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Charmaine
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posted March 16, 2015 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charmaine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This was a topic we touched on a couple of years ago.

Some believe birth marks are clues to injuries and deseased and could have caused possible death in a previous life..like an imprint of sorts.

Does anyone remember or have a story to share about a birth mark?
There are people who suffer from phantom pains which can't be diagnosed by doctors and may pertain to past live injuries.

Anyone experience this?

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Charmaine
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posted April 02, 2015 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charmaine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Vajra
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posted April 02, 2015 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Vajra
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posted April 02, 2015 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 03, 2015 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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For what it's worth, my aunt once described a vivid past-life memory that included having the throat cut from behind by an assassin. In the present life, virtually all her illnesses have been centered on that area, it seems to be her body's weakest point.

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posted April 04, 2015 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It would be interesting to study this.

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Charmaine
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posted April 08, 2015 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charmaine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Vajra. Will read the link.

Sorry to hear about you aunt. Do you think remembering these past injuries will help heal the current illnesses experienced?

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posted April 08, 2015 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Charmaine
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posted July 02, 2015 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charmaine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/347860-are-birthmarks-connected-to-violent-death-in-past-life/

*looks down at own birth mark and ponders..*

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posted July 02, 2015 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I first learned of this it made me wonder if it was a complex case of "stigmata" (by that I mean mind over body that can actually cause wounds and diseases essentially through sheer belief rather than the literal form--I can only work with the vocabulary I have since our dictionary doesn't include words for such metaphysical concepts), or if...

Damn, don't have the words again. Stupid meat bag language.

A guy is shot in the head and in the next incarnation there's a mark there. What does this show? (I mean what is happening that this would occur, not "it shows he was shot" but HOW does it happen at all?)

The easiest thought is that souls carry that energy from life but apparently have a difficult (impossible?) time to deal with it (at least all of it) on a metaphysical plane so it's baggage stuck to them that then gets dumped into a fetus which creates the birthmarks and such (which begs the question of why would such energy only be fully resolved in the material plane?). In a sense the soul is scarred as is the body and thus the scar transfers to next body ("as above, so below").

Or it could even be like the cylons in the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica in which cylons killed were typically reabsorbed mentally (that is their memories and identities were broadcast out into a new body of the same model essentially allowing for resurrection through mind transfers to clones) yet death was still traumatic, even when it offered an escape, and that could lead them to hate those who had killed them before. In this case dying is very traumatic to the soul (which seems to dispute many NDEs) and so when it reincarnates a bit of that trauma manifests as a "stigmata on the fetus" (which becomes a birthmark or what have you).

Another possibility is that many bodies are already linked though this would be paradoxical to our human minds as it would work outside our simple linear modes of thinking. And thus a traumatic event in one life "vibrates" to the next fetus.

In any case, I'd wonder what the limitations are. We are a very violent species and Mother Nature is an efficient killer as well and all else. And miscarriage is very common. I wonder, if past life trauma can leave physical marks that scar a person (sometimes for life) then could this "incarnating stigmata" be bad enough damage that it causes a miscarriage?

It would make sense to me given that people have been known to come down with severe symptoms, blindness, and death without medical reason just simply by believing it would happen (more on that here and also some extreme examples). If that same process is at work in reincarnation then yes.

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posted July 14, 2015 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charmaine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.healpastlives.com/future/rule/ruremark.htm

These explanations could result with you driving yourself crazy trying to figure out how you died if it's a matter of healing past life issues. :/

It's still very fascinating. I'm determined to find out how I got mine since the location of my birthmark is currently where I have being experiencing problems..medically.

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posted July 14, 2015 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 15, 2015 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SnowWhite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of my sons has a birth mark which we call "angel's kiss" on his forehead that was supposed to fade but going on 10 years now it hasn't (though now I no longer notice it). He also has a "stork bite" on the back of his neck (as does my husband's grandson born a month earlier).

He's never ever said anything about past lives, though he does have a pretty good grasp of the slipperiness of time so....

Very interesting subject though.

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posted July 16, 2015 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charmaine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are cases of young children remembering past lives. The memories are so fresh that they are confused, experience night terrors in cases where there were traumatic deaths or they don't accept their current parents because they remember their former families.

Many of them eventually find closure and don't dwell on those past lives.

Some are born back into the same families and avoid making the same mistakes they made before.


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posted July 16, 2015 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great thread.

Vajra I loved your long post above.

The story that got me to really, sincerely believe in reincarnation is the case of James Huston reincarnating as James Leininger. Even the astrological coincidences are phenomenal (stellium opposing stellium in synastry; same exact mean NN.) Short Video

However, there are no phantom pains or birth marks in that case.

I went through a phase in my teens where I was extremely sensitive to anything touching my neck. It made no sense, and I got wondering if I had been hanged in a past life. Perhaps it was foreshadowing my brother having cancer in his neck, a few years later. But who knows.

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posted July 16, 2015 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 17, 2015 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Great thread.

Vajra I loved your long post above.

The story that got me to really, sincerely believe in reincarnation is the case of James Huston reincarnating as James Leininger. Even the astrological coincidences are phenomenal (stellium opposing stellium in synastry; same exact mean NN.) Short Video

However, there are no phantom pains or birth marks in that case.

I went through a phase in my teens where I was extremely sensitive to anything touching my neck. It made no sense, and I got wondering if I had been hanged in a past life. Perhaps it was foreshadowing my brother having cancer in his neck, a few years later. But who knows.


I had the same sensitivity about my neck, but I was strangled when I was a child.

I have had a huge fear of driving, in case I hurt someone. I started to think about getting my license, a few years ago, and then we got into an accident. Nope, not going to happen.

I've also never wanted to go on a cruise. Not a fan of being surrounded by deep water. I almost drowned when I was eleven, but this fear came before that.

One regression I tried on my own - one of the few that I got anything from, ten years ago - showed me as a dancer, living in a little one-room flat in England. I had wavy blonde hair, that came to just above my shoulders, and an old-fashioned bath tub in the same room. I had a string of lights, like white christmas lights, strung up over part of the room. I was apparently drowned in the bath tub, by a man I was having an affair with. The christmas lights throw me off, but I do like to have them up - I have some strung over the fireplace.

I've also had a fear of the dark - when I'm indoors (outside, I'm fine). One proper regression, had me as a boy in some sort of tribe, where darkness meant death, if you weren't careful. I guess we would be attacked at night. The regression didn't cure me, though; I still don't like to sleep in complete darkness.

My sister has a birth mark on her lower body.

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posted July 17, 2015 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Vajra!

I've always learned a lot from you.

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Too bad Stevenson wasn't into astrology apparently, but he did record some birthdates (without birth time though) so I guess if one combed through his case collection thoroughly one could come up with more cases to study.

I guess he had to preserve whatever he could, of his reputation.(?) Maybe in the future someone will continue his research, expanding into astrology. It could help validate both astrology and reincarnation.

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Myself, I do have the birthdate (without time) of the man who came before me, and there are also rather interesting parallels between both charts.

I love that you know who came before you.

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It seems I basically inherited most of the aspect structure, many aspects are either exactly the same or very similar (same planets connected by opposition instead of square, sextile instead of trine etc.) even though the sign placements are mostly different.

Fascinating. That's pretty much how I imagined it would be. Though astrology never ceases to amaze me, because it seems so unlikely that a whole set of aspects would repeat, showing a relationship between two events. Yet it happens so often.

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I think it makes sense to think that if the chart shows one's sum total of karma that came to fruition in this life, it would be similar in structure as the chart of an immediate predecessor…

Right.

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Anyway, in that case, there are also rather striking numerological anchors to connect the two lifelines. I would love to give you more detail if you're interested but it's a tad too private to post here, so if you want, feel free to mail me instead.

Thanks! I will email you.

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About the sensitivity around the neck you describe: Both my mom and my daughter actually have this same problem.

All so interesting. I feel badly for them, though ~ I remember having that level of sensitivity and it was unpleasant. There were so many times in a day where my neck was touched or could be touched (like in class, sitting in front of someone) and so often, this whole morbid train of thought would roll in, about why I was anxious about my neck. It would create an impulse to clam up my whole body with my hands over my neck. I was overall much more sensitive back then, and more affected by death, as those were the years surrounding my mother's death, and both grandmothers' deaths.

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Sorry to hear about your brother, I hope he made it and is alive and well …?

Thanks - yes he is alive and well!

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posted July 17, 2015 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I had the same sensitivity about my neck, but I was strangled when I was a child.

On purpose? I understand if you don't want to talk about it, but that is too sad for words.

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I have had a huge fear of driving, in case I hurt someone.

I know a few people like this. I don't see why it's expected that everyone ought to learn to drive. Not everyone likes the same things.

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I've also never wanted to go on a cruise. Not a fan of being surrounded by deep water. I almost drowned when I was eleven, but this fear came before that.

Ugh...must be a horrible memory. Near-drowning memories have scarred a lot of people.

Your regressions are interesting but horrifying....my god, to be murdered. 'Seems like perhaps you already had the fear of darkness in that past life with all the lights in the room?

I tried one on my own and thought I saw felt shoes with pointy tips, 'thought I was a shopkeeper in the Netherlands, but I'm not even sure if anyone ever wore felt shoes there. The whole thing only felt genuine for a second. Not worth mentioning except this is all I've got.

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