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confusedaseff
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posted April 07, 2015 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for confusedaseff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So i've always been heavy interested in anything occult and that's always been because it's been deeply entrenched in my life from day one. but since i've witnessed a whole lot of the negative side of the occult you'd think id be scared off but i can't shake this interest. i always come back to it even when I'm warned away by my mum

i do want to get over this fear that i might end up dealing with something/one evil. i feel like it's a barrier that is keeping me from being able to fully accept everything that's happening around me and keeping me from learning about it.. to the point where i feel like if i pick up a book on it i'm going get haunted.. but i still want to learn and to embrace this side of me.

if anyone has any advice on how to get over this fear and paranoia i would really appreciate it.

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posted April 07, 2015 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for confusedaseff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 07, 2015 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 07, 2015 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by confusedaseff:
So i've always been heavy interested in anything occult and that's always been because it's been deeply entrenched in my life from day one. but since i've witnessed a whole lot of the negative side of the occult you'd think id be scared off but i can't shake this interest. i always come back to it even when I'm warned away by my mum

i do want to get over this fear that i might end up dealing with something/one evil. i feel like it's a barrier that is keeping me from being able to fully accept everything that's happening around me and keeping me from learning about it.. to the point where i feel like if i pick up a book on it i'm going get haunted.. but i still want to learn and to embrace this side of me.

if anyone has any advice on how to get over this fear and paranoia i would really appreciate it.


How old are you?
I noticed you mention your mum.

When you feel fear and paranoia over psi/occult matters;
it means back away from it, at least for now. It means it is not what you should be doing and or perhaps simply the wrong time.
Listen to your instincts/vibes; then follow them. This fear and paranoia is a warning, a self protection mechanism telling you to leave psi/occult things alone for now, or longer.
Good luck.

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posted April 07, 2015 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please tell us a bit about yourself at the
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posted April 07, 2015 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for confusedaseff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by confusedaseff:
So i've always been heavy interested in anything occult and that's always been because it's been deeply entrenched in my life from day one. but since i've witnessed a whole lot of the negative side of the occult you'd think id be scared off but i can't shake this interest. i always come back to it even when I'm warned away by my mum

i do want to get over this fear that i might end up dealing with something/one evil. i feel like it's a barrier that is keeping me from being able to fully accept everything that's happening around me and keeping me from learning about it.. to the point where i feel like if i pick up a book on it i'm going get haunted.. but i still want to learn and to embrace this side of me.

if anyone has any advice on how to get over this fear and paranoia i would really appreciate it.


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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
How old are you?
I noticed you mention your mum.

When you feel fear and paranoia over psi/occult matters;
it means back away from it, at least for now. It means it is not what you should be doing and or perhaps simply the wrong time.
Listen to your instincts/vibes; then follow them. This fear and paranoia is a warning, a self protection mechanism telling you to leave psi/occult things alone for now, or longer.
Good luck.


i'm in my twenties. my mum is major in tuned though. she use to be able to see the dead just walking about - therefore couldn't go into hospitals or funerals because she'd be shaking in fear, always seems to be winning minor lotteries. chats with dead relatives in her sleep and they bring warnings. she mentioned before that she spoke to the relatives in her dreams and told them not to visit me because ill get scared. and many more including potential for mediumship. over time she got scared of it and then it backed off so not so much now. so sometimes i'm wondering if she's projecting that fear on to me.

i at times.. more perceptive than she is. sort of like the less for her the more for me. been happening over time. or she's not telling me as much

my fear is mainly due to personal experiences with witnessing a possession.. possession and mediumship is very deep in my childhood due to my religious upbringing - taoist. coming in to other not so nice spirits when i was young. i'm just worried that i'll come into contact with them and they'll follow me around (happened to a cousin of mine) .. i've had 'energy' follow me around before. not pleasant. and just the fear of that kind of unknown. :S

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posted April 10, 2015 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for confusedaseff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nothing?

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posted April 11, 2015 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by confusedaseff:
i'm in my twenties. my mum is major in tuned though. she use to be able to see the dead just walking about - therefore couldn't go into hospitals or funerals because she'd be shaking in fear, always seems to be winning minor lotteries. chats with dead relatives in her sleep and they bring warnings. she mentioned before that she spoke to the relatives in her dreams and told them not to visit me because ill get scared. and many more including potential for mediumship. over time she got scared of it and then it backed off so not so much now. so sometimes i'm wondering if she's projecting that fear on to me.

i at times.. more perceptive than she is. sort of like the less for her the more for me. been happening over time. or she's not telling me as much

my fear is mainly due to personal experiences with witnessing a possession.. possession and mediumship is very deep in my childhood due to my religious upbringing - taoist. coming in to other not so nice spirits when i was young. i'm just worried that i'll come into contact with them and they'll follow me around (happened to a cousin of mine) .. i've had 'energy' follow me around before. not pleasant. and just the fear of that kind of unknown. :S


I am somewhat bewildered by the fear your mother and you have. I have been deeply involved with all you speak of for all my life to date. It does not cause fear for me because such experiences have been and still are so very normal to me. I can remember being as young as 1 and a half years old having my first psi contacts.
Perhaps no fear too because I am not religious and just accept that the people not in body are just stuck and need help moving on.
Have you ever seen the movie;
"The 5th. Sense"?
I have not been able to understand the fear you speak of because psi experiences/contacts are so normal and common for me.
I wish I could help but again, the only advice I have for you is that as long as you fear, you are not ready to engage in psi matters.
And yes, I feel your mother is very possibly projecting her own personal fear onto you.


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posted April 11, 2015 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by confusedaseff:
nothing?
It cake days or longer at times to get any replies.
Be patient please.

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posted April 12, 2015 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for confusedaseff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
I am somewhat bewildered by the fear your mother and you have. I have been deeply involved with all you speak of for all my life to date. It does not cause fear for me because such experiences have been and still are so very normal to me. I can remember being as young as 1 and a half years old having my first psi contacts.
Perhaps no fear too because I am not religious and just accept that the people not in body are just stuck and need help moving on.
Have you ever seen the movie;
"The 5th. Sense"?
I have not been able to understand the fear you speak of because psi experiences/contacts are so normal and common for me.
I wish I could help but again, the only advice I have for you is that [b]as long as you fear, you are not ready to engage in psi matters.

And yes, I feel your mother is very possibly projecting her own personal fear onto you.


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funny enough i can relate to that sense of normalcy. the feeling of being sensing and getting away from bad energies - i'm just going to call it that cause it's a broader term'; that i can feel are either evil or trying to hurt me is normal ex. ill head towards a room and then just 'oh right not this one' and just take a u-turn and carry on with my day or accidentally finding myself in the middle of an exorcism (location wise) and being like 'oh ok.. ill go to the toilet later then.' :P

ill definitely stay away while i'm still weary but i think i'm just trying to find a way to perhaps shield myself from any bad energies - a way to protect myself.

my mother has always been a source of that protection. when i'm alone and i sense anything then she comes into the room or just within the vicinity it's like she chases it all away. whatever bad that was there just runs away from her and she's even had to, in the past, fight one away from me.

so now i'm older she's not around as much, i'm making my own way in life and i'm looking for a way to protect myself so that i'm not afraid anymore. so any suggestions on that front would be grand.

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posted April 12, 2015 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for confusedaseff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
I am somewhat bewildered by the fear your mother and you have. I have been deeply involved with all you speak of for all my life to date. It does not cause fear for me because such experiences have been and still are so very normal to me. I can remember being as young as 1 and a half years old having my first psi contacts.
Perhaps no fear too because I am not religious and just accept that the people not in body are just stuck and need help moving on.
Have you ever seen the movie;
"The 5th. Sense"?

you mean the 6th sense? yeah i've watched it but no i don't get that thank god. i don't think i'd mind seeing but if it's like that movie where they have the wounds and all horror film like than no thank you. my mum did/sometimes still does though

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posted April 13, 2015 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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you mean the 6th sense? yeah i've watched it but no i don't get that thank god. i don't think i'd mind seeing but if it's like that movie where they have the wounds and all horror film like than no thank you. my mum did/sometimes still does though
Folks have said things like "wow! That kid in The Sixth Sense is you when you were a kid! Yeah, complete with the nasty images and all. It just seems so normal to me. Oddly though I am not into horror movies with rare exceptions. I hate blood and all in movies when the only purpose is for shock value and not much more if anything else.

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posted April 13, 2015 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for confusedaseff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by confusedaseff:
[b] you mean the 6th sense? yeah i've watched it but no i don't get that thank god. i don't think i'd mind seeing but if it's like that movie where they have the wounds and all horror film like than no thank you. my mum did/sometimes still does though

Folks have said things like "wow! That kid in The Sixth Sense is you when you were a kid! Yeah, complete with the nasty images and all. It just seems so normal to me. Oddly though I am not into horror movies with rare exceptions. I hate blood and all in movies when the only purpose is for shock value and not much more if anything else.

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really? my mum said that for her that they appear so normal that sometimes she doesn't realise their dead until they disappear in front of her or if it's a relative that she knows shouldn't be walking around :P i was always afraid of horror movies though so maybe my mum was sugar coating it so i'd fall asleep :P

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posted April 14, 2015 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted April 14, 2015 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Been busy with doctor and all today so bear with me;
I will return after I rest and then reply more.

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posted April 15, 2015 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for confusedaseff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Been busy with doctor and all today so bear with me;
I will return after I rest and then reply more.

i hope you're well and your health is okay! take your time! ill still be here when you get back lol

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posted April 22, 2015 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The way to get over fear is to embrace Love, and more importantly, Self-Love, for by Loving yourself you create a space for only Love to pour out of you and fear is simply the absence of Love. Love is unconditional and has no conditions, so if you find that you can't love yourself or someone else without wanting something from them, then its NOT Love

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posted April 23, 2015 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for confusedaseff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leorpio:
The way to get over fear is to embrace Love, and more importantly, Self-Love, for by Loving yourself you create a space for only Love to pour out of you and fear is simply the absence of Love. Love is unconditional and has no conditions, so if you find that you can't love yourself or someone else without wanting something from them, then its NOT Love

how would i go about applying this to my fear though. and love - i do. believe me i love myself :P I'm worried that if i love myself any more than i do already it'll turn to narcissism haha

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posted April 24, 2015 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was wondering if you practise any visualisations, such as forming a protective ring around you at the start of the day, or asking an angel (such as the Archangel Michael) to stand guard over you?

These things are generally recommended. Basically, you decree that you will be protected from all harmful energies, and visualise drawing a ring of light around you as you do so. If you prefer, visualise that Michael is drawing the ring with his sword, as you ask for his protection.

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posted April 24, 2015 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linda used the following:

I am completely in control of the fate of my physical body. Nothing can harm me without my consent, and I do not choose to give my consent. I choose to live.

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posted April 25, 2015 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Was wondering if you practise any visualisations, such as forming a protective ring around you at the start of the day, or asking an angel (such as the Archangel Michael) to stand guard over you?

These things are generally recommended. Basically, you decree that you will be protected from all harmful energies, and visualise drawing a ring of light around you as you do so. If you prefer, visualise that Michael is drawing the ring with his sword, as you ask for his protection.


This is good advice, fear is a negative emotion, the more you focus on it, the more it affects you.

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posted April 25, 2015 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You could try making a list of what scares you, and ideas for counteracting each fear. Taking baby steps, and working up to bigger ones. Try The Anxiety and Phobia Workbook.

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posted April 26, 2015 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fear snowballs fast.

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I think the key lies in changing the mindset. I know it can be done in an instant - have done it myself. Basically, stop thinking about fears. Instead focus on feelings of safety, protection, surrounded by angelic beings, light, etc. Believe that you can only be touched by good and that there is nothing to fear. By doing so, you make yourself invulnerable to all that may be harmful. Your beliefs do the trick, as it were. Visualisation or rituals are useful as they help to change your beliefs.

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
I think the key lies in changing the mindset. I know it can be done in an instant - have done it myself. Basically, stop thinking about fears. Instead focus on feelings of safety, protection, surrounded by angelic beings, light, etc. Believe that you can only be touched by good and that there is nothing to fear. By doing so, you make yourself invulnerable to all that may be harmful. Your beliefs do the trick, as it were. Visualisation or rituals are useful as they help to change your beliefs.

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