to avoid me and can't explain what the problem was). Then I'd ask myself if I was.

Note, I've heard people say they were psychic vampires with some sort of pride but from what I can tell they just share in the energy while only aware of receiving. That is, I don't consider them actual psychic vampires, they're more just "attuned to the flow around them." (And being a vampire sounds cool to them.)

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KarmicMoon
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posted August 19, 2014 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks PixieJane,

I guess I am not one, whew! I have been struggling for a while though with a sense of weakness that sometimes just comes over me. If I do have one I can't figure out who it is. I guess I need to be more attentive.

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Randall
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posted August 20, 2014 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you are one, you will know it.

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Randall
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posted August 21, 2014 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A lady who is one wrote a book about it and gave lectures at a convention I go to. She says that she always asks for permission to feed.

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Lei_Kuei
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posted August 21, 2014 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^Lol..!

Michelle Belanger!

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Randall
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posted August 22, 2014 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeppers! Met her at DragonCon.

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posted August 23, 2014 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She looks like Lt. Yar on STTNG.

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Lei_Kuei
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posted August 23, 2014 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow you are right, she looks quite abit like her!

Off-topic I guess but I used to adore her on STNG and was devastated when she was killed by... I suppose a sort of "Alien Psychic-Vampire"

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Armus

Wtf, are we back on topic?

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Randall
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posted August 25, 2014 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, in person, she really looks just like her.

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12th_House_Gal
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posted November 03, 2014 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12th_House_Gal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Karmic Mooooon!!! I need to write you back on my other thread - I have been round the "world" and back again on LL! lol - I think this might be my favorite area of LL

Now for the question.....

I would say that your relationship really feels like a one way street. For some reason, you just have a strange "inkling" about that person. Perhaps they come across just so nice in person, but after the dust settles and you aren't around them you feel "violated". There is nothing tangible, nothing you can really pinpoint that makes you say "yes this person took advantage of me", but it's more of an intuitive feeling, you just feel like they're up to no good. However, energy speaks to us through intuition, we just don't quite understand how to listen sometimes. Energy speaks through feeling, so when we get these feelings we should trust them.

I have encountered 3 in my life. One is my step-mother so I have to take her in doses. She's very blantant about it, but she needs a higher soul to feed off of all the time. This is about spiritual nutrition. Like she hooks on a person and that more "enlightened" person is now someone she sources for higher perspectives constantly. For a time she really tried to do this with me and I just had to flat out ignore her. I found myself getting stuck on hour long phone calls where I was continually trying to break down my knowledge and experience with just, I dont know, the universe. She was soaking it up, but she was not taking initiative. Hm, how do I say it. It's quite like a drug addict. They use you for a "fix". Like someone who comes back for more dope, they do not realize the potential inside of themselves, they don't need another person for that "energy fix", they just need to work on themselves. I think most energetic vampires are HIGHLY in denial.

I also think if you are asking that you are one, you probably aren't. I also think if you have any higher levels of intuition, you will sense if you are starting to do that to someone. We all have the capability to do this to another person, because I was an energy vampire from my Mom. My mom has Neptune/Deja conj Asc, so she's like Sookie Stackhouse to energy vampires! She has no clue she's like this either.

The first big energy vampire I encountered, I quite literally had to say "leave me alone, do not reach out to me again, do not contact me again". I am not the kind of person to do this, ever. Something about me she just wanted to "draw from" over and over and over and over again. I do think EV's mirror issues in ourselves, for a true grounded/solid individual with a strong energy body will sense someone wanting to draw energy. This is me now, I can tell if someone wants to "feed" and I shut it down.

I also find that energy boundaries come into play. I think it is less that they are "taking" energy from us (in like this literal sense), but we are just loosing our charge when we are around them. I think of it like a battery. You leave your flashlight on, the battery runs out faster. EV's require INTENSE amounts of energy from a person. Most more developed souls are programmed with the desire to help humankind, so when we encounter someone we always process this with "how can I see the highest in them" and even further "how can i help them see the highest in themselves"? It's part of our complex soul mission after all right? This person is a mirror of us, so we need to remember that, when we feel we are giving "too much" or are feeling violated, this is a process we are subconsciously allowing. God it has taken me so much heartbreak to even get to the point where I understand that concept. I think this is something you have to learn by just going through the motions with an EV.

The second one I encountered was much more subtle. Again though, I always had this feeling of being violated after being around her. I would leave and think, "She didn't really do anything for me to feel this way, so why do I feel this way?". I would cut her off, then feel bad and come back again. Logic told me she did nothing wrong that could be tangibly tested to form my "theory". Intuition told me she was up to no good. I kept forgetting, again, that energy speaks to us through the subtle body, and we have to trust THAT when we are speaking of energy matters. This last time around she became so clingy and desperate with me it was just TOO MUCH!! So I said "that's it" and can't even respond to her texts. It's sad, because I know she is a good person, she just can't handle herself around me.

In my experience with all three of these people, they wanted to talk to me, be around me, or keep up constant contact all the time. They also had begun to put into place several things that would guilt me into their presence. Like, doing REALLY nice things for me that were just odd. SHOWERING me with compliments, one said "I am literally OBSESSED with you!!". I also have found that two of the three (the non-relatives) told me they loved me at a SUPER not appropriate time for a new friend. Like within a month of being their friend they kept telling me this constantly. That is always my first clue (may not be for other people), because I always feel like they are desperately trying to hold on to what I've got, "their fix". This is someone who is drawing something from you, something they NEED to build within themselves. In a healthy relationship, there is a balance. Each party is inspiring constructive growth in the other. In an EV relationship, it is not balanced. The EV is recieving spiritual nutrition from the Donor. If you keep being their "energy dope", they wont ever be able to do this for themselves. Unforunately, after trying, I can't form positive relationships with EV's of my past. I just can't, it's too weird.

This is just as much about us as it is about hte other person, because you cannot have your energy taken from you unless on some level you are not creating energy boundaries. A strong aura, a strong magnetic field, etc. will stop this situation before it starts. YOU will know and have a keen sense for it happening before it happens. It's taken all 3 of these people for me to finally get it!!

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mareaire
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posted November 05, 2014 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mareaire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i wonder if there are any astrological markers for vampirism?

i have dealt with one who crept into my life 8 years ago. she ended up moving in with me and i thought i had created proper boundaries, but she was oblivious to them, and being the mutable 12th houser that i am, i can often blur boundaries (getting waaaay better at it now). Anyways, she latched herself so hard onto to me that she is still in my life and just now i am making the final choices to finally exonerate myself from her.

she is what i would call a hidden vampire. it's not obvious to the world. they operate by taking your very personal energy...like 12th House Gal's step mom. They end up close to you before you realize they are taking from you.
there are some though, that are clearly vampy from miles away. they operate on a lower level, take your unpersonal and mundane energy. i don't find these people as threatening. it's usually easy to avoid or deter them, with a healthy aura and proper boundaries as was mentioned. i work at job where any one off the street can come and talk to me, so i get them there. i can't leave the conversation and unless i'm threatened i can't ask them to leave. it's not a big deal, but i imagine they could do damage to someone if allowed.

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posted November 06, 2014 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How can empaths protect them of Vampires??

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posted January 15, 2015 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
White Light visualization. Shields on!

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posted January 16, 2015 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It works.

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